FW gun emplacements/can anyone use them or just deathkorps?

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**Gomericus**

So Im wondering

the FW gun emplacements,,,can anyone use them? would the fall under the emplacement rule (T7) ect rule in the BRB ,,,and if so where might I get the rules for them? Im readiing over the fw pdf rules for them with the 40k stamp ,but it doesnt say 40k approved,,,,,,,,,,,

Thud guns,,,heavy mortars,,,ect,,,,ect,

**Bobthehero**

IA one, second edition has rules for the emplacement for normal IG

**Gomericus**

awesome,,,so they are the same rules posted via forgeworlds update for 6th ed. hmmmms,,,,,75pt basilisks ,,,,yep,,,,,,,,Ill be fielding two,,,,thanks Bobthehero

**Bobthehero**

If you are only using the Earthshaker version, look for the Siege Regiment PDF, there's the latest rules for it and its free (just replace the Kriegsmen crew with regular IG ones)

Otherwise look for IA12, since there are a few differences for the other cannons, iirc.

**Gomericus**

well I was using two griffons,,,,but modeled them as siege guns to fit the theme of my army,,,,,and well heck,,,,same points,,,,minus a HB or HF I'll get a basilisk ,,,thats awesome,,,just gotta fig out how to model the free tow vehicle,,,maybe a horse limber,,,,I am hoping to post pics later of the army

**kinratha**

Gomericus wrote:
well I was using two griffons,,,,but modeled them as siege guns to fit the theme of my army,,,,,and well heck,,,,same points,,,,minus a HB or HF I'll get a basilisk ,,,thats awesome,,,just gotta fig out how to model the free tow vehicle,,,maybe a horse limber,,,,I am hoping to post pics later of the army

Just remember to let your opponent know that The 75 point gun emplacement is not OP, but rather easy to deal with.

PS: keep the rules with you all times. either a PDF print out or a IA edition remember to get one of them.

**Gomericus**

How would a T7 emplacement be easy to deal with???? or am I miss reading something?

Pics of army posted in showcase.

**DrunkPhilisoph**

It's vulnerable to the same things as a comparable artilery tank, but easier wounded, can fail morale tests, can be affected by ID, etc...

**Talore**

DrunkPhilisoph wrote:
It's vulnerable to the same things as a comparable artilery tank, but easier wounded, can fail morale tests, can be affected by ID, etc...

It also has 8 wounds by default, and can have up to 12 for a single carriage, or up to 36 when squadroned. It also is not vulnerable to the same weapons, as things like lascannons will only maybe take off a single wound instead of causing a detonation with one shot.

**Gomericus**

what weapons are strength 14???

**phatonic**

Gomericus wrote:
what weapons are strength 14???

Well you aint T7 in close combat, so any unit that can deepstrike and charge the same turn pretty much nails your team.
Else.. a double six shock attack gun for Everything beneath a large blast template removed from play

Hit it with enough dakka and you'll be sure to kill it.

**Vaktathi**

Keep in mind it's still Ld7 (so you can force them to run), if you get into combat you're only facing T3 5+sv guardsmen, and they can't move. They're really hard to deal with if your plan is to throw lascannons at them until they're dead from across the board behind an aegis line. Get just about anything into CC with them and they're no longer useful, and anything poisioned, wound on X value, etc or attacking Leadership should work very well against them. The new Eldar really tear units like this apart.

**Gomericus**

Still at 75pts,T7,8 wound,pieplate flinging unit,,, thats not bad at all.....plop them behind terrain bracketing the entire board,,,combined with the rest of my force might do very well.

**BryllCream**

Those things are grossly OP. Taking one or two would be fine but if you spam them then you could have problems getting people to play you in your local scene.

**Gomericus**

I rather try not to spam anything,,,,but well those rules damn well could have been written for my army/theme.

**BryllCream**

If you're building an army around a theme rather than powergaming then you should be alright. It's when people show up with 9 of them, plus a cluster of Ld9 stubborn blobs behind Aegises, plus 3 or 4 vendettas, that people call cheese.

**Gomericus**

well yeah and what fun would that be to both run and play against?