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 easysauce wrote:
WTFFFFFFF!!!
the whole first bit of the movie I was like

"why do these giant robots not just have swords/axes/big guns/ect to shoot the kajus back into oblivious... why rock em sock em style"

halfway through, when whats her pickcle engages the sword arm.. Im like why wasnt that done ages ago...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForgottenSuperweapon

They do this all the time. Look at Voltron, at Power Rangers, tons of other shows... "Why didn't we use our giant one hit kill at the start of the fight, instead of the end?"

Because the enemy needed to be worn down first. Because it takes a while to charge up/activate. Because the writers and/or characters are idiots.

Hell, Iron Man 2 even makes fun of this trope in the final battle.

"Wow. I think you should lead with that one next time."

"Sorry, that's a one-off, can only be used once, done once."

In PR, they generally avoid slashing weapons due to the incredible toxicity of Kaiju blood, instead aiming on blunt force trauma and self-cauterizing weapons to reduce the risk of contamination and further civilian loss of life.

Also, as noted before;

yeah, its such a trope, hence why I was a bit put off.

either way, the 2 hour movie just needs to focus on its strengths (ie big monsters/robots fighting) a bit more.

I am not sure if I am proud or dissapointed that there was no godzilla spoof moment written in

that being said, likely the best movie I have seen this year, until anchorman 2 I hope

Finally saw the movie and really liked it. It was exactly what I thought it would be, plus it actually had a bit more story to it. I went in expecting a popcorn movie and I was more then happy with what I got. Hell, my wife had no interest in seeing it but she said yes because she owed me one and she came out of it really liking it...yeah, I know, doesn't really say much except that she had really low expectations for this movie except that she loves Del Toro and that being the only reason why she saw it.

I was really impressed with the CGI, I liked the story, I loved the designs of the Jaegers and Kaiju and the alien world. I don't feel like they need a sequel, it seemed to wrap itself up nicely.

It's a fun movie, as simple as that.

I'm planning to see it next week.

Just saw it and it was awesome! Glorious silliness!

While I'm not surprised that here on the internet there are people attempting to pick the film apart, I thought I'd chime in to say that this movie delivered exactly what I wanted it to:

Mechs fighting Kaiju in IMAX 3D.

They even threw the "internet movie critic" a bone with the kaiju fanboy who saves the day, but apparently even that didn't hit home for some.

I just don't get it...this movie ranks down there with transformers II, as one of the worst Sci Fi films of all time. It wasn't worse than transformers II but it was darn close.

GG

 generalgrog wrote:
I just don't get it...this movie ranks down there with transformers II, as one of the worst Sci Fi films of all time. It wasn't worse than transformers II but it was darn close.

GG

Put simply... brilliantly staged and well shot action scenes

To each their own though

 sing your life wrote:
I'm planning to see it next week.

You better see it now, it might not be in theaters a week from now. I was going to go see it again Friday night with my parents because I had been talking so much about the movie and got them pumped for it, only to find out they had pulled it to make room for Wolverine when we got there (the website hadn't been updated yet). Put a downer on my whole fething weekend.

Wolverine was okay, in case anyone's wondering and hasn't seen it yet. It was better than I thought it would be, but I didn't have very high expectations for that movie to begin with, so "not complete garbage" is the best thing I can say about it. Maybe I'm just bitter because I really wanted my parents to see Pacific Rim in theaters while they had a chance and they missed it, I dunno...

 Monster Rain wrote:
While I'm not surprised that here on the internet there are people attempting to pick the film apart

Guess it needed more hash brownies and robot balls to keep the average American movie-goer interested? Should have had Gipsy Danger piss coolant on one of the annoying human characters, that would have made it a few more million I'm sure...

 Flashman wrote:

 generalgrog wrote:
I just don't get it...this movie ranks down there with transformers II, as one of the worst Sci Fi films of all time. It wasn't worse than transformers II but it was darn close.

GG

Put simply... brilliantly staged and well shot action scenes

To each their own though

I have to say I did enjoy the Hong Kong bay battle when the Chinese and Russian Voltrons were destroyed, only thing kept me from walking out. Maybe I should have seen it in IMAX.

GG

For what it's worth, that sequence was in the last 20-25 minutes. I don't think anyone walks out that far into a film...

 Sidstyler wrote:
Guess it needed more hash brownies and robot balls to keep the average American movie-goer interested? Should have had Gipsy Danger piss coolant on one of the annoying human characters, that would have made it a few more million I'm sure...

Having it take place in a high school would have worked too. Oh, and singing. Lots of singing. I didn't notice a whole lot of product placement in this film either, which was shocking for a summer blockbuster.


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 generalgrog wrote:
Maybe I should have seen it in IMAX.

GG

I suppose if one hadn't seen it in IMAX they might not have enjoyed it as much.

The scale and spectacle of the film is about 90% of the appeal.

Lol, don't ask so many questions, its a movie about monsters fighting robots, just leave it at that. It's meant to be fun.

 Monster Rain wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
Guess it needed more hash brownies and robot balls to keep the average American movie-goer interested? Should have had Gipsy Danger piss coolant on one of the annoying human characters, that would have made it a few more million I'm sure...

Having it take place in a high school would have worked too. Oh, and singing. Lots of singing. I didn't notice a whole lot of product placement in this film either, which was shocking for a summer blockbuster.

Yeah, that's gotta be why it failed. Would have been so easy, too.

"Man, fighting all these kaiju is making me monster tired...", and then Raleigh downs a can of Monster. Or no, all the mechs have corporate sponsors.

 Sidstyler wrote:
Yeah, that's gotta be why it failed.

