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Greetings rules lawyers! I have a question that came up in a game I recently played.

pMorghoul has Overtake (which states that if he destroys a model with an attack, he can advance 1") and Double Strike (which states that he can make two additional attacks for each fury point spent.)

Now -- the question is, are the 2 attacks simultaneous? Is he able to spend a fury, kill the model he's B2B with the first attack, advance the inch, then kill another model with the second extra attack? The rule for Overtake says very specifically that after a strike that results in a killing blow is resolved, Morghoul can move an inch, so I am of the opinion that it would work.

Please help!

Oftentimes, unless a rule states otherwise, attacks are sequential. So for Double-Strike, no rule in itself or the Tactical Tips in the book entry says they are simultaneous, so they are resolved one-by-one. He can surf quite a bit from it.

And stuff.

Yes, morghoul can buy 2 attacks, kill something with one attack, move an inch, kill something else with the second attack, move another inch, and so on and so forth.

He can indeed move quite a bit when killing stuff.

Unless something explicitly says it is simultaneous it is not.

He is literally a walking Blender

If he was a solo or something instead of a warcaster this combo would be godly,

but as a warcaster unless the points is on the lowish side. Its usually not a good idea to risk him just to kill some grunts

I understand he also has Sprint, allowing him to run away around 8" after he is done, but thats still pretty close

7"

But thats why you need to weigh the risk of him going crazy on an opponent's infantry vs can he get away.

I haven't usually had a problem, especially if you have access to Fatewalker. Then you can get even farther away.

Admonition will help as well. Lets say some Bog Trog Ambushers came from behind. Morg goes in and kills 6 of the ten and then sprints 7 inches away and casts Admonition on himself. Next turn the remaining 4 Bog Trogs charge Morg lets say 2 make it into base to base then he Admonition advances 3 more inches away, ignoring free strikes due to Perfect Balance, outside of their reach and next turn finished them off.

i think Admonition already ignores free strikes, i use with Ossyan all the time.

Yep Skornergy

Remember that Overtake says you can move 1" , it doesn't say it needs to be forward

So on your last one you move backwards, letting you escape 8", not 7

Add Fate Walker to it and you can escape 15". A bit expensive though for a 5 Fury warlock.

Hargus56 wrote:
Admonition will help as well. Lets say some Bog Trog Ambushers came from behind. Morg goes in and kills 6 of the ten and then sprints 7 inches away and casts Admonition on himself. Next turn the remaining 4 Bog Trogs charge Morg lets say 2 make it into base to base then he Admonition advances 3 more inches away, ignoring free strikes due to Perfect Balance, outside of their reach and next turn finished them off.

In that scenario, when Morg gets charged by the 4 Trogs, wouldn't admonition go off at the first charge (potentially) allowing him to still be charged by the remaining 3 ?

Edit: I just re-read admonition and it reads

"When an enemy model advances and ends it's movement within 6" of target model in this model's battlegroup, the affected model can immediately advance up to 3", then Admonition expires"

So I suppose he could wait until the final model makes it's charge, THEN you could chose to 'activate' Admonition. Still it seems like you could end up in sort of a pickle situation. how exactly would the order of operation go down? Say he decides to charge with 1 model, he makes the charge. You have to decide to activate it before he does the charge with the 2nd model right ?

Just being picky, you can't sprint and then cast admonition, at least by my reading. 'At the end of this model's activation...'

I'm saying Admonition is already cast, you just choose whether or not to activate it

I was replying to Hargus' post in which he said sprint then cast admonition, just trying to make sure it's all clear

Each model moving within 6" will trigger Admonition individually.

So first Trog moves its charge, Skorne player may then choose to Admonition or not. And so on for each individual Trog. So Morghoul could wait till the last Trog finishes moving to Admonition away.

Admonition is basically a game of chicken between the two players.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Each model moving within 6" will trigger Admonition individually.

So first Trog moves its charge, Skorne player may then choose to Admonition or not. And so on for each individual Trog. So Morghoul could wait till the last Trog finishes moving to Admonition away.

Admonition is basically a game of chicken between the two players.

right, but say after 2 successful Trog charges to morgul, and morgul doesn't activate Admonition, the Trog player could then declare a run/charge and just run with the rest of the models, correct?

Yeah, you could choose to not move any more models near to Morghoul to avoid triggering Admonition.