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 Polonius wrote:

 azazel the cat wrote:
Ah, yes. Books written by PUAs (Pick Up Artists, for those unfamiliar). I remain convinced that PUAs demonstrate a previously-unrecognized form of hyper-extroverted autism.

I think it has more to do with the goal. In theory, a guy wants to meet a woman who he can have a relationship with, based on matching personalities and shared values and goals. A lot of guys dont' really see the women they want to hook up with as people, but as targets. I'd not go so far as to call it complete mysogeny, but rather focused mysogeny. These are guys that just want to "bang chicks." That's a fine and noble goal, but only some of us get the ability to do that with charm and confidence. They want to game the system.

the point isn't how they try to break the game, but that they only see it as a game at all.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with casual sex. But when I have it, I still want it to be because the girl thinks I'm awesome (or awesome enough), not because I figured out some sort of hack.

Good post. Hits the nail on its head. Pick-Up artists tend to have rankings / scores. Women are rated on a scale of 1-10 based on their looks, everything below a 6 is considered to be worthless and does not yield any points, 7s are the minimum to hit on. The higher the women's rating, the higher the score. It's mandatory to make a picture of her after having sex. Videos yield bonus points. Hair color also aftect the score. There are a lot of rules. They call it "The Game". It's...uncomfortable to read about or into.

Er...you seem to know a lot about this....

 Frazzled wrote:
Er...you seem to know a lot about this....

To be fair, it's always fascinating to study sociopaths in action.

There's a lot of "Why the hell would he... wait, that WORKED?!"

yep.

 Frazzled wrote:
Er...you seem to know a lot about this....

I have published several studies in communication psychology and frequently give lectures on the matter. Pick-Up techniques are a small sub-dimension of said issue. I have taken part in several (professional) Pick-Up seminars to get behind it, get an image on what it's about, their schemes etc. I am not interested in the matter because of using the techniques myself...my fiancee might disagree here I am interested in it because it relates to one of my main research areas and because it is frightening to see that even we, the most intelligent race on the planet, having developed so far in such a short time, being so sophisticated right now, we still fall prone to our very ancestor's basic instincts.

And to be fair, men are even easier. It's a joke. Getting men laid is so ridiculously easy. Show men a nice pair of boobies and you almost got them cashed in. Basic instincts.

Sigvatr wrote:And to be fair, men are even easier. It's a joke. Getting men laid is so ridiculously easy. Show men a nice pair of boobies and you almost got them cashed in. Basic instincts.

I only turned down sex once, and she was reeeeeeeeally fatnasty. I did however play around with her boobs.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Er...you seem to know a lot about this....

I have published several studies in communication psychology and frequently give lectures on the matter. Pick-Up techniques are a small sub-dimension of said issue. I have taken part in several (professional) Pick-Up seminars to get behind it, get an image on what it's about, their schemes etc. I am not interested in the matter because of using the techniques myself...my fiancee might disagree here I am interested in it because it relates to one of my main research areas and because it is frightening to see that even we, the most intelligent race on the planet, having developed so far in such a short time, being so sophisticated right now, we still fall prone to our very ancestor's basic instincts.

And to be fair, men are even easier. It's a joke. Getting men laid is so ridiculously easy. Show men a nice pair of boobies and you almost got them cashed in. Basic instincts.

So true. Well, that, and alcohol. I've seen so many of my friends get with girls that I would otherwise puke in the direction of if I were to see without clothes...

 Frazzled wrote:
Am I the only sick of the kickstarter nonsense?

No.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Am I the only sick of the kickstarter nonsense?

No.

Nope. But I still fall for half of them anyways. (SECRET WEAPON TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY)

I have backed 3 kick starters, and I'm done for now.

As for this one, The Kronk doesn't need tips. The ladies need tips on how to resist The Kronk's animal magnetism.

*Giggity*

 Enigwolf wrote:


So true. Well, that, and alcohol. I've seen so many of my friends get with girls that I would otherwise puke in the direction of if I were to see without clothes...

Heh. I've seen that before...

"I did what with her? Why did you let me do that? What do you mean, 'because it was funny'?"

kronk wrote:I have backed 3 kick starters, and I'm done for now.

As for this one, The Kronk doesn't need tips. The ladies need tips on how to resist The Kronk's animal magnetism.

*Giggity*

*bonk with nerfhammer*

daedalus wrote:

 Enigwolf wrote:


So true. Well, that, and alcohol. I've seen so many of my friends get with girls that I would otherwise puke in the direction of if I were to see without clothes...

Heh. I've seen that before...

"I did what with her? Why did you let me do that? What do you mean, 'because it was funny'?"

