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Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Buffalo, NY

Note:
Forgeworld wrote:Forge World is currently preparing FAQs to provide completely updated rules for all of the Imperial Armour and Imperial Armour Apocalypse books released prior to the arrival of the sixth edition of Warhammer 40,000.

So this will probably end up getting changed by FW once the FAQ is released.
It is based on the updated rules for Shadow Spectres found here.
Points may need to be adjusted.


Irillyth, Shade of Twilight...........225 pts

WS.....BS.....S.....T.....W.....I.....A.....Ld.....Sv
..7.........7......4......4.....3.....7.....4.....10......2+
Wargear:
• Phoenix Armour
• Spectre Holo-field
• Shadow Spectre Jet Pack
• Haywire Grenades

Remnant of Glory
• Spear of Starlight

Special Rules
• Ancient Doom
• Battle Focus
• Eternal Warrior
• Fear
• Fearless
• Fleet
• Independent Character

Exarch Powers
• Hit & Run
• Night Vision
• Shadow of Death

Shadow of Death: All enemy units within 12" of a Shadow Spectres squad that includes an Exarch with this special rule, roll an extra D6 when making Leadership tests and Morale checks, using the two highest rolls to resolve the test. Models with the Fearless special rule are immune to this effect.

Spectre Holo-field: On any Game turn in which a model with a Spectre Holo-field moves in the Movement phase, it gains a 5+ cover save. If it also makes a Thrust move in the Assault phase, this cover save increases to 4+. Note that cover saves granted by the Spectre Holo-field do not stack with other cover saves or the Stealth or Shrouded special rules.

Shadow Spectre Jetpack: A model with a Shadow Spectre jet pack gains the Jet Pack unit type as described in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook, granting them the Bulky, Deep Strike and Relentless special rules when moving using the Jet Pack rules.

Spear of Starlight: The Spear of Starlight is a unique Prism Blaster with an in0built power glaive (counts as a power sword). It has the following shooting profile:
Range.....S.....AP.....Type
...24"........7......2........Heavy 3, Lance, Ghostlight

Ghostlight: When a unit inflicts two or more hits with the Ghostlight special rule on an enemy unit or vehicle, it may choose to either resolve the hits normally, or to inflict a single Ghostlight attack in place of all hits with the Ghostlight special rule. When resolving a Ghostlight attack, use the majority profile from among the weapons that inflicted the Ghostlight hits, and for each hit that was inflicted on the target unit or vehicle either increase the attack’s Strength by +1 or reduce its AP by -1, to a maximum of Strength 10 and a minimum of AP 1.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/10 22:07:16


Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion




Connah's Quay, North Wales

Why did the power glaive get dulled down to a power sword? Didn't it used to be an executioner like Maugan Ra's? Any way, i'd change it to be identical to Ra's with +2 strength AP 3. Also I'm confused on how the ghostlight works. If all 3 of his shots hit (not unlikely) can he use his ghostlight to swap those 3 hits into a single strength 10 AP 1 (3 shots hit, plus 3 strength) but he cannot do this in a unit of shadow spectres because the majority weapon would be the prism blaster, or can he fire a separate ghostlight to the unit?

 
   
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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Buffalo, NY

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
Why did the power glaive get dulled down to a power sword? Didn't it used to be an executioner like Maugan Ra's? Any way, i'd change it to be identical to Ra's with +2 strength AP 3. Also I'm confused on how the ghostlight works. If all 3 of his shots hit (not unlikely) can he use his ghostlight to swap those 3 hits into a single strength 10 AP 1 (3 shots hit, plus 3 strength) but he cannot do this in a unit of shadow spectres because the majority weapon would be the prism blaster, or can he fire a separate ghostlight to the unit?


The old rules the power glaive counted as a power weapon. Since a glaive in akin to a sword, I made it a power sword.

If Irillyth is by himself, he can swap all 3 hits (assuming they all hit) into a single S9/AP1 or S10/AP2 hit. If with a unit of Shadow Spectres, you could fire all but one Prism Rifle in dispersed mode and it would not contribute to the Ghostlight. In that situation, you would have two profiles tied for majority.

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia 
   
Made in se
Wicked Warp Spider






Ios

Glaive is a polearm and shares combat characteristics with spears, staves and axes more than swords. Glaive is essentially a falchion stuck on the end of a long pole. If I'd reduce it to a standard power weapon it'd be either power axe or power lance. Personally, though, I'd make it ignore armour which is fine since it is a 200+ point character.

The other Phoenix Lords have two Exarch Powers. Most of them seem to have unique special rules. Irillyth is typical FW creation in that it lacks that extra "I want to use this model" rule, however, so no help from FW.

You are missing Warlord Trait. An Eye on Distant Events woyld be perfect for him - except the holo-field doesn't stack with Stealth! Bollocks to that! It would otherwise create both an appropriate in-game effect and nicely reflect his fluff.
I'd recommend Fate's Messenger or Mark of the Incomparable Hunter.
Mark would make most sense game-mechanically while Fate's Messenger would reflect Irillyth battling a greater daemon prince for many cycles before emerging victorious.

