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It may be anectodal but in one shot it took out a kitted out Exterminator and a naked Demolisher that were 2 " from each other going around a ruin. 355 ponts of stuff that should have taken several LCs or wait for another turn for MGs to get close.

Yeah, that thing is one use only and costs 75.

 techsoldaten wrote:
Did some playtesting over the weekend with the new BL list in a couple games vs MEQ. Focused on what I could do with the FOC moreso than the artefacts.

Several units stood out as being particularly effective in terms of what they did and the combos they set up. The core of my army looked like this:

1) MoN Chosen - took a 10 man squad, gave them 5 flamers and a Rhino. The flamers forced my opponent to stay away and try to shoot from distance. They eventually assaulted with 30 attacks on the charge.

2) NMs - took a 6 man squad of NMs with sonic weapons and a blastmaster. they stayed behind the flamers. All their shooting ignored cover, but they took cover from the MoN Chosen.

3) Plasma Chosen - took a 6 man squad, gave the Champion a plasma pistol and the others all had plasma guns.

In terms of tactics, I had the Flamer Chosen in a Rhino and popped smoke at the end of the first turn. The other guys ran up behind it. At the start of the second round, the Flamer Chosen set up as close as possible to the enemy and just took shots while the other units closed in.

Is this legal? I mean there is no BL in there. I just started Chaos recently so have no idea how they work. I am just going from what I read. Don't you have to have BL ally with CSM or vice versa? All I see is Slanneesh, , NM and Nurgle. What am I not seeing here? Please help me.

GW have just released a Black Legion supplement

(iPAD only so far but a print version will turn up eventually.. I want to say November maybe, can't remember for sure)

it's not a full codex (you still need the CSM one), but it offers alternative warlord traits and a few other bits and pieces to let you run a Black Legion list as a stand alone thing

(which could, if you wanted ally stuff from the CSM book)

Who wrote this book btw?

Honestly the fluff in this was pretty good imo. It managed to make the Black Legion feel special without ruining their established identity. It also makes Abaddon into a total badass.

 Harriticus wrote:
Honestly the fluff in this was pretty good imo. It managed to make the Black Legion feel special without ruining their established identity. It also makes Abaddon into a total badass.

Yup. Very quality, especially for Abaddon fans. And the rules, while certainly nothing inspiring, aren't terrible.

My main complaint on both fronts is the lack of info or focus on other supporting characters within the Legion. Sure, several characters get name dropped, but apart from Abaddon nobody gets any focus. You never see their motivations or plans, you never see any influence from them. It's 'all abaddon all the time'. I was hoping for some new supporting characters, a la farsight's crew. But instead Black Legion just keeps access to the parent books special characters. Sure, most of them work with Abby on occasion, but when they do they bring their own forces, and that's what the ally rules are for.


But whatever, I can't really complain too hard. This book has a bunch of cool fluff, insight into the crusades, and Makes Abaddon a badass in the narrative, while giving players a few rules cookies to set their Black Legion army apart slightly. In all, I'd give the rules a 2 out of five, the scenarios a 3 out of five, and the fluff a 4 out of five, trending towards an 'acceptable' score of 3 for the book as a whole. Not as awesome as the Farsight supplement, but worth a purchase for Black Legion players and Abaddon fans.

It may well be that like many other Uber-leaders whether in war, business or politics one of Abadons traits is killing (or otherwise removing) anybody else who he thinks might possibly be a future threat

especially considering how he got the job

so the moment Chaos Space Marine Evil Bob is recognised as special he's either butchered, sent on a 'special mission' by himself (well away from the rest of the Legion) or offered to whichever Chaos power needs a cookie that week

so Black Legion consists of Abadabadon and a bunch of relatively faceless straight men with no other 'characters'

This just seems off at times. I honestly was surprised to see a single shot flamer (with soulblaze) as a warlord trait. Seriously, who wrote this? What author made everything so..expensive or weak.

Access to Eternal Warrior is nice, does anyone know if you can mix and match Artifacts in other words

Deamon Prince with Black Mace and the Eternal Warrior thing?

2x210 wrote:
Access to Eternal Warrior is nice, does anyone know if you can mix and match Artifacts in other words

Deamon Prince with Black Mace and the Eternal Warrior thing?

As per the rules, you can only take from one list if you take it. You cannot mix and match.

I can't believe they made Doombreed a normal DP with the Mark of Khorne though... So Lazy

Fluff and New Artwork (Especially the Cover!) Quite awesome.

The Rules? Absolutely terrible. The Artifact section is costed so bizarrely it makes no sense.

 Sasori wrote:
Fluff and New Artwork (Especially the Cover!) Quite awesome.

The Rules? Absolutely terrible. The Artifact section is costed so bizarrely it makes no sense.

Yeah, it's very schizophrenic about it's power levels.