phoenixrisin wrote:
a response with a meme or youtube link is the lowest form of conversation. good game, thanks for the win.

 Kain wrote:

phoenixrisin wrote:
a response with a meme or youtube link is the lowest form of conversation. good game, thanks for the win.

Your statement was so opinionated that there was no objective way to respond. Ergo I informed you that is your opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

Now if you would like to objectively inform me why I must be secretly miserable playing apocalypse for a change rather than continue to try and state your opinion as scientific fact.

phoenixrisin wrote:

 Kain wrote:

phoenixrisin wrote:
a response with a meme or youtube link is the lowest form of conversation. good game, thanks for the win.

Your statement was so opinionated that there was no objective way to respond. Ergo I informed you that is your opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

Now if you would like to objectively inform me why I must be secretly miserable playing apocalypse for a change rather than continue to try and state your opinion as scientific fact.

so you enjoy building and painting and moving 200 identically posed and painted models?

 Kain wrote:
Not when I have a Hive Tyrant swinging around an Eldar guardian instead of a bonesword with another eldar guardian posed to look terrified.

phoenixrisin wrote:
he has just as much right to voice his opinion as you do. no need to get all sandy about it.

I don't think it's fun to move 300 models in a game (reason i sold my tyranids),

nor do i see any value or fun in the tedium that would results from trying to build any of the "formations.

all you have to do is look at the purifier formation and the necron warrior formation to see what an uncreative cash grab the new formations are. 100 necron warriors is now a formation? where is the fun or imagination in that? i'm just going to place $300 in bills on the table if i want to use that formation.

so you enjoy building and painting and moving 200 identically posed and painted models?

 Ratius wrote:
Havent picked up the new Apoc book yet but the Ctan is putting out more Firepower than a Hierophant, is that correct?

 Ratius wrote:
Havent picked up the new Apoc book yet but the Ctan is putting out more Firepower than a Hierophant, is that correct?

 Kain wrote:

phoenixrisin wrote:

 Kain wrote:

phoenixrisin wrote:
a response with a meme or youtube link is the lowest form of conversation. good game, thanks for the win.

Your statement was so opinionated that there was no objective way to respond. Ergo I informed you that is your opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

Now if you would like to objectively inform me why I must be secretly miserable playing apocalypse for a change rather than continue to try and state your opinion as scientific fact.

so you enjoy building and painting and moving 200 identically posed and painted models?

Yes, does this bother you?

And identically posed? Why given that I often make silly or odd or otherwise different models for the fun of it, I'd say you don't really know me.

Like one of my projects to try and make a reaver titan do the Gangnam style dance (yes I know I'm nearly a year late, sue me).

As you can tell, I don't take the game particularly seriously.

Not when I have a Hive Tyrant swinging around an Eldar guardian instead of a bonesword with another eldar guardian posed to look terrified.

Of course I've been unanimously voted "bugnut crazy" by everyone I've ever met ever.

Kangodo wrote:

all you have to do is look at the purifier formation and the necron warrior formation to see what an uncreative cash grab the new formations are. 100 necron warriors is now a formation? where is the fun or imagination in that? i'm just going to place $300 in bills on the table if i want to use that formation.

Solution: Don't play Apocalypse.

See how easy that is?

Can we now get back to discussing the Transcendent C'tan?

so you enjoy building and painting and moving 200 identically posed and painted models?

I already own 60 painted Necron Warriors, so yeah.. I do.
That's why I bought the Apocalypse-book and the Tesseract Vault: Because I love Apocalypse.

 Kain wrote:
I play normal games and enjoy them too. Primarily campaign games as me and those I play with prefer making storylines and essentially playing D&D campaigns with more miniatures, but normal games nontheless. Apoc is a nice way for us to have big clashes.

Silly models is a way for me and my wife to make something different and unique and utilize kits in way GW probably never intended for our personal amusement and those of our friends.

But I honestly prefer ROLE play to ROLL play.

phoenixrisin wrote:

 Kain wrote:
I play normal games and enjoy them too. Primarily campaign games as me and those I play with prefer making storylines and essentially playing D&D campaigns with more miniatures, but normal games nontheless. Apoc is a nice way for us to have big clashes.

Silly models is a way for me and my wife to make something different and unique and utilize kits in way GW probably never intended for our personal amusement and those of our friends.

