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 Dakkamite wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Daba wrote:
Isn't this what overwatch represents? Using a rifle in melee should never hit on better than a 6.

The only weapons that really they look like they could be fired in Melee are Pistols, but that requires basically every pistol and model with pistols be recosted. Like Inferno pisols going from 10/15 points they are now to about 40 (compare with a powerfist).

Also, if you restrict the pistol to it's shot value (usually one), it will complicate matters a bit and therefore slow down assaults quite a lot.

Shh, no logic, only Peregrine's pathological dislike of Assault, Chaos, and the Tyranids now.

How could someone possibly hate Tyranids or Chaos? Chaos especially is a fantastically interesting faction (there are heaps of 'bug' factions in other things that bring down the Tyranids a bit though)

 I_am_a_Spoon wrote:
IMO something like this would be better than Overwatch.

Maybe all models with a non-blast or template Rapid Fire/Assault weapon could use its Strength, AP and Attacks values in lieu of their own?

At BS 1 but possibly also at Initiative 10?

Thats essentially what I suggested a few posts back. A squad can swap all melee attacks to instead fire a volley of overwatch into the other unit. I wouldn't be opposed to INT 10 if it replaced standard overwatch fire but definitely not if they get standard overwatch as well.

He has stated that daemons should not be in the game as they are unrealistic with their reality warping and psychic shenanigans, and without daemons there is no Chaos. So Chaos probably doesn't fit in his vision of Arthur C Clarke scifi. Nevermind that without Chaos virtually everything in the fluff changes.

He hates the tyranids and calls them "a fanboy army for those who failed biology" which is absurd as Jurassic park and the Tyranids were the big impetus for me to study paleontology and set me on my path to a doctorate in it. I'm sure plenty of others who did not in fact fail science class love them.

I think you should be able to use Pistols as CCWs (Yes, AP2 at I, Plasma Pistols cost 15 points), but anything else is pushing it.

 Kain wrote:

He hates the tyranids and calls them "a fanboy army for those who failed biology" which is absurd as Jurassic park and the Tyranids were the big impetus for me to study paleontology and set me on my path to a doctorate in it. I'm sure plenty of others who did not in fact fail science class love them.

Funny that he despises these things, but is totally fine with rubber forehead aliens such as Eldar or Tau

Simply put someone who despises the very things that define 40k as a game is clearly playing the wrong game.

You used to be able to use pistols in H2H at weapons strength assuming you had not fired them in the shooting phase. Melta pistols and plasma pistols were hilarious......

 Dakkamite wrote:

 Kain wrote:

He hates the tyranids and calls them "a fanboy army for those who failed biology" which is absurd as Jurassic park and the Tyranids were the big impetus for me to study paleontology and set me on my path to a doctorate in it. I'm sure plenty of others who did not in fact fail science class love them.

Funny that he despises these things, but is totally fine with rubber forehead aliens such as Eldar or Tau

Simply put someone who despises the very things that define 40k as a game is clearly playing the wrong game.

You don't even need a rubber forehead to be an Eldar, just a diet and gum on your ears.

I think it would make Plasma Pistols seem like a reasonable option if you could fire a shot with them in close combat. Maybe if it only worked with pistols and worked like Smash attacks do, I'd be fine with it.
You could argue that there's less attacks because the character is spending time avoiding hitting their allies, but that it's still based off of number of attacks because it's representing the ability for the model to spot a defenseless moment where they can strike.