It floundered in the US, but is doing very well overseas. It should also be noted that it has also not been released in Japan (August 13th) or China (July 31st) yet, and those are two huge markets.

Also, I hated Transformers 2 but really enjoyed Pacific Rim. Outside of large robots, there is very little in common, both aesthetically or technically.

 Ahtman wrote:
Also, I hated Transformers 2 but really enjoyed Pacific Rim. Outside of large robots, there is very little in common, both aesthetically or technically.

Transformers 2 is the only movie I've ever walked out of.

I've fairly sad that Pacific Rim didn't do better in the US because I thought it was an enormously fun movie.

 azazel the cat wrote:
For what it's worth, that sequence was in the last 20-25 minutes. I don't think anyone walks out that far into a film...

There were two hong kong battles right?

You could be right, but I thought there was a good 45 minutes of film at the start[u] of that battle.The one with the destruction of the russian & chinese bots and the almost destruction of the aussy bot.

GG

Yeah, it really does highlight that people in America will only go see something out of their 'comfort zone' if it has a really big name director, star, or is an established franchise. Makes me sad in heart.

So many conversations I've had "Hey, you jerks go see Pacific Rim yet?"

The nerdy guy in the group "Hells yeah, that was awesome."
Everyone else "What's that?"

Me - "Oh it's this awesome movie about huge alien monsters invading from the Pacific Ocean and us having to build giant robots to fight them off. It's basically an homage to Godzilla films. It's super well done, definitely my favorite move of the summer."

Everyone - "That sounds stupid." or "Who's in it?"

Me "Sigh."


- and no Grog, that is the second to last fight scene you are talking about, the Russians and Chinese were killed at the beginning of it.

Never heard of it.

My friend and I saw it and thought it was awesome. A few other guys in my 40k group want to see it (when they can), and only 1 or 2 guys won't (1 loathes anime and anime-like things, the other didn't like dual pilots). But in America unless you get the big names/stars/brands or have the plot to draw in the "popular" people; it will tank.

Saw it in 2D, still loved it. Though the inner Techpriest in me died with the Russian Jaeger.

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, it really does highlight that people in America will only go see something out of their 'comfort zone' if it has a really big name director, star, or is an established franchise. Makes me sad in heart.

What's worse is that some of my friends who are all pretty nerdy acted like they're above watching such a movie. "I guess I just have high standards" they say. Sometimes 1-800-choke-em is the only solution

 Ahtman wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
Yeah, that's gotta be why it failed.

It floundered in the US, but is doing very well overseas. It should also be noted that it has also not been released in Japan (August 13th) or China (July 31st) yet, and those are two huge markets.

Also, I hated Transformers 2 but really enjoyed Pacific Rim. Outside of large robots, there is very little in common, both aesthetically or technically.

It's sad to think that the movie probably would have done better in america if it had included Black Face Jaegers, people being urinated on and titty slo-mos.

So, against my better judgement, I allowed myself to go along with some friends when they saw this last night.

I walked out of it about 20 minutes in, when boredom was settling in.

The way they hyped it up (friends), I thought that it just might be different from the godzilla movies I got tired of watching when I was a kid (Around the age of 8-9 I stopped watching them. Star wars and Battlestar Galactica were out and the new black).

I was wrong. I should have trusted my instincts and stood my ground. I've liked GDT's other films. It's just that this one had NOTHING to hold my interest (rather like Lord of the Rings, really). Giant robots? Giant monsters? Jurassic park had giant monsters, but they were dinosaurs and thus cool. This had nothing redeeming. And the Aussie accents? WTF?
Please, actors - if you can't do the accent right, DON'T attempt to. Robin Atkin Downes once said that he won't accept jobs to do that accent until he can actually do it (something that got him a lot of applause by aussies).

The only other movie I've walked out on was "night at the museum". The combination of Stiller and Wilson was just that bad and reminded me why I usually don't bother watching movies with them in it.

I don't think I'll be relying on those friends for move recommendations again.
The last friend whose recommendation fell that flat is dead to me, now (but he's dead to everyone. Really, really dead. And no, that's not disrespect - with his black sense of humour, that's exactly what he'd say if he WAS alive today). These friends are comatose.

A shame it wasn't for you.

Most theatres I know will refund within the first 30 minutes of a film, hope you were able to get your money back.

Also, for what it's worth, you missed the Aussie Jaeger, the most advanced and badass of the group.

Not that you'll necessarily care, I know some do. Just sayin'.

It's kind of his thing: find a thread where people are discussing some sort of pop culture item and talk about how much it sucks.

You get used to it, though the predictability takes any sort of fun out of it.

 chromedog wrote:
The way they hyped it up (friends), I thought that it just might be different from the godzilla movies I got tired of watching when I was a kid (Around the age of 8-9 I stopped watching them.

Yeah, I think that's a pretty fair rap. If you didn't like Godzilla movies I don't think this offers a fundamentally different experience at it's core, simply a more modernized and shinier version with humanoid Mechagodzillas.

 chromedog wrote:

Please, actors - if you can't do the accent right, DON'T attempt to.

I thought this as well, also the guy pretending to be a British scientist had the absolute worst fake British accent ever.

edit...it seems he was born in Hollywood to UK parents and was pretty much raised in the UK. I guess it was the caricature(nutty British scientist) that threw me off.
GG

The Australian accents were worse. It was a trip down memory lane to the end of Point Break. Americans seem to think Australian accents are an odd hybrid of New Zealand, British, Paul Hogan and Steve Irwin accents.

What's worse is Australian actors are regularly hired and made to put on this fake Australian accent because it seems Americans don't like it when Australians actually sound like Australians.

Robot action was decent. Characters pretty much killed the movie for me. They were all pretty lackluster and boring. And pretty annoying too for most of them.