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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 02:20:46
Subject: Battle brothers and joining units
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Quick question: Battle brothers IC's can join units.
Could I make a unit that only has IC's from both armies?
i.e. Lysander and a Tau Commander.
seems like a could. Reason being...they would deep strike. commander has 2+, 4++ T5 and feel no pain. So my unit would to T5 average with a 2++, 3++ or 4++FNP depending on which direct the firing comes from. Commander has either 2 fusion blasters or 2 plasmas (neither twin linked for more dakka while having enough room for systems.
They would deep strike somewhere, Commander can blow some stuff up then next turn Lysander does some work. I've also found that my commander built this way lasts quite a while in CC with his T5, WS4, 2+, 4++FNP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 02:24:04
Subject: Battle brothers and joining units
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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IC's can join each other. Battle Brothers can have ICs join each other's units. So yes, this seems perfectly fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 02:57:24
Subject: Re:Battle brothers and joining units
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Regular Dakkanaut
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seems that way to me as well. Let's add another wrinkle to this:
I take a Crisis Bodyguard unit. So, the commander and Lysander could both join it correct? Not sure if I would do this since I would lose my T5 average, but its a thought. Allows me to soften up targets more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 05:05:34
Subject: Battle brothers and joining units
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Drone without a Controller
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join a riptide for t6 deep strike
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 05:18:59
Subject: Re:Battle brothers and joining units
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Regular Dakkanaut
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can't join a Riptide as its a monstrous creature....that'd be pretty damn sweet thought. or a Waithknight scary
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 05:23:28
Subject: Battle brothers and joining units
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Lieutenant General
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Yes, you can join a Riptide. Being a monstrous creature does not prevent an independent character from joining the Riptide.
Independent characters are forbidden from joining units that always consist of a single model. Riptides do not fall into that category thanks to the drones that they may take.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 05:48:40
Subject: Re:Battle brothers and joining units
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Hellish Haemonculus
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spaztacus wrote:can't join a Riptide as its a monstrous creature....that'd be pretty damn sweet thought. or a Waithknight scary
There is some doubt about whether you can or can't join a Riptide, since it can take drones and therefore skirts the 'always a unit consisting of a single model' rule. If the drones were indeed intended to count as separate members of the unit, (and I believe that they were) then you can join an IC to a Riptide. (Unless I've missed something, which is always possible.  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 06:01:31
Subject: Re:Battle brothers and joining units
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Jimsolo wrote:spaztacus wrote:can't join a Riptide as its a monstrous creature....that'd be pretty damn sweet thought. or a Waithknight scary
There is some doubt about whether you can or can't join a Riptide, since it can take drones and therefore skirts the 'always a unit consisting of a single model' rule. If the drones were indeed intended to count as separate members of the unit, (and I believe that they were) then you can join an IC to a Riptide. (Unless I've missed something, which is always possible.  )
Given the Drone rules explicitly state that drones bought as unit upgrades count as members of the unit in all respects, it's pretty safe to assume they meant them to count as members of the unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 15:20:31
Subject: Re:Battle brothers and joining units
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Regular Dakkanaut
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but would you have to buy the drones to pull it off?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 15:33:42
Subject: Battle brothers and joining units
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Lieutenant General
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No.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 15:40:03
Subject: Battle brothers and joining units
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No, same as you dont have to have 2 carnifex in a unit in order to join an IC - the unit has to just have the *possibility* of having more than one model for an IC to be able to join
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/19 16:06:53
Subject: Re:Battle brothers and joining units
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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All examples given so far are legal, even the Riptide. However, I'm not sure why you'd want to do this. It's a horribly expensive way to waste either model's power. Every turn in combat is a waste of the Tau commander or Riptide, and every turn hanging back and not getting stuck in is a waste of Lysander.
The best results come from mixing units. Commanders can use kit to boost a unit's firing, and Lysander extends the lifespan of any Tau infantry unit by about 12 times :p
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