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The reason I ask is they ignore terrain for the purpose of movement distance, they just test for immobilized. Would they have 3d6 worst 2 charge or 2d6 change all the time. Obviously they still suffer initiative penalties on their riders.

Why do Chariot riders suffer an Initiative penalty? The chariot unit, not the rider, is declaring a charge. The Chariot does not have an Initiative value, and the rider is not moving through terrain.

That is an interesting way of looking at it. I figured if they don't have frag grenades they suffer the penalty. The chariot itself does do worst 2 of 3d6 based on summary sheet i found in the back of the brb.

Yup, the rules for assaulting with Chariots do say that it's the Chariot, not the rider, that declares the charge.

So no charging bonuses for the passenger then.

 Tarrasq wrote:
So no charging bonuses for the passenger then.

yet another interesting twist.

 Tarrasq wrote:
So no charging bonuses for the passenger then.

An interesting point. And as far as I can see, that would indeed be the case.

"If at least one model in the charging unit moved through difficult terrain...all of the unit's models must attack at Initiative step 1" (p22). Did a model in the unit charge through terrain? Yes. Is the rider one of the "unit's models"? Ummmm....the BRB doesn't really talk about riders.... I read all three entries for chariot units in my Daemon book, and that also does not mention riders.

The rider (ie the embarked model) cannot be part of the chariot's unit.

rigeld2 wrote:
The rider (ie the embarked model) cannot be part of the chariot's unit.

That makes an interesting problem with a mounted unit entering combat without declaring a charge, however being able to attack..

It's not a problem at all, since it is specifically allowed by the Chariot rules.