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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 13:58:51
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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I recently purchased two dreadknights to get some heavy support in my army, and I was wondering how to kit them out. Everyone says heavy incinerator but a strength 6 ap 4 template isn't all that impressive for a 35 point upgrade. 12 inch range or not. I already am planning on bringing greatswords and personal teleporters on both, but as for their ranged weapons im not so sure.
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Grey Knight Phoenix Company 3000
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"*Sparten stabs marine through heart "Finally you're dead!" "Nu-uh beetch" *Rips sparten's head
off"- Grey Templar
"so manly, it has a fething banner saying how huge it's balls used to be before they left to settle down in a tropical island with a loving wife and kids."-Shrike
"I wouldn't murder her. Just cripple her for life."- Angel of Ecstacy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 14:13:20
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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First time you fight Tau you will be LOVING that incinerator. I don't play GK but my friend runs dreadknights all the time. The incinerator even works great on MEQ, just for the simple fact of piling on wounds. Personally, a fully decked out DK with teleporter, great sword, and incinerator seems to be by far the best.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 14:46:11
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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herpguy wrote:First time you fight Tau you will be LOVING that incinerator. I don't play GK but my friend runs dreadknights all the time. The incinerator even works great on MEQ, just for the simple fact of piling on wounds. Personally, a fully decked out DK with teleporter, great sword, and incinerator seems to be by far the best.
+1
It's pricey but so very useful either to take out pathfinders on turn 1, or shunt and run last turn to contest an objective from 33"+ d6".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 15:24:12
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Grumpy Longbeard
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The heavy incinerator is really the best option to take on the Dreadknight if you're taking a personal teleporter (even without the teleporter I wouldn't take anything else). The speed and range allow you to take advantage of any time your opponent bunches up units. In an army that is otherwise lacking in viable blast and template weapons (excluding plasma cannon Servitors), the presence of a single Dreadknight can force your opponent to deploy differently (i.e., spreading out) in order to avoid getting roasted. This is an advantage that's hard to put a price tag on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 15:26:09
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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Danny Internets wrote:The heavy incinerator is really the best option to take on the Dreadknight if you're taking a personal teleporter (even without the teleporter I wouldn't take anything else). The speed and range allow you to take advantage of any time your opponent bunches up units. In an army that is otherwise lacking in viable blast and template weapons (excluding plasma cannon Servitors), the presence of a single Dreadknight can force your opponent to deploy differently (i.e., spreading out) in order to avoid getting roasted. This is an advantage that's hard to put a price tag on.
Can you shunt multiple times with the personal teleporter? I know with interceptors you cant, but wasnt too sure with the Dreadknight's
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Grey Knight Phoenix Company 3000
|Wins:11| |Losses:6| |Draws:0|
"*Sparten stabs marine through heart "Finally you're dead!" "Nu-uh beetch" *Rips sparten's head
off"- Grey Templar
"so manly, it has a fething banner saying how huge it's balls used to be before they left to settle down in a tropical island with a loving wife and kids."-Shrike
"I wouldn't murder her. Just cripple her for life."- Angel of Ecstacy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 15:45:27
Subject: Re:Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Regular Dakkanaut
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My outfit is Sword/Flamer/Teleporter, and as I've said in other threads, I think all three are borderline mandatory upgrades on him, unless you're really tight on points and are running like three of them. Then the sword can go. The H. Incinerator stays.
The Heavy Incinerator gives you an out against cover-huggers and all kinds of infantry. The torrent part is what's amazing, you can get that flamer template into position so that you always get a bunch of hits on the enemy. Even against 3+ or 2+ saves, you put enough wounds on a unit via S6 that you'll make some of them fail saves. It also gives you some Overwatch help, not that a Dreadknight really needs it. Denying cover is the main thing though. Eldar of most kinds, Fire Warriors, Guard Blobs, Necron Warrior blobs, Cultist objective holders, Plaguebearers in Ruins, Lootas, anything that wants to use cover to stay alive will get roasted by the H. Incinerator, because the Dreadknight has the range to do it, and the mobility to get there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 18:39:18
Subject: Re:Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Thariinye wrote:My outfit is Sword/Flamer/Teleporter, and as I've said in other threads, I think all three are borderline mandatory upgrades on him, unless you're really tight on points and are running like three of them. Then the sword can go. The H. Incinerator stays.
