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Hey guys,

I'm looking to create a fun to play 1500pt, possibly 1750 pt army.

Here are the models I have + what I'm buying, It'd be great if I could have some assistance in creating a decent list.

DP
Typhus
Plague Marines x7 (1 plasma 1 melta)
Plague Marines x7 (Buying)
20 Cultists/Zombies (Buying)
3x Obliterators
1 Heldrake
1 Heldrake (Possibly buying)
20x CSM
8x Khorne Berserkers
5x Possessed
1 Rhino
1 Rhino (Buying)

I'd love to be able to field both Typhus and the DP

Could you guys please have a go at creating a decent list from what I have?

Little bits of advice from my experience playing CSM;

-When it comes to special weapons on units, try keep them uniform. That way you know what kind of targets you want to set them against, and you don't have to worry wasting shots from weapons not suited for your target (Ex the plasma and melta on the PM squad; use two plas and send them after light armour, MCs, or tough troops. OR, use 2 melta, send them after heavy armour, then back in to clean up heavies.)
-Fielding BOTH Typhus and the DP in a single list cuts back on a lot of your options and model count for an army this size. Yes they're both plenty of fun, but prohibitively expensive. I'd recommend playing one then the other (proxy if you have to) before deciding what to stick with.
-Obliterators have never disappointed me. Whether deep-striked to get excited about choice, to keep your options open, or used as long range snipey-business, they're good.
-Heldrake is fun, useful, and someone will eventually tell you to buy enough of them to build a house.
-A blob of 20 CSM is fantastic. Durable, a reasonable threat due to sheer weight of fire, and hard to push off an objective.
-Haven't tried Berserkers, but have tried melee-oriented CSM and had what I understand to be equivalent results.
-Rhinos have always served me well, and are almost necessary for groups of Plagues. Great to use to grab linebreaker after they've dropped off their cargoes, and never understimate the value of forcing tank shock leadership tests. Wins games.
-Cultists, especially zombies, are uber useful and almost always make their way into my lists. Great for objectives or tarpitting, made decent choices to leave in Reserve until later rounds when they can scoot out and nab objectives.
-Never tried possessed, but hear they could be worse.

Hopefully that gives you a bit of insight!

Thanks for the tips.

My 20 CSMs have a mix of bolters, ccw, flamers, metlas and champions.

Would I squad of 20 be the best way to use them, even though they have mixed weapons?

What models do you use to represent zombies?
I was thinking of normal cultists with a Nurgle scheme, that way I can field them as either zombies or cultists.

Blobs of 20 CSM are only fantastic if you can make them fearless, otherwise they can lose in combat and get run down just as easy as anything. If you take Typhus you should definitely use the cultists as zombies. Also be aware that Rhinos give up First Blood reliably.

Typhus basically demands cultists, cheap & durable objective holders. Most people I've seen do exactly that, cultists painted up as zombies.

As floraljetbike said, 20 CSM is fantastic IF they don't get run off the board. Toss Typhus in there with 'em and they won't be going anywhere but into your opponent's grill.
I've also fielded rhinos with CSM loaded inside, specifically to rush them across the map, and managed to table a tau force that way at 1250 points.

As far as an actual list I have two suggestions.
1- Read over other Dakka-ites' lists here on the forum, at varying point values, and you'll discover a wealth of knowledge. People constantly argue the merits and demerits of various models and units in various combinations. It's the best way to learn without actually playing dozens of games to figure it out yourself.

2- Try your hand at writing up your own list. Not only does this give you experience determining what can be fielded with what points-wise, but it'll help you learn rules as you read over every little detail to make sure you've built something you can play comfortably.
Then, post that list up on here asking for constructive criticism. People won't generally go out of their way to build you a list, but they've got no problem poking at and fixing one, or tearing one apart and rebuilding from the framework, explaining as they go.

20 csm are solid and resilient.
Dp with black mace, MoT, power armour, wings, and psyker is a beast. (maybe the DP's best outfit) Couple this with 2 heldrakes, and several rhinos. Deep strike oblits or use them for range
Drop the berzerkers for noise marines try to get 2 blastmasters in there. I really like these guys.
Dont buy zombies. Zombies are an all or nothin imo. Use that $ for heldrake, noise marines, oblits, Pms
PMs are quite possibly the best troop choice. Ur good there






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Im not sold on possessed either

I run a lot of these in my 1350 list with pretty good results. I have noticed PMs do not make it up the field so well, so I recommend a rhino.
Have not gotten a chance to field this squad yet but I'd say this if you want heavy+light anti armor per squad:
PMs x5-2 plasma
Champ-Replace boltgun for Combi-Melta, melta bombs
Rhino-Combi melta, Havoc launcher, Dirge caster

Also zombies in squads of 15+ in cover are useful.