Slightly related: I'm not sure I think the new rules make the Spectres worth using, still. They are point for point rending worse at killing Marines than Warp Spiders, have lighter armour but more reliable cover saves. The fear thing is neat but not overwhelming due to that bastard rule ATSKNF.
And they lost range advantage on Cynosure.

I really need to stay away from the 40K forums. 
   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Buffalo, NY

 Mahtamori wrote:
Glaive is a polearm and shares combat characteristics with spears, staves and axes more than swords. Glaive is essentially a falchion stuck on the end of a long pole. If I'd reduce it to a standard power weapon it'd be either power axe or power lance. Personally, though, I'd make it ignore armour which is fine since it is a 200+ point character.

IMO Power Lances are a horrible idea, though as Irillyth has H&R it could be useful.

The other Phoenix Lords have two Exarch Powers. Most of them seem to have unique special rules. Irillyth is typical FW creation in that it lacks that extra "I want to use this model" rule, however, so no help from FW.

Correction. The other Exarchs except Maugan Ra have 2 Exarch powers. Ra gets three.

You are missing Warlord Trait. An Eye on Distant Events woyld be perfect for him - except the holo-field doesn't stack with Stealth! Bollocks to that! It would otherwise create both an appropriate in-game effect and nicely reflect his fluff.
I'd recommend Fate's Messenger or Mark of the Incomparable Hunter.
Mark would make most sense game-mechanically while Fate's Messenger would reflect Irillyth battling a greater daemon prince for many cycles before emerging victorious.

I wan't really sure on a Warlord Trait, though Eye would be great. It would be a simple matter of changing his Holo-field to a Remnant and allowing it to stack with Stealth/Shrouded. Possibly grant it to his unit if they have the Holo-fields.


Slightly related: I'm not sure I think the new rules make the Spectres worth using, still. They are point for point rending worse at killing Marines than Warp Spiders, have lighter armour but more reliable cover saves. The fear thing is neat but not overwhelming due to that bastard rule ATSKNF.
And they lost range advantage on Cynosure.


This I agree with.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/12 18:40:51


Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia 
   
Made in se
Wicked Warp Spider






Ios

 Happyjew wrote:
 Mahtamori wrote:
Glaive is a polearm and shares combat characteristics with spears, staves and axes more than swords. Glaive is essentially a falchion stuck on the end of a long pole. If I'd reduce it to a standard power weapon it'd be either power axe or power lance. Personally, though, I'd make it ignore armour which is fine since it is a 200+ point character.

IMO Power Lances are a horrible idea, though as Irillyth has H&R it could be useful.

Like I wrote, full stop ignoring armur is what I'd give Irillyth. I.e. "AP2". Power Lance is a horrible idea because the Power Lance is horrible and the weapon itself needs to be fixed and should be AP2 on assault.
The other Phoenix Lords have two Exarch Powers. Most of them seem to have unique special rules. Irillyth is typical FW creation in that it lacks that extra "I want to use this model" rule, however, so no help from FW.

Correction. The other Exarchs except Maugan Ra have 2 Exarch powers. Ra gets three.
I stand corrected.

You are missing Warlord Trait. An Eye on Distant Events woyld be perfect for him - except the holo-field doesn't stack with Stealth! Bollocks to that! It would otherwise create both an appropriate in-game effect and nicely reflect his fluff.
I'd recommend Fate's Messenger or Mark of the Incomparable Hunter.
Mark would make most sense game-mechanically while Fate's Messenger would reflect Irillyth battling a greater daemon prince for many cycles before emerging victorious.

I wan't really sure on a Warlord Trait, though Eye would be great. It would be a simple matter of changing his Holo-field to a Remnant and allowing it to stack with Stealth/Shrouded. Possibly grant it to his unit if they have the Holo-fields.

Yeah, remove the restriction for stealth-stacking and the unit itself may actually push itself to be somewhat competent. Being able to stick Invisibility on them for a 2+ cover save regardless of thrust would actually make a huge difference for them, but it is bad tactic to rely on randomly generated psychic powers. It's just a shame that Autarchs can't reliable get simple Stealth and remain IC (iirc).

Slightly related: I'm not sure I think the new rules make the Spectres worth using, still. They are point for point rending worse at killing Marines than Warp Spiders, have lighter armour but more reliable cover saves. The fear thing is neat but not overwhelming due to that bastard rule ATSKNF.
And they lost range advantage on Cynosure.


This I agree with.

It just feels like they should be 25 points per model or perhaps 24" range. Or retain the range advantage on Cynosure. It's just too bad that Blast Masters exist for such low points, they and the hellturkey are sort of a hard counter to eldar armies.

I really need to stay away from the 40K forums. 
   
 
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