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On heading home my buddy and I were joking that Cloverfield could almost have fit into the same universe (pre-Jaeger), had it happened on the West Coast. Obviously not the horrible shaky-cam film style, but the theme was quite the same, where the amount of mundane ammo needed to kill the thing also took out half of Long Island..
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
The look of the film was very impressive, especially the design of the mechs and creatures and the big CGI "sets," and the fights were fun. There were occasional parts in the fight scenes where things momentarily went incoherent and the screen was obscured by water, smoke, glass, explosions etc but then things resolved themselves. They definitely got the crazy sense of scale right with things like ships and cranes being used as weapons...
All in all, fun for a night out.
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Driven away from WH40K by rules bloat and the expense of keeping up, now interested in smaller model count games and anything with nifty mechanics.
Eh....as much as I like well-crafted fighting scenes I prefer to have a whole package "well-rounded" movie rather than having to rely on only one aspect as the selling point while the other parts are lacklustre. I'll probably save myself the money and watch the fighting scene clips separately online later when they're uploaded.
Well more Monty Python and animated DC movies for me I suppose!
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Complaint 1: Hey - Jaeger Pilots! Why aren't you all wearing submersible rebreathing equipment as standard kit? You're standing on the RIM of the PACIFIC Ocean!
Complaint 2: Hey - Jaeger Pilots! Why aren't you in an armored bunker in the chest viewing the outside world remotely?
Those are all of my complaints.
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tl;dr
Epic, escapist cinema.
If you don't see this film you are dumb and sad and hide your stupidity behind a lame veneer of sophistication and erudite... drivel.
I'm already trying to figure out how I could make a 7" action figure of Whiskey Danger into a Knight titan.......
I also think the music was pretty dang cool to this movie.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
Complaint 1: Hey - Jaeger Pilots! Why aren't you all wearing submersible rebreathing equipment as standard kit? You're standing on the RIM of the PACIFIC Ocean!
Complaint 2: Hey - Jaeger Pilots! Why aren't you in an armored bunker in the chest viewing the outside world remotely?
Those are all of my complaints.
How about having swords which slice through the level 4 monsters with extreme ease, but never using them and getting into a 30 minute futile wrestling match instead which lead to the direct destruction of multiple robots and death of tens of thousands people.
Why would you need to beat a monster to death with a boat when a simple slice of the sword equipped into both arms of the robot could have done it in seconds? And why are all the robots not equipped with effective CCWs? I mean, the people 'train' to fight with weapons, and then get in the robots and fight like they are professional wrestlers.
And they were constantly 'throwing' the monsters... If robot punches and missiles and such barley hurt them, throwing them to the ground in a flashy wrestling move is going to do ZERO damage to the monster except maybe skin his knee.
The flaws were beyond disbelief. This is not like they were making the best of 'what they had' as if they found robot suits from a lost civilization. They built them. They could have built real weapons and used them opposed to Hollywood terribleness setting in.
When the robot punched a building to hit a desk toy on an office cubicle's desk, I wanted to walk out. And it would have been easy because there was barley half-full in the very first showing of the IMAX 3D, the very theater where superman was sold out a week in advance for the same Thursday night pre-release.
Flop-o-rop-o.
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LordofHats wrote: Is there any word on the theater take so far? I figured my theater was a random lucky coincidence for me, but it seems to be happening quite a bit.
Going in to the weekend, some tracking suggested Pacific Rim was in for a truly terrible start (below $30 million). While it wound up opening noticeably better than that, its $38.3 million debut is still a little disappointing. Because director Guillermo Del Toro isn't a mainstream selling point, and because the movie was entirely free of true movie stars, Warner Bros. marketing made the primary selling point the monsters vs. robots action. While that proved very appealing to a niche "fan boy" audience, the movie remained inaccessible to general moviegoers. Without their support, there's only so high a movie can go on opening weekend.
Huh. Gotta say. That's the exact opposite of what I was expecting XD Pacific Rim seemed like the kind of summer block buster people flock to en masse. Guess giant robots are even less popular than I always assumed they were.
Loved the gak out of the movie. My only complaints are there weren't enough fights. It's like the whole middle got bogged down in boring human relationship stuff.
They hyped up this awesome war between monsters and robots, and all we got was the tail end of it where we're getting our asses kicked. And we didn't even get to see much of that.
Spoiler:
It would have been awesome seeing Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon in a good fight without being wiped out.
I agree on the fights angle. I could have used at least one other good fight. They could have expanded on the fight in Australia, at least.
