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Under Blessings it says it can affect the psyker but can a Psyker target himself?

It says it can affect the psyker so if he used the power on a guy in his unit and the benefit was for the unit he would also get it.

Plus for some blessings it says it targets the psyker. Specifically saying that you can target the psyker in that abilities leading me to believe that you cannot normal target yourself.

Or am I just reading way to much into this?

Yes, the psyker can target himself. When it says the power targets the psyker specifically, it just means that it can ONLY target himself.

So a sorcerer with Endurance can cast it on himself or a unit in range, while he can only target himself with Warp Speed.

Could you say where in the rulebook it says you can target yourself? Thank you

 Discodontron wrote:
Could you say where in the rulebook it says you can target yourself? Thank you

Page 67 states you target a unit, the Psyker is a unit, unless he is with a unit then you target the unit as a whole, which would include the Psyker.

Unless it is a power like Iron Arm that specifically targets the Psyker as per that particular Psychic power's rules. (There are a few others as well auch as Warp Speed Etc...).

I do not see it stating anywhere on that page that it targets a unit. All I see is that if it requires a target choose it now. Which would make you go to the type of power and then to blessing. And in blessing it says it targets a friendly unit. and a friend unit is not itself.

"If the psychic power requires a target, you must nominate it at this point." 67

"Unless otherwise stated, the Psyker must have line of sight to his target. This means that a Psyker embarked on a Transport can only target himself, his vehicle or another unit embarked on the same vehicle as the Psyker,"(Emphasis Mine)

The underscore literally tells you a situation where the Psyker can target himself

Of course a model is friendly to himself...

So you are claiming you arent friendly to yourself?

It is a unit, it is by definition friendly....

Being a friendly unit and friendly to yourself is different.
And you are not a friendly unit to yourself, you are not a foe neither you are yourself. You can not be a friendly person to yourself unless you have a couple different personalities.
and for targeting yourself in transports its for the Blessing(ie. Warpspeed) that specifically say that you can target yourself.

 Discodontron wrote:
Being a friendly unit and friendly to yourself is different.

No, really it is not different.

 Discodontron wrote:
and for targeting yourself in transports its for the Blessing(ie. Warpspeed) that specifically say that you can target yourself.

No it is not.

The wording is: "Unless otherwise stated, the Psyker must have line of sight to his target. This means that a Psyker embarked on a Transport can only target himself, his vehicle or another unit embarked on the same vehicle as the Psyker,"

This is for all Psychic powers as per the rules on Page 67.

 Discodontron wrote:
Being a friendly unit and friendly to yourself is different.

Not in the 40k rules. When playing 40k, you have to use their terminology, not bring in your own.

If you look at the back of the rulebook, where it lists the several Psychic disciplines, each power has a RANGE. Some blessings say, "Range: Self." There's no other way to interpret this than, "The Psyker targets himself."

If models are friendly with themselves, it wold be illegal to fire a flamer from a vehicle as the templet would fall across a "friendly" model (i.e., itself). If models are not friendly with themselves, all vehicles with flamers, including those fired from fire points, work fine. As such, we can only assume that a Psyker may only target himself if given specific permission to do so within the rules of the power being used.

SJ

That would be true except for the actual rules on page 52.

A Template weapon never hits the model firing it.

Since your premise is incorrect your assumption cannot be correct.

Rigeld2, actually read my post this time, before automatically arguing with it.

SJ

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
Rigeld2, actually read my post this time, before automatically arguing with it.

SJ

I think he's responding to the baseless assumptions rather than just saying "No, you're just wrong.".
Can you give a page number for the restriction on a psyker not being able to target his unit or himself with blessings that say "friendly models"?

 liturgies of blood wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
Rigeld2, actually read my post this time, before automatically arguing with it.

SJ

I think he's responding to the baseless assumptions rather than just saying "No, you're just wrong.".
Can you give a page number for the restriction on a psyker not being able to target his unit or himself with blessings that say "friendly models"?

hmm, wait.

Nope there isn't one.

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
Rigeld2, actually read my post this time, before automatically arguing with it.

SJ

I read your post - you were trying to be a devils advocate. I get that - but your entire post was incorrect.

It is also proven incorrect through other rulings, such as a Sanguinary priest giving themselves FNP.

Basically, a model is always a friendly unit to himself and he does indeed have LoS to himself.

Are you implying you can see the back of your own head!?!

MUTANT! HERETIC!

deathmagiks wrote:
Are you implying you can see the back of your own head!?!

MUTANT! HERETIC!

Well considering models can always draw Line of Sight through models in their own unit, and the firing model is definitely in their own unit...