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 dogma wrote:

 Redbeard wrote:

d) he's had some officiating calls go his way - well, he's not the ref. Besides, what star QBs don't get calls from the ref. Aaron Rogers got more than his share this year.

This is compacted by the fact that the Patriots, as a team, tend to get calls in their favor because they have been labelled as a "good team"; which they are.

For me the annoyance isn't the Pats themselves, but the commentators and officials that defer to the "good team" label. The unnecessary roughness call against Butler was a prime example of that.

You do realize the patriots are barely in the top half of benificiary penalties in the league. And in a playoff game at home last night they didn't have a flag go their way till the 3rd quarter? Try looking at seattles defense where there is literally holding by their DB's on EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY... Or watching this 49'ers panthers game, or a broncos game before you claim the patriots "usually" have calls go their way. That's such a cop out against a team that just keeps winning no matter what happens.

And the Cats lost.

49ers at 'Hawks

there will be blood and broken bones.

I won't count Cam out. But if they can't score quickly here it's over.


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I take that back ;p now it's over.

Yet another reason i loathe the 49ers.

Classless thugs. How many taunts did they do throughout the game?!

Kap insulting Cam with the TD celebration. Bpldin and all his antics. And of course their whiny ass coach.

I wouldn't shed a tear if there were midair mechanical failures.

Chancetragedy wrote:

You do realize the patriots are barely in the top half of benificiary penalties in the league. And in a playoff game at home last night they didn't have a flag go their way till the 3rd quarter? Try looking at seattles defense where there is literally holding by their DB's on EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY... Or watching this 49'ers panthers game, or a broncos game before you claim the patriots "usually" have calls go their way. That's such a cop out against a team that just keeps winning no matter what happens.

New England is 4th in terms of beneficiary penalties, and 6th in per game terms. So yeah, "barely in the top half".

At any rate, the number of penalties is far less important than the significance of those penalties*. But, again, this is not New England's fault, it is the fault of the league and the officials.




*Body-blocking a receiver is PI, but running one over is not?

When did a sack become roughing the passer? facepalm

 Byte wrote:
When did a sack become roughing the passer? facepalm

When Roger Goodell thought he was a genius and knew what was best for the league.


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ESPN is reporting that the Miami heat are looking to hire Cam Newton as a flopping coach.

 dogma wrote:

Chancetragedy wrote:

You do realize the patriots are barely in the top half of benificiary penalties in the league. And in a playoff game at home last night they didn't have a flag go their way till the 3rd quarter? Try looking at seattles defense where there is literally holding by their DB's on EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY... Or watching this 49'ers panthers game, or a broncos game before you claim the patriots "usually" have calls go their way. That's such a cop out against a team that just keeps winning no matter what happens.

New England is 4th in terms of beneficiary penalties, and 6th in per game terms. So yeah, "barely in the top half".

At any rate, the number of penalties is far less important than the significance of those penalties*. But, again, this is not New England's fault, it is the fault of the league and the officials.




*Body-blocking a receiver is PI, but running one over is not?

Hmm haha wtf was I looking at before then. I must have completely misread that chart because I had them like 13'th when I looked at it the other day. Touché I'll concede that point then.

Wes Welker looks like a 7 year old with that extra padded football helmet.

Chancetragedy wrote:
Try looking at seattles defense where there is literally holding by their DB's on EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY...

I will point out, that when I played Safety back in HS, I played the EXACT SAME WAY they do. I was not the biggest, nor fastest, so I did everything I could within the rules (and slightly bending them) to make that fast guy my speed. Seattle's DBs are masters at knowing EXACTLY how to play a receiver tightly, with contact that doesn't garner a holding or PI penalty. It's one of many reasons they are one of the best Ds in the entire league this season.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Chancetragedy wrote:
Try looking at seattles defense where there is literally holding by their DB's on EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY...