I think some people are missing the point of this movie. I went to go see all the best parts of the robots fighting from Transformers, but at 25 stories tall and without the parts aimed at oversexed 16-year old boys. It succeeded. Everything in it was for the "Rule of Cool". It wasn't supposed to be Schindler's List (though I liked that movie too, for different reasons).
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
So very disappoined with Pacific Rim. Too much talky talky in a smashy smashy movie (my wife fell asleep during the movie's longest/loudest fight scene- sad.) I wanted to see more of the 1st attack on San Fran or show us a few of the fights in Russia and China before relegating some of the cooler bots (and cooler looking Kaiju) to just a few minutes of screen time. I don't really need any of the fluffy "these are people piloting these machines- people with a back story" moments. I don't want your stolen speech from Independance Day or Stargate "oh crap" moment either. | will however keep your Big-O style piston fists and Monsterpocalypse style of combat.
On the plus side it did get me to pull out my copy of Godanar again.
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LordofHats wrote: Huh. Gotta say. That's the exact opposite of what I was expecting XD Pacific Rim seemed like the kind of summer block buster people flock to en masse. Guess giant robots are even less popular than I always assumed they were.
If you want to make a summer blockbuster you need a major director, a major producer, a set of major stars, or a major license.
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dogma wrote: I really liked the film as I got exactly what I expected: massive amounts of spectacle, Charlie Day being manic, and Ron Perlman being Ron Perlman. The obvious technical problems within the universe didn't bother me, as the implied subtitle of the film has always been "rule of cool".
Same here. I saw it Saturday and I loved it, it was pretty much everything I expected. I had a lot of fun watching it and left the theater feeling like it was $24 well spent (I paid for my brother's ticket, too). Also my first 3D movie ever, since I didn't want to wait until 10pm to see it in 2D and that was the only other showing before then, and...some of the effects were kinda cool, but overall I still don't like 3D. I don't feel like 3D is worth spending the extra cash (and I have to wear them over my prescription glasses so that sucks), but as others have said I feel like this movie at least did it well, so whatever.
No, it wasn't very "deep", the characters weren't very well-developed and the plot was full of holes, but really, who the feth cares? Who watches a Godzilla movie for the human characters and their plight, or complains about how the giant monsters or the science involved isn't "realistic"? The only reason to see this movie was for the action, and it was good: unlike with other films like Transformers where everything is not only fast, frantic and blurred, but the design of the robots is so complicated it's hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. I never once got frustrated because I couldn't tell what was going on, even though most of the fight scenes happened in the dark or in the rain. I don't care if the jaegers are "practical" or not, and while it would have been nice I'm not particularly fussed that I don't know more about Raleigh's background or why Chuck is such a douche, I got to see a robot beat the gak out of a giant lizard with a boat. I can understand people wanting something "more", because Hollywood does put out a metric ton of garbage (like Grown Ups 2, which was out this same weekend, and reportedly made more money than Pacific Rim, which is news that really makes me want to kill myself), but at the same time there really isn't anything wrong with movies like this if they're done well, and I feel like this one was. Best movie of all time? feth no. A good summer popcorn movie that's a pure joy to watch? Yes, in my opinion.
I keep hearing this movie isn't doing well, despite the fact that the reaction has been mostly positive (72% on Rotten Tomatoes and they're usually pretty harsh on movies that are genuinely bad). As others have said my theater was pretty damn empty, too.
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I got mine! Or rather they're on the way. Bought them online as soon as I got home.
-Loki- wrote: Loved the gak out of the movie. My only complaints are there weren't enough fights. It's like the whole middle got bogged down in boring human relationship stuff.
They hyped up this awesome war between monsters and robots, and all we got was the tail end of it where we're getting our asses kicked. And we didn't even get to see much of that.
Spoiler:
It would have been awesome seeing Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon in a good fight without being wiped out.
Spoiler:
Agreed, actually...I was disappointed that they didn't last any longer than they did, felt like they died way too fast. It was literally the first time we saw them in a fight, too. I don't have many complaints about Pacific Rim but the lack of jaegers was one of them, there were only four total and we lost two of them before they really got to do anything.
AegisGrimm wrote: I agree on the fights angle. I could have used at least one other good fight. They could have expanded on the fight in Australia, at least.
I think some people are missing the point of this movie. I went to go see all the best parts of the robots fighting from Transformers, but at 25 stories tall and without the parts aimed at oversexed 16-year old boys. It succeeded. Everything in it was for the "Rule of Cool". It wasn't supposed to be Schindler's List (though I liked that movie too, for different reasons).
