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While making a FF save skips damaging (Becoming Immobilized, specifically) the vehicle, does it still move?

I do have the errata from the DE update for 6e, V1.1 =
Q: "Can I take a FF save becoming immobilized from a Dangerous Terrain test?"
A: Yes

Example: I move a Raider *out* of DT and fail the test. I manage to roll the FF save, but does the Raider stay (to try again next turn or Flat Out) or does it Move to where I tried in the first place?

Let's say you're a TO, how would you call it?

Are you immobilised? If not you can move.

Per the skimmer rules, the Raider doesn't take a test while in the middle of movement. It can fly over DT all day long without needing to test. It's only if you start or end your movement in DT that you need to be concerned.

If you start in DT, and fail the test then you roll FF. If FF passes then you move normally.

If you end in DT, and fail the test then you roll FF. If FF passes, well, you can't move any more because you've already finished the move. Unless you want to Flat Out, in which case you are free to do that.

In light of the skimmer rules, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "move to where I tried in the first place". Where you taking the test when you were flying over the DT?

clively wrote:
In light of the skimmer rules, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "move to where I tried in the first place". Where you taking the test when you were flying over the DT?

The Raider *starts* its turn in a crater, AT, ruins, etc. A player tries to move it out of the D-Terrain and into Open Terrain and that's when my Q kicks in.



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 Happyjew wrote:
Are you immobilised? If not you can move.

Which makes perfect sense, HJ.

But.


It could be argued that it got stopped, made the save, but is not specifically given permission (as per Permissive Rules Set) to continue Moving, right now. The vehicle is *not* Immobilized, but nothing says specifically that it can *now* keep going in the Movement Phase.

Sure, it can try to Flat Out or Move in the subsequent turns (causing *new* DT tests? Oy, let's not go there), but ... *now*?

For skimmers, DT is only tested at the beginning--when it starts--or at the end--when it finishes--of the model's movement.

If you begin your movement in DT, don't roll a 1. If you do roll a 1 and pass the FF save, then move as normal. If you do roll a 1 and fail the FF save, the vehicle does not move at all, or has it counted as moving.

If you end your movement in DT...it sounds like you're not exactly understanding how Skimmers move. Figure out how far the model wishes to move (0-12"). If that end point is in DT, then take the test using the procedure as described above. It doesn't matter if the Skimmer "passes over" DT, it only matters if the place the model wishes to stop moving is DT.

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
For skimmers, DT is only tested at the beginning--when it starts--or at the end--when it finishes--of the model's movement.

Right, at the Start, but this is not the issue.

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
If you begin your movement in DT, don't roll a 1. If you do roll a 1 and pass the FF save, then move as normal.

This is the point of the thread, *does* it move as moral if the FF saves?

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
If you do roll a 1 and fail the FF save, the vehicle does not move at all, or has it counted as moving.

If you end your movement in DT...it sounds like you're not exactly understanding how Skimmers move. Figure out how far the model wishes to move (0-12"). If that end point is in DT, then take the test using the procedure as described above. It doesn't matter if the Skimmer "passes over" DT, it only matters if the place the model wishes to stop moving is DT.

I'm not citing the situation in orange.

Background: I've been playing 40k for 8 years, own/play eldar, tau, DE & plenty of marine speeders, so I do know how skimmers move, through three editions, now.

Again, I'm not talking about "passing over" DT. Just starting in the Turn in it, moving to Open Terrain:

BrotherErekose wrote:The Raider *starts* its turn in a crater, AT, ruins, etc. A player tries to move it out of the D-Terrain and into Open Terrain and that's when my Q kicks in.

Anyone care to cite where it says that you can keep going after the save? OR perhaps a similar situation?

Brothererekose wrote:
Anyone care to cite where it says that you can keep going after the save?

I'm not seeing any reason why it would stop - making the save means it was never immobilized which means it never stops in the first place.

Have you yet moved? No - you dclare you will move, and therefore tae the test. If you fail, but pass FF, you are never immobilised. You now follow the rules, and start to move.