But I honestly prefer ROLE play to ROLL play.

cool. i like to use my wit to amuse me and my friends. you like to use hours and hours of modeling time to get chuckles. maybe that's why you like apoc and i don't. i have too many interests and passions in life to spend 100% of my time on a subset of rules for a tabletop game.

phoenixrisin wrote:
yeah, and all of that is nerd culture. which is fine, but i'm little more well rounded than that. a lot of my interests involve leaving the house and being outside.

back on topic...a few squads of long fangs will take care of that c'tan

2x210 wrote:

phoenixrisin wrote:
yeah, and all of that is nerd culture. which is fine, but i'm little more well rounded than that. a lot of my interests involve leaving the house and being outside.

back on topic...a few squads of long fangs will take care of that c'tan

I gotta ask do you wear a lot a cut off tees and shout "NERDS!!!" at the top of your lungs? Nerd Culture lol, you are on a 40k Forum playboy I'm not sure implying some other guy doesn't do anything because he does "nerdy" things and you go "outside" means anything when you have the spare time to argue with people on a forum dedicated to playing with little toy men, unless of course you are currently replying while wakeboarding with your brosephs......

Anyway, how big is that C-Tan he looks tiny, I get why he is a monstrous creature what with being a god and all that, but it just annoys me I wish they would have made him twice the size of a Deamon Prince at least, imagine the pose but way larger that would be pretty sick.

phoenixrisin wrote:
yeah, and all of that is nerd culture. which is fine, but i'm little more well rounded than that. a lot of my interests involve leaving the house and being outside.

back on topic...a few squads of long fangs will take care of that c'tan

phoenixrisin wrote:
yeah, and all of that is nerd culture. which is fine, but i'm little more well rounded than that. a lot of my interests involve leaving the house and being outside.

back on topic...a few squads of long fangs will take care of that c'tan

2x210 wrote:

phoenixrisin wrote:
yeah, and all of that is nerd culture. which is fine, but i'm little more well rounded than that. a lot of my interests involve leaving the house and being outside.

back on topic...a few squads of long fangs will take care of that c'tan

I gotta ask do you wear a lot a cut off tees and shout "NERDS!!!" at the top of your lungs? Nerd Culture lol, you are on a 40k Forum playboy I'm not sure implying some other guy doesn't do anything because he does "nerdy" things and you go "outside" means anything when you have the spare time to argue with people on a forum dedicated to playing with little toy men, unless of course you are currently replying while wakeboarding with your brosephs......

Anyway, how big is that C-Tan he looks tiny, I get why he is a monstrous creature what with being a god and all that, but it just annoys me I wish they would have made him twice the size of a Deamon Prince at least, imagine the pose but way larger that would be pretty sick.

 Psienesis wrote:

phoenixrisin wrote:
yeah, and all of that is nerd culture. which is fine, but i'm little more well rounded than that. a lot of my interests involve leaving the house and being outside.

back on topic...a few squads of long fangs will take care of that c'tan

Competitive Xbox and Enduro-DBing don't count as being "well rounded".

Dakka Dakka
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 Alpharius wrote:
Wow.

General warning time!

Rule #1:

Dakka Dakka
wrote:Rule 1: Be Polite
This seems obvious, however many folks can sometimes forget that common courtesy goes a long way to lending respect to both you and your opinions. Just because you don't see the other users' faces doesn't mean they don't have feelings and won't be hurt by rude comments or offensive images. When you see something that you find silly, rude or insulting first assume that perhaps there is more to it than you initially thought. Look at it again, keeping in mind that tone and inflection is difficult to convey in a visual format. It may be that the person is attempting a joke or is exaggerating on purpose. It is best to politely request clarification before accusing someone being ignorant, a liar, or worse.

If after clarification you still disagree with the person then politely outline your points. Try to avoid name-calling or even implying insults wherever possible. These tactics generally only inflame a situation and lead to what are known as "Flame Wars." Whenever a flame war starts it usually ruins a perfectly good discussion. Others will lose interest in the thread and the site in general if this kind of interchange becomes a common occurrence.

Please remember that posting and reading online is a visual format and as such the spelling, grammar and look of your posts is the only way others understand what you are saying. Therefore, in order to be polite, all users are expected to make an effort to use proper spelling, grammar and punctuation and should refrain from using internet shorthand or other distracting methods of writing, such as writing a post completely bolded, with capital letters, in a strange color, etc.

It also should go without saying that swearing, profanity, sexual references, etc, are strictly forbidden, including all images that are posted on or uploaded to our site. Remember that we have users of all ages and that Dakka should be a welcoming place for everyone to enjoy.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/forum_rules.jsp

 Alpharius wrote:
The ONLY 'response' you really should use to something you think breaks the rules of this site it to report it using the "Moderator Alert" button (Yellow Triangle with an Exclamation Point in it).