I will point out, that when I played Safety back in HS, I played the EXACT SAME WAY they do. I was not the biggest, nor fastest, so I did everything I could within the rules (and slightly bending them) to make that fast guy my speed. Seattle's DBs are masters at knowing EXACTLY how to play a receiver tightly, with contact that doesn't garner a holding or PI penalty. It's one of many reasons they are one of the best Ds in the entire league this season.

Well, I punched a defensive tackle in the throat because he karate chopped my crotch and I kicked out.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Chancetragedy wrote:
Try looking at seattles defense where there is literally holding by their DB's on EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY...

I will point out, that when I played Safety back in HS, I played the EXACT SAME WAY they do. I was not the biggest, nor fastest, so I did everything I could within the rules (and slightly bending them) to make that fast guy my speed. Seattle's DBs are masters at knowing EXACTLY how to play a receiver tightly, with contact that doesn't garner a holding or PI penalty. It's one of many reasons they are one of the best Ds in the entire league this season.

Yah don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying it as a dig at Seattle but at the refs. Seattle has a TON of talent in their back end who know they aren't going to get called on every play so they're willing to take chances with contact/holding. Add that to their really fast/quick LB'ers and you have a scary scary pass defense.

 Piston Honda wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Chancetragedy wrote:
Try looking at seattles defense where there is literally holding by their DB's on EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY...

I will point out, that when I played Safety back in HS, I played the EXACT SAME WAY they do. I was not the biggest, nor fastest, so I did everything I could within the rules (and slightly bending them) to make that fast guy my speed. Seattle's DBs are masters at knowing EXACTLY how to play a receiver tightly, with contact that doesn't garner a holding or PI penalty. It's one of many reasons they are one of the best Ds in the entire league this season.

Well, I punched a defensive tackle in the throat because he karate chopped my crotch and I kicked out.

If the referees didn't call it, then it clearly wasn't a penalty

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Chancetragedy wrote:
Try looking at seattles defense where there is literally holding by their DB's on EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY...

I will point out, that when I played Safety back in HS, I played the EXACT SAME WAY they do. I was not the biggest, nor fastest, so I did everything I could within the rules (and slightly bending them) to make that fast guy my speed. Seattle's DBs are masters at knowing EXACTLY how to play a receiver tightly, with contact that doesn't garner a holding or PI penalty. It's one of many reasons they are one of the best Ds in the entire league this season.

Well, I punched a defensive tackle in the throat because he karate chopped my crotch and I kicked out.

If the referees didn't call it, then it clearly wasn't a penalty

I didn't have anything cool/funny like that. I just got in fights with offensive lineman as the defensive "enforcer". That and being a defenseman in lax is probably what led me to training in self defense and fighting after I got out of highschool lol.

Keenan Allen imo deserves Offensive rookie of the Year, a TD grab to make this a game

 TheMeanDM wrote:
Yet another reason i loathe the 49ers.

Classless thugs. How many taunts did they do throughout the game?!
s.

I find the irony of a Seahawks fan bemoaning another teams taunting hilarious

EDIT: Looks like Allen grabs a second TD (along with 100 yards in the second half)

God why can't you just get a single stop here chargers. You leave Thomas wide open like that? Unbelievable.

I don't get why SD didn't go for a second onsides. Like, you can try to get the ball, or just hand it to Peyton Manning... which seems like the game winning move?

S.D. had made it a game, and then kicked it away.

Lol game over unless the chargers can get a stop here. Even then it's really doubtful.

When was the last time we had 2 recovered onsides kicks in the same weekend of playoff play? Saints got one yesterday and chargers today.

That's bad logic. It's like the coin-flip thing. Once you have the first one, the odds of getting the second are no different than the odds of getting one at all.

Besides, it's Peyton Manning. As Aikman wisely said, why not onsides it, because the odds are good the it won't take Manning long to get to the place that they'd get it off the recovery anyway.


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And it's done...

