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What are you looking for in an army?

Most powerful? Not Orks, I can say that. Nids and Guard are debatable. Is this going to be your first army? If so, I'd recommend IG. Nids are currently a very difficult army to use, however they may receive an update in 6 months or so.

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I am a tyranid player, so my choice go for them

They are very nice to play, with many different strategies to play.

And they are, IMO, more powerfull than IG.

When ever I see more powerful and not asking why, all I can think of is, do you really need to win with plastic toy soldiers?

What are you looking for exactly? Are you looking to win all the time with a horde army? Do you play just to win? How about fun games as well? What about fluff or fluffy armies?

We really need more information in what kind of player are you. Do you want a shooty or assaulty army or a mixture of both?

As for me, I am a Tyranid player so I am biased in what to choose.

Guard is still the best, even after the vehicle nerf. nids are a close second. Orks can be good but it's debatable, and they are not nearly as consistent as the other two.

Out of the three I say orks if you don't mind close combat. Their bikers are great but if you want mech heavy or shooting I say IG.

if you want a horde army its orks by a longshot. IG are almost always some form of a gunline with fliers and Nidz are rarely number heavy unless they have a lot of lucky pooping without rolling any doubles.

However Orks are mainly just for fun right now. They can be competitive, but its not easy and usually limited to green tide or bikerlists.

They can each be very powerful... It's all in how you play them!
As an Ork player, if I were to pick one of the other two, I'd have to say that the Imperial Guard bring a lot more power to the table than the Tyranids!

None of the above.

I believe that no army has a power level which is inherently greater than any other. In this, as in many things, experience and good sense are what makes a good player, not the "best" army. The misconception, I think, stems from the fact that some armies are easier to learn how to play than others. In that regard, I think Tyranids are the easiest of the three armies you list.

Now, that being said, I've recently had it pointed out to me that my opinion about army power levels flies in the face of all my observed evidence. I've never seen a Tyranid army lose. And I've never seen an IG army win. So take my opinion as you will.

In any event, I hope that helps.

 Jimsolo wrote:
The misconception, I think, stems from the fact that some armies are easier to learn how to play than others. In that regard, I think Tyranids are the easiest of the three armies you list.

Even here you are wrong. Both Guard and Orks are very 'point and click'. Orks - point your Boyz at something, run forward shooting. IG - point your guns at something, start shooting.

Tyranids require a lot of planning at the list building stage, a lot of planning at the start of the game (you'll need to adjust your playstyle purely based on what psychic powers you roll), and need good movement management during gameplay to ensure units are within buff ranges - synapse, psychic powers, innate buffs like the Venomthrope, etc. Then, very carefully pick your fights - Tyranid units all suffer from being glass cannons against some units while being absolute monsters against others.

The fact that you haven't seen people win with Orks or IG but have never seen anyone lose with Tyranids doesn't mean Tyranids are easier to play - it simply means you've seen bad IG and Ork players and some rather good Tyranid players.

Jimsolo...i think is wrong.

If you look at tournament results, you don't see the same top codexes in them despite having different builds for no reason.

There are viable builds for every codex, but the reality is that some are just better than others. I have yet to see pure SM win a tournament lately. Helldrakes happened. The best armies right now are the xenos. Daemons/Nids/Tau/Eldar

Orks, baby. IG probably have more firepower and work better with this edition, but Orks are getting a new one soon, and are just more fun from a background/painting/modeling standpoint, imo.

 -Loki- wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
The misconception, I think, stems from the fact that some armies are easier to learn how to play than others. In that regard, I think Tyranids are the easiest of the three armies you list.

Even here you are wrong. Both Guard and Orks are very 'point and click'. Orks - point your Boyz at something, run forward shooting. IG - point your guns at something, start shooting.

Tyranids require a lot of planning at the list building stage, a lot of planning at the start of the game (you'll need to adjust your playstyle purely based on what psychic powers you roll), and need good movement management during gameplay to ensure units are within buff ranges - synapse, psychic powers, innate buffs like the Venomthrope, etc. Then, very carefully pick your fights - Tyranid units all suffer from being glass cannons against some units while being absolute monsters against others.

The fact that you haven't seen people win with Orks or IG but have never seen anyone lose with Tyranids doesn't mean Tyranids are easier to play - it simply means you've seen bad IG and Ork players and some rather good Tyranid players.

He somehow believes that GW in all of it's noted incompetence can somehow balance over a dozen different armies perfectly.

We play Nids and Orks.

THe "powerful" army will change as new codices emerge. Go for the one you like the idea of the best, and the ones you most look forward to painting.

Personally, I'd say Orks as you hardly seem to see them these days, as people go for the normal point and shoot army. But they require finesse, probably, and a sense of humour, certainly.

As an SM/CSM player, guard blobs worry me the least of the three (not saying they stink, they're just not as scary as a Green Tide or a Zerg rush). Ork hordes typically have too many 5+ saves, but if you're thinking a boyz rush with Cybork Nobz or Nob Bikers, that can still work well in a non-tau heavy meta. Nids, if you use Ymgrals and Trygon borrows with some Tervigon/gaunt spam, that can cause fits with a little MC support. If you're willing to do it right, Nids are best for what I think you're looking for.