ThePrimordial wrote:
I have a lot of nerdy interests but I also adore Football and Boxing. Anyway Kain is probably one of the friendliest people on the forum & you were pretty offensive.
Back on topic my point is that the C'tan seems to have a lot of relatively cheap Dakka & is durable for its 700 point tag considering the high BS
Dakka.

 beigeknight wrote:
Honestly I've got scratchbuilds that look way worse than that, but the people I play Apoc games with aren't picky. We just like to blow stuff up.

gutsmaka wrote:
I don't know if you realize this, Peregrine, but a lot of Apoc games are not played competitively.

if its a one off game among friends, then no one will mind the red warhound

 Ratius wrote:
I'll reiterate the points made above, if you're selecting armies to outright win Apoc or have some tactical nuances, you're doing it wrong.

Its a supplement to the core 40k rules, no more no less than PS, COD, SH etc.

phoenixrisin wrote:


why would that bother me? are you some sort of narcissist? just because i have an opinion doesn't mean that you wasting your money bothers me. you need help, bro. the world doesn't revolve around you.

and yeah, i think a titan dancing is lame as hell. i've never seen a mini that made me so much as chuckle. comedy is best left to people to understand it. spending 40 hours to model and paint something to conjure a chuckle from a passerby doesn't sound fun at all. have fun playing apoc. i enjoy games of around 2000-3000 using the base rules. you mad?

 Peregrine wrote:

 beigeknight wrote:
Honestly I've got scratchbuilds that look way worse than that, but the people I play Apoc games with aren't picky. We just like to blow stuff up.

Honestly what's the point then? The only thing about Apocalypse that is even remotely appealing is the scene of a huge battle with all those awesome centerpiece models you can't use anywhere else. If you're just going to play with a bunch of "scratchbuilds" and throw piles of dice around it's just pointless. You don't have anything cool to look at, and you certainly aren't playing a game. You might as well just throw some empty pizza boxes on the table, make some gun noises, and then throw the trash away.

gutsmaka wrote:
I don't know if you realize this, Peregrine, but a lot of Apoc games are not played competitively.

That's really low standards. Why should you be content for GW to publish a broken expansion that can only be "enjoyed" if you get drunk and don't care about it too much? Why shouldn't you expect that they produce a game that also works well when played competitively?

if its a one off game among friends, then no one will mind the red warhound

I disagree. Even in the most casual game between friends I don't want that kind of thing on the table. If you want a Warhound either buy (and paint) the real one, or make a scratchbuilt one that looks at least as good. Throwing together a 15 minute proxy just to make your army more powerful is unacceptable.

 Ratius wrote:
I'll reiterate the points made above, if you're selecting armies to outright win Apoc or have some tactical nuances, you're doing it wrong.

IOW, don't play the game, just put models on the table, make some gun noises, and take the models off the table. If you aren't supposed to make any decisions about tactics or army construction then how is this even a game?

Its a supplement to the core 40k rules, no more no less than PS, COD, SH etc.

And those expansions CAN be played competitively, with armies designed to win them and lots of tactics. Compared to those expansions Apocalypse is a joke.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 beigeknight wrote:
Honestly I've got scratchbuilds that look way worse than that, but the people I play Apoc games with aren't picky. We just like to blow stuff up.

Honestly what's the point then? The only thing about Apocalypse that is even remotely appealing is the scene of a huge battle with all those awesome centerpiece models you can't use anywhere else. If you're just going to play with a bunch of "scratchbuilds" and throw piles of dice around it's just pointless. You don't have anything cool to look at, and you certainly aren't playing a game. You might as well just throw some empty pizza boxes on the table, make some gun noises, and then throw the trash away.

gutsmaka wrote:
I don't know if you realize this, Peregrine, but a lot of Apoc games are not played competitively.

That's really low standards. Why should you be content for GW to publish a broken expansion that can only be "enjoyed" if you get drunk and don't care about it too much? Why shouldn't you expect that they produce a game that also works well when played competitively?

if its a one off game among friends, then no one will mind the red warhound

I disagree. Even in the most casual game between friends I don't want that kind of thing on the table. If you want a Warhound either buy (and paint) the real one, or make a scratchbuilt one that looks at least as good. Throwing together a 15 minute proxy just to make your army more powerful is unacceptable.

 Ratius wrote:
I'll reiterate the points made above, if you're selecting armies to outright win Apoc or have some tactical nuances, you're doing it wrong.

IOW, don't play the game, just put models on the table, make some gun noises, and take the models off the table. If you aren't supposed to make any decisions about tactics or army construction then how is this even a game?

Its a supplement to the core 40k rules, no more no less than PS, COD, SH etc.

And those expansions CAN be played competitively, with armies designed to win them and lots of tactics. Compared to those expansions Apocalypse is a joke.

I honestly have to ask, why do you even come to these posts considering all you do is hate on apocalypse each chance you get? You don't add anything constructive at all to a conversation and all you're doing is generally insulting anyone who actually likes apocalypse.

You hate Apocalypse, We Get It..Each Time you post in these.