 Redbeard wrote:

Since 2000, an average of 1 visitor wins this weekend.
I don't think it's Denver. I don't think it's Seattle either. That leaves NE vs Indy (Do you bet against Belichick/Brady at home?) or Carolina vs San Fran. I think Carolina is the home team that falls this time around.

Just saying, I'm not winning the Pick'em for nothing

 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
Keenan Allen imo deserves Offensive rookie of the Year, a TD grab to make this a game

Just from the few minutes I've been watching the game, this guy comes off as the worst sort of egotistical d-bag, I hope he finds his way out of the league. I'm sorry, but each time you score a touchdown, you should not be pointing at the name on the back of your jersey, you should be thanking your O-line for protecting the QB, then thanking that QB for having the eyesight that managed to see your sorry behind. In both of his TD passes, he didn't actually do much other than catch the ball.

Denver won't beat NE with that garbage defense.

I didn't mean it like that, I meant it as in its pretty wild we had 2 in the same weekend. I kind of agree your giving it to manning regardless so why not try and give yourself a chance to recover.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
Keenan Allen imo deserves Offensive rookie of the Year, a TD grab to make this a game

Just from the few minutes I've been watching the game, this guy comes off as the worst sort of egotistical d-bag, I hope he finds his way out of the league. I'm sorry, but each time you score a touchdown, you should not be pointing at the name on the back of your jersey, you should be thanking your O-line for protecting the QB, then thanking that QB for having the eyesight that managed to see your sorry behind. In both of his TD passes, he didn't actually do much other than catch the ball.

That celebration is pretty common in soccer so it doesn't irritate that much

Yah that's funny I didn't even make the connection to him pointing at his name lol. I always thought it was him "putting the team on his back".


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Anyone else have a problem with Denver and Seattle putting out newspaper ads and random announcements to not sell tickets to opposing fans? I think this is lame as crap. Yah I get it you earned home field advantage but still, why should I be excluded from going to the game because it's in your stadium.

This was the headline on Yahoo's front page:
Report: Appearance keeping Ryan from head job

 whembly wrote:
This was the headline on Yahoo's front page:
Report: Appearance keeping Ryan from head job

I think it's more the fact apart from this year he has had only one defence inside the top ten Yardage allowed (Raiders 2006)and never had one in the top 10 in points allowed before (Previous best was 13th ranked Browns in 2010)

 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:

 whembly wrote:
This was the headline on Yahoo's front page:
Report: Appearance keeping Ryan from head job

I think it's more the fact apart from this year he has had only one defence inside the top ten Yardage allowed (Raiders 2006)and never had one in the top 10 in points allowed before (Previous best was 13th ranked Browns in 2010)

I'm not really talking about the article itself... but the title on Yahoo's front page saying "Appearance keeping Ryan from head job".

I know...

I'm being juvenile...

 whembly wrote:

 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:

 whembly wrote:
This was the headline on Yahoo's front page:
Report: Appearance keeping Ryan from head job

I think it's more the fact apart from this year he has had only one defence inside the top ten Yardage allowed (Raiders 2006)and never had one in the top 10 in points allowed before (Previous best was 13th ranked Browns in 2010)

I'm not really talking about the article itself... but the title on Yahoo's front page saying "Appearance keeping Ryan from head job".

I know...

I'm being juvenile...

I completely missed that

How's the song go? "And the sign said long hair hippies need not apply?" That's what he gets ;p.




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Also Brady missed practice today due to illness. Highly irregular I hope to god he doesn't have pneumonia or something. He's been sick since early last week and this is the first practice he's missed...

Chancetragedy wrote:
How's the song go? "And the sign said long hair hippies need not apply?" That's what he gets ;p.




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Also Brady missed practice today due to illness. Highly irregular I hope to god he doesn't have pneumonia or something. He's been sick since early last week and this is the first practice he's missed...

Hey... the Boston area already has their Championship team in baseball... ya'll don't need the Patriot to win the SB. Let some other team win!


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 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:

I completely missed that

No worries dude... I did a double-take too!