The Heavy Incinerator gives you an out against cover-huggers and all kinds of infantry. The torrent part is what's amazing, you can get that flamer template into position so that you always get a bunch of hits on the enemy. Even against 3+ or 2+ saves, you put enough wounds on a unit via S6 that you'll make some of them fail saves. It also gives you some Overwatch help, not that a Dreadknight really needs it. Denying cover is the main thing though. Eldar of most kinds, Fire Warriors, Guard Blobs, Necron Warrior blobs, Cultist objective holders, Plaguebearers in Ruins, Lootas, anything that wants to use cover to stay alive will get roasted by the H. Incinerator, because the Dreadknight has the range to do it, and the mobility to get there.
Been True since 5th Ed. I've never run anything else, PT, HI, GS. 6th with the move to poor Armor Save units benefitting from ridiculous cover its even better.
T1 Shunt, Incinerate
T2 Move, Incinerate, Charge
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 20:31:41
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Sneaky Chameleon Skink
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I've kitted both of mine with incinerator, greatsword and teleporter. Expensive but brilliant, especially since I play against a lot of tau
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 20:42:09
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Do any of you use the psycannon or gatling psylencer?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 20:57:26
Subject: Re:Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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I have on occasion used the heavy psycannon for a little more blast-y goodness, but those who indicate that the optimal configuration is 'incincerator' 'nemesis great-sword' and 'personal teleporter' have the right of it. the psycannon is very expensive for what it adds to an already pricy model.
The gatling psilencer is a waste of time and points in my opinion. If you are close enough to a given army that the (admittedly impressive) amount of AP- shots will do anything to, you are probably close enough to charge whatever it is and annihilate it anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/03 21:23:50
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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That makes sense. It'd probably only really be useful for forcing grounding tests for FMC then(if you don't roll a 6 on at least ONE of those, your luck is terrible).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/04 09:19:48
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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The best armies out there right now are xenos, particularly tau and eldar. Having a S6 Ap4 torrent template is brutal against those sorts of T3 troops, ok its not so great against marines, but will still do a good job.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/05 21:20:41
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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hyv3mynd wrote:herpguy wrote:First time you fight Tau you will be LOVING that incinerator. I don't play GK but my friend runs dreadknights all the time. The incinerator even works great on MEQ, just for the simple fact of piling on wounds. Personally, a fully decked out DK with teleporter, great sword, and incinerator seems to be by far the best.
+1
It's pricey but so very useful either to take out pathfinders on turn 1, or shunt and run last turn to contest an objective from 33"+ d6".
How can you contest an objective with a non-scoring unit?
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Grey Knight Phoenix Company 3000
|Wins:11| |Losses:6| |Draws:0|
"*Sparten stabs marine through heart "Finally you're dead!" "Nu-uh beetch" *Rips sparten's head
off"- Grey Templar
"so manly, it has a fething banner saying how huge it's balls used to be before they left to settle down in a tropical island with a loving wife and kids."-Shrike
"I wouldn't murder her. Just cripple her for life."- Angel of Ecstacy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/05 21:24:23
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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prophet102 wrote: hyv3mynd wrote:herpguy wrote:First time you fight Tau you will be LOVING that incinerator. I don't play GK but my friend runs dreadknights all the time. The incinerator even works great on MEQ, just for the simple fact of piling on wounds. Personally, a fully decked out DK with teleporter, great sword, and incinerator seems to be by far the best.
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It's pricey but so very useful either to take out pathfinders on turn 1, or shunt and run last turn to contest an objective from 33"+ d6".
How can you contest an objective with a non-scoring unit?
Its not a vehicle, therefore it is a denial unit.
But I just use The Grand Strategy to make 1-3 of them scoring anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/05 21:41:03
Subject: Way to kit out Dreadknights
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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Fighting 3 decked out DKs is not fun... I'm surprised I don't see it in big tournies, that last would completely smash any Tau army.
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