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I've been going around with the ideas about mekboyz and their (rather more crude) inventions in the world of warhammer fantasy, but then immediately, I think about if it's even possible for an ork mekboy to somehow travel through the warp (maybe for some time) to the other universe.

Is it, maybe?

This is an interesting thought experiment.

Two things need to be considered.

1) Would the laws of the Warhammer world allow for Ork psychic powers to function as they do (ork technology functions because orks believe that it does*)

2) There would need to be more then one mekboy, as the strength of the orks lie in their numbers. The more orks, the more powerful their psychic emanations. The collective belief the orks have in their technology is what gets it to work. One ork is not enough to will it to work.


As for the Mekboy getting there, who knows? There was a time when the Warhammer world existed within 40k, but it is heresy to speak such things now. Aside from that, the science of the day would suggest there are multiple universes, so its possible the Warhammer universe exists and the mekboy could travel from the 40k universe to the Warhammer universe.

*I dont think its all ork technology, but ork force field and teleportation technology. They are reputed to have the best force fields in the galaxy

GorillaWarfare wrote:
Two things need to be considered.

1) Would the laws of the Warhammer world allow for Ork psychic powers to function as they do (as all ork technology functions because orks believe that it does)

2) There would need to be more then one mekboy, as the strength of the orks lie in their numbers. The more orks, the more powerful their psychic emanations. The collective belief the orks have in their technology is what gets it to work. One ork is not enough to will it to work.

But maybe the orcs have the psychic powers? Granted, they might be different, but wouldn't it be enough for the mekboy to present his invention to a mob of orcs, and make them believe that they actually works?

I do think that he would be able to use firearms, since he has enough "energy" to make it work, since it is him who built it. What kind of mekboy would think his invention never works?

It's not that the Ork psychic field is required for Orky Tek to work at all, it's simply what makes it work as well as it does.

An Ork Shoota will still fire in the hands of a human, for example, but it will be an unreliable, inaccurate, jam-prone piece of junk. In the hands of an Ork, it can maintain a steady rate of fire down-range, more or less in the direction the Ork is aiming.

The only aspects that really need the Ork gestalt psychic field are things like Red Paint Job.

big mek crazygit wrote:

But maybe the orcs have the psychic powers? Granted, they might be different, but wouldn't it be enough for the mekboy to present his invention to a mob of orcs, and make them believe that they actually works?

I do think that he would be able to use firearms, since he has enough "energy" to make it work, since it is him who built it. What kind of mekboy would think his invention never works?

The mekboy could be so demoralized by the lack of fellow boyz that he has no confidence in what he constructs. But, regardless of what is written for the ork fluff I never really believed that the ork psychic field was required for mechanical devices to work. It makes more sense that it would apply to things like force fields and teleportation.

Psienesis wrote:It's not that the Ork psychic field is required for Orky Tek to work at all, it's simply what makes it work as well as it does.

An Ork Shoota will still fire in the hands of a human, for example, but it will be an unreliable, inaccurate, jam-prone piece of junk. In the hands of an Ork, it can maintain a steady rate of fire down-range, more or less in the direction the Ork is aiming.

The only aspects that really need the Ork gestalt psychic field are things like Red Paint Job.

Agreed.

Hasn't GW moved away from the ork psychic lubricant idea? They haven't mentioned it much for a while and it was only an in-universe theory (another of Magos Anzion's iirc and he wasn't too sure about it himself).

Of course the WFB world was part of the 40K galaxy once upon a time, hence the old Chaos Champion model with a plasma pistol or the power fist that could be found in the Albion campaign. If you wanted an ork mek to end up in WFB then why not. I can already see steam powered stompas!

 Gogsnik wrote:
Of course the WFB world was part of the 40K galaxy once upon a time, hence the old Chaos Champion model with a plasma pistol or the power fist that could be found in the Albion campaign. If you wanted an ork mek to end up in WFB then why not. I can already see steam powered stompas!

Don't forget the rokkit packs, that made lots of orcs die!

 Gogsnik wrote:
Hasn't GW moved away from the ork psychic lubricant idea? They haven't mentioned it much for a while and it was only an in-universe theory (another of Magos Anzion's iirc and he wasn't too sure about it himself).

GW may have moved away. but I haven't!

 Gogsnik wrote:
Hasn't GW moved away from the ork psychic lubricant idea? They haven't mentioned it much for a while and it was only an in-universe theory (another of Magos Anzion's iirc and he wasn't too sure about it himself).

Of course the WFB world was part of the 40K galaxy once upon a time, hence the old Chaos Champion model with a plasma pistol or the power fist that could be found in the Albion campaign. If you wanted an ork mek to end up in WFB then why not. I can already see steam powered stompas!

Not really, no. The Orks haven't really, fundamentally, changed in decades now. They've refined the effects of the gestalt psychic field (with some help from BL and the various spin-off products), and established that Orks have a genetic encoding of all the knowledge their type of Ork would need (Mek, MadDok, Weird, etc.) and established that Ork tech works on its own, it's not "magic", it's just different from the Imperium and violates the AdMech's beliefs, so humans don't understand *how* it works.

 big mek crazygit wrote:
I've been going around with the ideas about mekboyz and their (rather more crude) inventions in the world of warhammer fantasy, but then immediately, I think about if it's even possible for an ork mekboy to somehow travel through the warp (maybe for some time) to the other universe.

Is it, maybe?

That is cool idea big mek crazygit. Cracy a bit, but cool.

FYI - there is one notable event when Ork accidentially travel not only through space but also in time. That could be useful for you.

Grizgutz is an Ork Warlord who launched a Waaagh! into the Morloq system. Using warp travel, Grizgutz and his Boyz unwittingly traveled back in time and emerged back into the materium shortly before they departed. A noted kleptomaniac, Grizgutz killed his earlier self so he could have his favorite gun as a spare. However, the resulting confusion caused by this turn of events threw Grizgutz's Waaagh! into disarray.

Source: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Grizgutz

Cheers

 big mek crazygit wrote:
I've been going around with the ideas about mekboyz and their (rather more crude) inventions in the world of warhammer fantasy, but then immediately, I think about if it's even possible for an ork mekboy to somehow travel through the warp (maybe for some time) to the other universe.

Is it, maybe?

i do distinctly remember reading in the small rule book for 40k (or maybe somewhere else, but definitely official GW) that as an interesting set up, play a game incorporating both fantasy and 40K as though the 40K factions were battling for the rights of a feral, un-colonized world.