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So my apoc groups facebook page is wondering if you can look out sir destroyer weapons by RAW, I'm on the fence, does look out sir count as a pseudo-save like feel no pain and RP or is it allowed as it isn't even a pseudo save.

Also if say a squad of six marines was under a D blast and you rolled for example 1,2,3,4,5,6 on the dice would one model survive as D weapons specify 'the model loses X wounds' thereby preventing spillover to the squad.

The only two situations that I am aware of that deny LOS! are
1) challenges
2) Vindicare sniper's Deadshot

So yes, you can LOS! wounds from a StrD weapon; and no, LOS! is no akin to FNP, since a model still dies with LOS! but does not die with FNP.

Clarify your second question?

Think I can agree on the first one, little clarification on the second one then. As D weapons don't roll to wound but instead roll on a table I was wondering if this prevented wound spillover, the table specifies the following:

1 - The model is unharmed
2-5 - The model loses D3+1 wounds
6 - The model loses D6+6 wounds

In a situation where 6 marines were under a D template and you rolled the full range on a D6 so 1-6 would this mean one of the squad survives as the table specifies that 'the model loses X wounds' rather than how it works for normal weapons. As one model has received an 'unharmed' result, or would the excess wounds from the 2-6 spillover into the squad.

LOS could be a bad idea though. if a IC is under the template, he's taking d3+1 or d6+6 wounds, so he'll have to make 2-12 LOS to get rid of the wounds which could end up killing more models then just letting the IC take the wounds.

sirlynchmob wrote:
LOS could be a bad idea though. if a IC is under the template, he's taking d3+1 or d6+6 wounds, so he'll have to make 2-12 LOS to get rid of the wounds which could end up killing more models then just letting the IC take the wounds.

That makes no sense. Thosr wounds are allicared in d3 and d6 groups as they are per model. Maked more sense to los based on rhose groupings.

 Bausk wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:
LOS could be a bad idea though. if a IC is under the template, he's taking d3+1 or d6+6 wounds, so he'll have to make 2-12 LOS to get rid of the wounds which could end up killing more models then just letting the IC take the wounds.

That makes no sense. Thosr wounds are allicared in d3 and d6 groups as they are per model. Maked more sense to los based on rhose groupings.

You can't look out if you have no wounds. so first you'd have to see how many wounds the character takes, then do the look out sirs.

The model is taking x wounds. X being a standard wound or d3- d6 wounds. I agree that each wound neefs to be los'd raw but I disagree that it should.

I think a follow up question here should be "Do destroyer weapon hits inflict instant death?" If so, all it takes is 1 failed LOS roll and the IC is dead. Best case scenario you could push the wounds to the unit, but most Destroyer weapons shoot multiple times so it seems pointless when the IC will have to take the last Destroyer hit regardless.

it's not ID

I'd say the wounds don't spill over (if a squad member takes 3 for instance), because it's allocated by model as you quoted. For a character though, I'd say RAW he has to LOS all the wounds (d3/d6) because LOS is done after wounds are inflicted and is done for each wound individually.

Order of opperations:

Shoot, determine hits, Roll for wounds, Declare LOS, allocate wounds, make saves (or dont, in the case of D weapons)


Since D weapons first roll on their chart for how many wounds they deal, i'd say for every successful LOS you would allocate each of the dice rolls.

In the example above, i would roll 5 look out sir rolls, and on a 1 then make you roll the D3+1 wounds that the singe failed LOS inflicted.

Destroyer weapons cause wounds to "the target" (which can only mean the target unit). It never actually says that those wounds are dealt to single models.

By strict RAW, this means that you roll to see how many wounds each hit deals, then allocate those wounds from the front as normal (or centre of the blast if it's a barrage). Yes, this means that a destroyer blast has a good chance of causing more wounds than models hit.

I don't think this is what was intended at all, so a viable house rule would be: Destroyer weapons automatically Wound the target, allocated as normal. When a model suffers an unsaved wound against a Destroyer weapon, do not deduct a Wounds from his profile as you normally would; instead, roll on the Destroyer table to see what happens.

Edit: looking at it more closely, the rule just says "lose X wounds", so it's clearly intended to apply to single models and does not really agree with my RAW solution above. The wording is a mess, so I still think my house rule solution would work well.

The digital book is different from the hard back book here. you're quoting the digital book, the hard back specifies that the model takes the X wounds.