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Where do I see where I can take them cause in the toolbox I can.
Example as shown below,

[code] Ariadna | 16 models
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Combat Group #1
Kaplan Eng A (27|0)
112 Doctor (12|0)
TankHunter Autocannon (40|1.5)
Scarface (69|1.5)
Cordelia
Veteran Kazak HMG Lt (61|1)
Line Kazak Rifle (9|0)
Line Kazak Rifle (9|0)
Line Kazak Rifle (9|0)
Volunteer Chain (6|0)
Combat Group #2
Line Kazak Rifle (9|0)
Line Kazak Rifle (9|0)
Line Kazak Rifle (9|0)
Line Kazak Rifle (9|0)
Irmandinho Chain (10|0)
Yuan Yuan AP CCW (11|0)
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299/300 points | 4/6 swc
open with Aleph Toolbox : http://goo.gl/23u63

You are 'allowed' to take Scarface+Cordelia according to that program because you selected the Ariadna army list and then selected "Load Mercs". In a tournament setting, you're not allowed to take Mercs like that.

Scarface+Cordelia can only legitimately be taken as part of the Qapu Khalqi sectorial of Haqqislam where they're a selectable choice.

 Absolutionis wrote:
You are 'allowed' to take Scarface+Cordelia according to that program because you selected the Ariadna army list and then selected "Load Mercs". In a tournament setting, you're not allowed to take Mercs like that.

Scarface+Cordelia can only legitimately be taken as part of the Qapu Khalqi sectorial of Haqqislam where they're a selectable choice.

Not entirely true. In a friendly game, if you inform your opponent, he usually shouldn't have too many problems with you fielding a merc, even a TAG. The OP shouldn't be scared away if he likes a certain Merc model.

As said by Absolutionis, however, In official ITS scenarios, you cannot use Mercs.

The main problem is people tend to use ITS restrictions for every game.

Mercs are a part if the game, and are intended to be used in friendly games with opponents permission.

^ +1 to this.

The "tournament, always" mindset that crept into gaming circles is an abomination unto gaming.

By default, Mercs are legal and legit for any army to use, in non-ITS games (which are only a tournament where you will get ITS ranking points. If it is a tournament that ISN'T ITS, then this might well NOT hold water).

Awesome thank you very much. That is what I thought.
I agree you can't always have the power gamer mind set and or power gaming mind set.

Besides, some of the Mercs are just fething cool. I intend to get Senior Deadpool soon, because he basically is Infinity Deadpool. And McMorroughs model is just badass.

Senor Massacre and McMurrough are a fantastic duo in a Corregidor force.

Just sayin'.

According to "Narrative play" and "fluff reasoning" Scarface and the Durze shock troops cannot be part of any force that contains a Highlander model. This restriction is purely fluff based. Basically in the Ariadna Commercial Conflict those guys were total A-holes to the Highlanders (Indiscriminate killing etc)

Other than in ITS tournaments/scenarios etc there is no restriction to what Merc you can take with which force. You can even do a Merc Company and take a Jotum been tempted to do this because I love the model.

Having said that I also read some where that you cannot take Yuan Yuan with Yu Jing, not sure if this is a real restriction or a fluff based one.

Nerm86 wrote:
According to "Narrative play" and "fluff reasoning" Scarface and the Durze shock troops cannot be part of any force that contains a Highlander model. This restriction is purely fluff based. Basically in the Ariadna Commercial Conflict those guys were total A-holes to the Highlanders (Indiscriminate killing etc)

Not just to the Highlanders...but the Highlanders are really good at holding grudges.

Other than in ITS tournaments/scenarios etc there is no restriction to what Merc you can take with which force. You can even do a Merc Company and take a Jotum been tempted to do this because I love the model.

The "Merc Company" is a really bad idea though. It is unfocused and can lead to frustration as you try to fit everything you like in there at a reduced AVA.
If you just want to do a 'Merc' force I highly suggest the QK sectorial for Haqqislam at this point in time.

Having said that I also read some where that you cannot take Yuan Yuan with Yu Jing, not sure if this is a real restriction or a fluff based one.

Both.
Yuan-Yuan are basically scummy pirates who wander the space lanes. They can only not be fielded with Tohaa, Combined Army, and Yu Jing.

Yeah I have started a QK force, I really like the models for the Kaplans and Druze

Heh. Go kaplans.
After them, the druze aren't worth the points.

The KTS guys are so much better for the points.




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Nerm86 wrote:
According to "Narrative play" and "fluff reasoning" Scarface and the Durze shock troops cannot be part of any force that contains a Highlander model. This restriction is purely fluff based. Basically in the Ariadna Commercial Conflict those guys were total A-holes to the Highlanders (Indiscriminate killing etc)

Other than in ITS tournaments/scenarios etc there is no restriction to what Merc you can take with which force. You can even do a Merc Company and take a Jotum been tempted to do this because I love the model.

Having said that I also read some where that you cannot take Yuan Yuan with Yu Jing, not sure if this is a real restriction or a fluff based one.

Some of us who were around in the 80s remember the Druze Militias from those days in the middle - and it was generally a bad thing to be around them.
It wasn't just shiite v sunni back then, it was druze v all of them, too. "Palestine", Israel, Gaza, etc were all unpleasant places to be.

The Yuan-Yuan restriction sounds like fluff, not rules - unlike the kempetai one - for example - which includes the caveat IN the army list entry.

The Yuan Yuan restriction for Yu Jing is in their army list entry in the rulebook, just like the Kempetai restriction.

I've never used them - I don't think I've even read the profile entry - I know I've never read their fluff text.

It's another one of those "dislike sculpt", have no alternate models to use, so I won't use them, kinda things.

Hasn't stopped me with Druze or KTS, though (they look good compared to the yuans.

Haven't really found any AD trooper that I've liked enough to want to use as a yuan so far.

 chromedog wrote:
^ +1 to this.

The "tournament, always" mindset that crept into gaming circles is an abomination unto gaming.

By default, Mercs are legal and legit for any army to use, in non-ITS games (which are only a tournament where you will get ITS ranking points. If it is a tournament that ISN'T ITS, then this might well NOT hold water).

I've never had a problem bringing a merc to the game at my FLGS. As you've said, "the tournament always" approach is not a good thing for the community, and we should try to promote a different approach.