And there we have the best reason for not getting overwhelmingly drunk. It's one of the few perks of being the designated driver, actually.

The term is beer goggles, gentlemen.

 kronk wrote:
I have backed 3 kick starters, and I'm done for now.

As for this one, The Kronk doesn't need tips. The ladies need tips on how to resist The Kronk's animal magnetism.

*Giggity*

The occasional guy too... >_>


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 kronk wrote:
The term is beer goggles, gentlemen.

I have never been party to the beer goggle effect, though I am sure one of my nighttime romps was due to a girl's own goggles . I'm fairly certain she moved to another country

Hm, I wouldn't necessarily put it into the box of "beer goggles", since the term merely implies looks. I don't know actually. Would you classify stupid, base behavior (i.e. any girl = sex) to be "beer goggles" or simply just being too drunk?

Beer goggles is all encompassing, and it affects many day to day functions.

Vision, ability to control your VOLUME, sense of humor, judgement*, and the ability to play golf, pool, and bowling (all positively to a point, then not so much).

*judgement also includes ebay purchases and online posting.

 kronk wrote:
I have backed 3 kick starters, and I'm done for now.

As for this one, The Kronk doesn't need tips. The ladies need tips on how to resist The Kronk's animal magnetism.

*Giggity*

"Yea I'd tap that."
-Ellen on Kronk.


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I think the moral here is to remind GC and her friends on appropriate ball breaking maneuvers if they encounter such.

On the positive I have an all clear to get GC mace when she turns 15 (and pepper spray too!).

 kronk wrote:
I have backed 3 kick starters, and I'm done for now.

As for this one, The Kronk doesn't need tips. The ladies need tips on how to resist The Kronk's animal magnetism.

*Giggity*

That narcissistic atitude is exactly the right attitude to get laid.

ACHIEVED!! $9000 - Bonus chapter on JUGGLING MULTIPLE RELATIONSHIPS.

ACHIEVED!! $15,000 - FANFIC TORTURE. If $15,000 is raised, I will film a dramatic reading of my WWF/Sailor Moon fanfic and upload it to Youtube for all to see. (Please don't make me do this EDIT: Goddamn it, guys. See you on Youtube.)

i decided I'd single out my favorite bonuses. And by favorite I mean worst. I thought the whole point of this book was to not BE in a relationship?

The easiest way to get laid is to be in a relationship, no matter how tenously defined or maintained.

 Polonius wrote:
The easiest way to get laid is to be in a relationship, no matter how tenously defined or maintained.

Unless of course you get married and have kids. Then that shizz dries up quick.

 Lint wrote:

 Polonius wrote:
The easiest way to get laid is to be in a relationship, no matter how tenously defined or maintained.

Unless of course you get married and have kids. Then that shizz dries up quick.

It's still easier for a married person to maintain a friends with benefits type situation than keep picking up new partners. Especially as discretion is key.

 Polonius wrote:

 Lint wrote:

 Polonius wrote:
The easiest way to get laid is to be in a relationship, no matter how tenously defined or maintained.

Unless of course you get married and have kids. Then that shizz dries up quick.

It's still easier for a married person to maintain a friends with benefits type situation than keep picking up new partners. Especially as discretion is key.

Eh?

 Enigwolf wrote:

 Polonius wrote:

 Lint wrote:

 Polonius wrote:
The easiest way to get laid is to be in a relationship, no matter how tenously defined or maintained.

Unless of course you get married and have kids. Then that shizz dries up quick.

It's still easier for a married person to maintain a friends with benefits type situation than keep picking up new partners. Especially as discretion is key.

Eh?

I think what he's saying is: "People like drama."

From my own personal experience, the longer the relationship = the less amount of sex. YMMV.
I also found out when I was younger and single-r that sex came much more easily the more casually I treated it.

I guess im some kind of ubermensch since i turn sex down more often than i actually have sex...

I guess we also believe you.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I guess im some kind of ubermensch since i turn sex down more often than i actually have sex...

Using this.

I lol'd.

 MrDwhitey wrote:
I guess we also believe you.

Technically, he'd only ever have to turn it down once if he never had sex. We don't know the numbers.

Although I wouldn't say it makes you an "ubermensch" regardless.

So... which one is it?


I've taken the red pill...


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 Polonius wrote:
The easiest way to get laid is to be in a relationship, no matter how tenously defined or maintained.

Listen to this man...

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Unless of course you get married and have kids. Then that shizz dries up quick.

Not necessarily... the key is to maintain standards, accountability and open communication.

I don't even enjoy sex but I think the wedding ring thing would be entertaining to try out and run some numbers on.