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I'm on a 55 game winning streak with my tournament lists. I need you people. Tell me how you would spank them and what you think I would have trouble against. Haven't found one yet.

These lists are for Steamroller 50 point tournaments. The list chosen is pretty straightforward based on opponent. Comments and thoughts are welcome. But hit me with your best shot. Let me know what you think would trash these lists and how you would do it.


List A:

eCaine +5
Rowdy 9
Squire 2

Alexia Ciannor and Risen 5
10 Trenchers with UA 13
10 Devil Dogs 7
with Murdoch 2
Rangers 5
Black 13th 4

Gorman diWulfe 2
Reinholdt 1
Piper of Ord 2
eEiryss 3

List B:

eStryker +6 (Tier 2)
Rowdy 9
Stormclad 9
Stormclad 9
Hunter 6
Squire 2

6 Stormblades 5 with UA and 3x WA 11
6 Stormblades 5 with UA and 3x WA 8

Stormblade Captain 2

I am surprised that a Jack Heavy Menoth list hasn't beaten you.

TheMostWize wrote:
I am surprised that a Jack Heavy Menoth list hasn't beaten you.

Generally, a list like that falls easy prey to Caine. Menoth 'casters are not known for their high DEF or large control areas, meaning they have to advance with their armies. Generally speaking, if you are a Warcaster and leave your deployment zone on turn one, Caine has you.

 Kentucky-Irregulars wrote:

TheMostWize wrote:
I am surprised that a Jack Heavy Menoth list hasn't beaten you.

Generally, a list like that falls easy prey to Caine. Menoth 'casters are not known for their high DEF or large control areas, meaning they have to advance with their armies. Generally speaking, if you are a Warcaster and leave your deployment zone on turn one, Caine has you.

Bwahahahahaha

Have you met Harbringer?

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

 Kentucky-Irregulars wrote:

TheMostWize wrote:
I am surprised that a Jack Heavy Menoth list hasn't beaten you.

Generally, a list like that falls easy prey to Caine. Menoth 'casters are not known for their high DEF or large control areas, meaning they have to advance with their armies. Generally speaking, if you are a Warcaster and leave your deployment zone on turn one, Caine has you.

Bwahahahahaha

Have you met Harbringer?

Have you tried to hide a LARGE based model from his assassination run?!
I actually think she is his favorite haha

 Kentucky-Irregulars wrote:

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

 Kentucky-Irregulars wrote:

TheMostWize wrote:
I am surprised that a Jack Heavy Menoth list hasn't beaten you.

Generally, a list like that falls easy prey to Caine. Menoth 'casters are not known for their high DEF or large control areas, meaning they have to advance with their armies. Generally speaking, if you are a Warcaster and leave your deployment zone on turn one, Caine has you.

Bwahahahahaha

Have you met Harbringer?

Have you tried to hide a LARGE based model from his assassination run?!
I actually think she is his favorite haha

Well, Gatecrash reduces Caines range to melee, so I think I'll leave some models so you cannot melee me (and martyr so they don't leave), and then push my forces out (20" control range, yo) so you can't get close enough to me otherwise.

Or, you know, slap down a couple judicators or something.

I'm sure an actual Menite player could think of something, just laughing at your assertion that Menite Casters have small control areas (They do generally have focus on the high side of average).

Well, Gatecrash reduces Caines range to melee, so I think I'll leave some models so you cannot melee me (and martyr so they don't leave), and then push my forces out (20" control range, yo) so you can't get close enough to me otherwise.

I guess this statement is based on the idea that during the game, nothing in your army that is blocking Caine from getting within 19" of your 'caster will die.... at all.... ever? Like after 2 turns it'll all just, still be there?

Ok.

Doesn't harby have an ability to stop those key people dying though? Or am I misrembering.

 motyak wrote:
Doesn't harby have an ability to stop those key people dying though? Or am I misrembering.

She does, also this guy comes across as someone who can't take anything on board.

Harbinger delivery system with two large based jacks infront of her would chew this up.

tigerstyle wrote:

 motyak wrote:
Doesn't harby have an ability to stop those key people dying though? Or am I misrembering.

She does, also this guy comes across as someone who can't take anything on board.

Harbinger delivery system with two large based jacks infront of her would chew this up.

There are 2 Menites at the FLGS. I'll ask them both to put together lists like that and see how Caine does against it. I appreciate the ideas!

Also, what does "can't take anything on board" mean?

 Kentucky-Irregulars wrote:

tigerstyle wrote:

 motyak wrote:
Doesn't harby have an ability to stop those key people dying though? Or am I misrembering.

She does, also this guy comes across as someone who can't take anything on board.

Harbinger delivery system with two large based jacks infront of her would chew this up.

There are 2 Menites at the FLGS. I'll ask them both to put together lists like that and see how Caine does against it. I appreciate the ideas!

Also, what does "can't take anything on board" mean?

Means your somewhat arrogant tone and "I can take that with this... YR WRUNG" attitude is coming across as dense.

tigerstyle wrote:

 Kentucky-Irregulars wrote:

tigerstyle wrote:

 motyak wrote:
Doesn't harby have an ability to stop those key people dying though? Or am I misrembering.

She does, also this guy comes across as someone who can't take anything on board.

Harbinger delivery system with two large based jacks infront of her would chew this up.

There are 2 Menites at the FLGS. I'll ask them both to put together lists like that and see how Caine does against it. I appreciate the ideas!

Also, what does "can't take anything on board" mean?

Means your somewhat arrogant tone and "I can take that with this... YR WRUNG" attitude is coming across as dense.

Lol I love you.

At any rate, I'll strong arm someone into bringing Harby and lots of big models and we will see what happens. Honestly, that's why the Devil Dogs are in their, so we will see if those nets come into their own. I'll let you know how it goes.

So finally got to play the Harbinger.

And lost.

But not to the Harbinger, oh no. Caine was on hill sitting at DEF 19; no worries.

His Vessel of Judgment moves up, shoots a Devil Dog, then gets a POW 10 damage roll against a few nearby models. That's fine. Caine is one of them. Dice minus 3. Ok.

Boosts.

Triple box cars.

Good game.