If there is anything wrong with this, do not be afraid to say. Still new but have a good amount of games done.

if you dont have champs, use possesed models as champs with meltabomb holders. Some have swords or claws. Myabe you can use the two with wings to make warp talons but they are not so good.

Get termicide unit to accompany typhus in a landraider, or put them in the 20 CSM group to make them fearless. I would not run 20 man CSM instead I would split them into two groups to get more special weapons. if you don't want to buy any more modles I think you can destroy them with the obliterators.

I wouldn't field Typhus or cultists/zombies and the DP in a 1500 point list. At that level use a Lord with MoN and you'll get the PM's as troops. Keep the Prince.

Use Rhinos to get the PM's to where you will need them.

What are Khorne guys doing in a Nurgle list?

Heldrakes are almost a must for the damage they can do. Some people refuse to take them for one reason or another. They are handicaping themselves.

Oblits with MoN is another must have.

As for zombie models, GW makes some for the Vampire Counts army in Warhammer. Mantic Games makes some too but they don't have the multiple combinations that you can get with the GW ones. And people have made coversions using IG and cultists too.

Hope this helps.

Gundor wrote:
I wouldn't field Typhus or cultists/zombies and the DP in a 1500 point list. At that level use a Lord with MoN and you'll get the PM's as troops. Keep the Prince.

Use Rhinos to get the PM's to where you will need them.

What are Khorne guys doing in a Nurgle list?

Heldrakes are almost a must for the damage they can do. Some people refuse to take them for one reason or another. They are handicaping themselves.

Oblits with MoN is another must have.

As for zombie models, GW makes some for the Vampire Counts army in Warhammer. Mantic Games makes some too but they don't have the multiple combinations that you can get with the GW ones. And people have made coversions using IG and cultists too.

Hope this helps.

I have the zerkers from buying the battleforce.

As for fielding the DP and Typhus, they're my two favourite miniatures, so I'd like to try and use them both.
Thanks for the advice. =]

I would dump the zerkers in favor of more plague marines if you can. Would ask your opponents if you can proxy or, if you're in the mood for it, convert them.

The DP is a point sink, unfortunately. I enjoy mine as well as a model, but would personally prefer the points spent on more bodies elsewhere. Perhaps more obliterators instead. Possible proxy opportunity here.

 reiner wrote:
I would dump the zerkers in favor of more plague marines if you can. Would ask your opponents if you can proxy or, if you're in the mood for it, convert them.

The DP is a point sink, unfortunately. I enjoy mine as well as a model, but would personally prefer the points spent on more bodies elsewhere. Perhaps more obliterators instead. Possible proxy opportunity here.

I just listed the zerkers because I have therm, I'm not really that interested in using them.
I might be able to swap them for something or ebay them.

Yeah, I understand that I'm shooting myself in the foot by wanting to field both a DP and Typhus.
Maybe I'll just create two lists and alternate them.

When you say more Obliterators, would 1 more be enough and field 2 pairs of oblits?
Or perhaps go all out and get another 3?

I'll draft some proper lists tomorrow, I haven't done it yet because I don't have the current codex at the moment.
I'm still waiting for delivery. =]

I like to run 2 units of 2-3 when I use them. This gives your opponent less of a singular target focus and allows you a little more situational freedom with their weapons.

 Huda wrote:

Gundor wrote:
I wouldn't field Typhus or cultists/zombies and the DP in a 1500 point list. At that level use a Lord with MoN and you'll get the PM's as troops. Keep the Prince.

Use Rhinos to get the PM's to where you will need them.

What are Khorne guys doing in a Nurgle list?

Heldrakes are almost a must for the damage they can do. Some people refuse to take them for one reason or another. They are handicaping themselves.

Oblits with MoN is another must have.

As for zombie models, GW makes some for the Vampire Counts army in Warhammer. Mantic Games makes some too but they don't have the multiple combinations that you can get with the GW ones. And people have made coversions using IG and cultists too.

Hope this helps.

I have the zerkers from buying the battleforce.

As for fielding the DP and Typhus, they're my two favourite miniatures, so I'd like to try and use them both.
Thanks for the advice. =]

They are my two favorite too. I field the DP and a lord at 1500. Typhus and DP at 1850.