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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 20:49:15
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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As I've seen it argued both ways and there's nothing yet in any GW FAQ on the subject, how many Artifacts can a Chaos HQ take?
The text under the Chaos Artifacts in the wargear list reads;
"A model can replace one weapon with one of the following. Only one of each Chaos Artifact may be taken per army."
Now, to me and my friend, we take this to mean that a chaos character can only ever take 1 item from the list, even if they have multiple weapons.
However, I've heard some other chaos players arguing that you can replace each weapon a model has once with one artifact, so for example, giving a Chaos Lord both the Burning Brand + Black Mace.
How do the rest of you guys play this?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 20:54:48
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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If you replaced two weapons, did you replace ONE weapon?
The only time you can take more than one is if you take the ones that do not require a swap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0046/08/24 20:57:23
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds
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I've always read it as you can take an artifact for each weapon swapped.
If your dude has a pistol and CCW you would:
~Swap pistol for Burning Brand
~Swap CCW for Black Mace
If he only has one weapon (looking at you, DP), then you only get one artifact weapon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 20:59:33
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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"A model can replace one weapon" says it all.
One weapon does not = two or more weapons...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 21:45:41
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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As above. If you swap 2 weapons have you complied with the rule saying you may swap one? No, as you swapped 2
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 21:55:16
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Lieutenant General
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Extreaminatus wrote:I've always read it as you can take an artifact for each weapon swapped.
If your dude has a pistol and CCW you would:
~Swap pistol for Burning Brand
~Swap CCW for Black Mace
If he only has one weapon (looking at you, DP), then you only get one artifact weapon.
Which would require it to say something like "... A model can replace each weapon with one of the following..."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 22:32:56
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Extreaminatus wrote:I've always read it as you can take an artifact for each weapon swapped.
If your dude has a pistol and CCW you would:
~Swap pistol for Burning Brand
~Swap CCW for Black Mace
If he only has one weapon (looking at you, DP), then you only get one artifact weapon.
I second this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 23:22:10
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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DeathReaper wrote:"A model can replace one weapon" says it all.
One weapon does not = two or more weapons...
I agree with DR.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/06 13:12:47
Subject: Re:Chaos Marine Artifacts
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Several unnecessary posts deleted.
If you cannot post in a helpful and polite manner then it's best you don't post at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/06 18:22:25
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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"Can replace one weapon with one of the following"." Yep, sounds like you can only have 1 to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/08 15:31:34
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds
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Nah, you guys are right, it's ONE weapon. This is what I get for posting without my codex handy.
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Go forth and amplify, here come the NOISE MARINES!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/08 16:32:46
Subject: Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thanks reds8n. Your vigilance is greatly appreciated !!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/09 19:52:18
Subject: Re:Chaos Marine Artifacts
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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Thanks for the help guys!
Still not too sure how to convince the couple of holdouts that it's ONE and only ONE weapon you exchange, as their argument is that there is nothing in the text stating you can only make the exchange once.
Thus their argument is that the way it's currently worded is ambiguous and so if have two or more weapons, you exchange each weapon once for a different artifact. It's honestly like trying to wrestle with a brick wall!
Wonder if GW will ever FAQ it?
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