I kept comparing this to Transformers myself when I talked to my brother about it after the fact. I really gave the first Transformers movie the benefit of the doubt, there was a lot I didn't like about it but I went easy on it because of nostalgia, and because you had to set it all up being the first film and all (some of the scenes were kinda cool, I still really love the chase scene with Bumblebee and Barricade), but Bay just kept making the same mistakes over and over in the other films...if anything it got worse. More stupid "comedy" with the gak parents, Megan Fox being put blatantly on display for all the horny kids and nothing else, dogs fething, deep wang...it was like the robots were an afterthought. But those movies made gak tons of money regardless, I'll never understand why.
This movie did all of the action right, better than Bay could ever hope to do, and didn't get bogged down with all that crap. They try to do a little bit of comic relief with the scientists (Charlie Day was the main reason my brother wanted nothing to do with this film originally), but I felt like it didn't detract from the movie much and those parts were thankfully over pretty quickly (and one of them lead to a surprise appearance from Ron Perlman...or at least a surprise to me since I didn't know he was in it). I really don't like saying stuff like this but I have to agree, it feels like people missed the point here. This was a homage to kaiju films and as I said before, they were never that concerned with the human element or making sure it all "made sense", you watch these movies because you want to see the monsters fight.
I think it's okay to complain about the lack of "smart" movies with deep characters and plots, but doing it here just feels awful pretentious to me. We're allowed to have fun once in a while.
Also, I hope no one missed Ellen McLain, a.k.a. GLaDOS, as the voice of Gipsy Danger's AI. I thought that was cool.
And yeah, I loved the music, too. Especially the "main theme", that was some catchy gak and almost made me want to jump out of my chair in excitement a couple times, lol. I plan on buying the OST, but you can listen to it in its entirety on YouTube.
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Desubot wrote: Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game."
So, now that the take is low due to Despicable Me 2 curb-stomping everything in sight for a second week, are we going to see the non-stop reporting about this being a box office bomb the way they did with The Lone Ranger?
Gonna go see this with a buddy Tuesday night. Mainly I'm going to pick up girls but I guess watching robots punch aliens in the face will be all right too. The trailer for this movie looked kind of meh, with the dudes inside doing synchronized Wii to kill stuff but I'll give it a chance.
The complaints about there being 'too much talking' sound downright odd to me. You need a break from constant smash, smash, smash otherwise you just end up with the Transformers/Matrix sequals.Battles lasting 45 minutes and nobody caring after about 20. One of the worst things an action movie can have is too many overlong action sequences. A good rule of thumb for a fight scene is that less is usually more.
In fact I thought the last battle could done have been with being shorter. When we finally saw the dreaded 'category 5' Kijau I was kind of monstered out.
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"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!"
Sasori wrote: Well, it's made about 90 Million of a 190 budget so far, so I don't think that is too terrible.
Enjoyable movie, I'd like to see a sequel that gives us some more information on the Alien race that is engineering the Kaijus.
There won't be a sequel. This movie came in 3rd behind a low grade comedy. As a big budget film its a dissapointment. As a B movie it would have been awesome.
I'll wait until rental maybe (probably not). The concept that monsters can survive nukes and bunker busters but something punching it kills it is a bit silly, but it might be good with three rums.
On the psotive I finally saw Silver Linings Playbook last night. Loved it but the ending was not in line with character behavior. DeNiro stole the movie.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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There won't be a sequel. This movie came in 3rd behind a low grade comedy. As a big budget film its a dissapointment. As a B movie it would have been awesome.
I'll wait until rental maybe (probably not). The concept that monsters can survive nukes and bunker busters but something punching it kills it is a bit silly, but it might be good with three rums.
On the psotive I finally saw Silver Linings Playbook last night. Loved it but the ending was not in line with character behavior. DeNiro stole the movie.
It’s basically the rule of cool.
The ‘big stompy robot’ program would in reality be an extremely expensive and convoluted method of combating these things, but this sort of thinking just defies the point. The whole premise of the film is for robots to fight monsters for our amusement, so the plot needs to claim that was the best solution. It’s just like Titans in 40k. Commonsense dictates they would be of extremely limit use in a combat situation, but they are an awesome concept so we overlook that in favor to the awesome.
If it was real life I’d spend the cash on developing better missiles and I’d mine the hell out the area surrounding the rift so that nothing that came out of it survived the journey to the surface. Wouldn’t make for a very good movie though.
You're right about Silver Linings though. Good Movie, like you say DeNiro stole it, but Cooper put in an impressive performance. Also anything that involves Jennifer Lawrence in lycra can only be good.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm off for cold shower.
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"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!"
Oh I understand about rule of cool. I still remember Godzilla vs. Mecha Godzilla.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!