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In my escalation league when we get to 2k we're allowed allies. At the moment we're just about to start 1500 so I have a little bit of time. What I'm looking for is what would make a good ally for Necrons. I currently own GK, IG, a smattering of CSM and a fair dose of Orks and Tau. I saw an 1850 list that won at Adepticon that consisted of Necrons with a Draigo wing. My only concern with that list was the lack of dealing with LRs and their ilk. And this was pre-Tau so not sure if 10 palies and Draigo can tip the balance against 2+ riptides and a kabillion missiles.

My thought was to use Orks to make up for my lack of CC and act as several distraction units (bikes maybe or two battlewagons with boyz and nobz) running straight at the enemy turn one. There are, of course, a lot of Tau players so my cron air will need something - anything to get their attention. Nothing gets someones attention like two battlewagons and 30 screaming boyz running into your lines! At least that would be my hope, anyway.

My standard Necron list at 1750:

1 Destroyer Lord w/ Semp Weave, Mindshackles
1 Chaos Sorcerer w/ Force Axe, Votlw


5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
10 Chaos Cultists w/ flamer

5 Canoptek Wraiths w/ Whipcoil
5 Canoptek Wraiths
5 Canoptek Wraiths
1 Helldrake w/ Baleflamer

1 Annihilation Barge
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Annihilation Barge

You can easely build this up to 1850 or 2K, with wraith you dont need other hth...

 necron99 wrote:
I saw an 1850 list that won at Adepticon that consisted of Necrons with a Draigo wing. My only concern with that list was the lack of dealing with LRs and their ilk. And this was pre-Tau so not sure if 10 palies and Draigo can tip the balance against 2+ riptides and a kabillion missiles.

While the list that won Adepticon was solid, it should be noted that the Adepticon missions were skewed by an over-representation of relic and kill point missions. The player who won recognized this and built his army specifically to gain an edge in these scenarios. Grey Knights still make excellent allies for Necrons, though taking Draigowing may not necessarily be the way to go. And, as you said, this build is very vulnerable to iontides, which are extremely popular.

 Valek wrote:
My standard Necron list at 1750:

1 Destroyer Lord w/ Semp Weave, Mindshackles
1 Chaos Sorcerer w/ Force Axe, Votlw


5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
5 Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe
10 Chaos Cultists w/ flamer

5 Canoptek Wraiths w/ Whipcoil
5 Canoptek Wraiths
5 Canoptek Wraiths
1 Helldrake w/ Baleflamer

1 Annihilation Barge
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Annihilation Barge

You can easely build this up to 1850 or 2K, with wraith you dont need other hth...

I've given up on wraiths as they drop like flies to mass shooting. Even a full unit of fire warriors would whittle them down pretty quickly - especially the way I manage to roll 1's and 2's. It just seems to me that GW has too significantly shifted the meta as far away as possible from CC to shooting. CronAir is a waste of time due to the ever popular Tau (and other reasons I think, too). Anni Barges are still a pretty rock solid choice. So while I still want to run a smaller version of CronAir (I've played up to 7 flyers which failed miserably against Tau) I need something to hit the other guy hard with. A drop pod SW ally seems like a good choice too as at least half of the pods will show up on turn 1. And JOTWW is pretty deadly to riptides.

I think my new boiler plate Necron list is looking to be:

HQ: Overlord - naked
Troops: 5x warriors w/ NS
Troops: 5x warriors w/ NS
Troops: 5x warriors w/ NS
Heavy: Anni Barge
Heavy: Anni Barge
Heavy: Anni Barge
.
.
.
Fill in with allies for the rest and possibly give the overlord some love.

I run Coteaz with a SS and a Pally unit as my GK allies. I also have a Driagowing I can run too but don't tend to pull it out often.

My base list is like yours, I have also dropped my wraiths and replaced them with 2 units of 3 heavy destoryers. I have an ADL to keep them behind to help with them being focused. Depending on the points and how I feel I will add a stalker with TL HGC as well. I use Cotaez to keep pesty DS units away from my bf... the destoryers/stalker/AB to bang bang.. and the NS like normal. It has worked "so far" but I have yet to test it vs a horde army. I have concerns with the build at that point.

I normally DS the pallies unless I see one of those gross LOC CC fast strike Daemon armies.

Drop one of those Warrior Squads + their crescent.

use the 165 points to get a Lord with Semp + Res Orb, and put a Semp + ResOrb + WS on your Overlord. now the warriors should survive a little longer with the Lords tanking shots.

As for allies, why not go for Vanilla Marines?

MotF
10 Man LasPlas PodSquad
2x Dreads in pods

2 dreads drop turn one, kill something
Tac + MotF land turn to, so you now have a Lascannon looking at juicey Rear armour, and a squad with 2 Plasma guns + a Plas pistol if your sarge has one, and a 2+/4++ to tank a canny bit