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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 05:14:27
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Looking really good! Nice work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 06:32:55
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Freelance Soldier
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This is very interesting stuff, Gallahad! I especially like your de-steampunkization work, turning the linemen into general-purpose fantasy pieces. Make sure to share more of your conversions as you progress, really inspiring!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 12:12:26
Subject: Re:CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Looking very good!
The CMON EXPO 2015 was this past weekend, and it looks like TGN has an article titled "The Future of Wrath of Kings Revealed at CMON Expo 2015" - but unfortunately I'm work-blocked from TGN...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 17:58:40
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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something popped up on facebook too, but the links are not working (at the moment)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 18:01:15
Subject: Re:CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Here's the TGN article
Spoilers due to image size only.
CoolMiniOrNot’s miniature game news keeps rolling in from CMON Expo as the design team behind the newly launched Wrath of Kings (WoK) held a panel looking at the future of the franchise. For those of you unfamiliar with the game, it’s a miniatures game offering scalability in battle, ranging from small skirmish games to more massive battles between huge regiments and battalions. In it, five Houses — Teknes, Hadross, Nasier, Shael Han, and Goritsi — clash over the land of Arikania. Michael Shinall (Senior Designer) and Eric Kelley (Writer and Editor) took players through the changing environment and story of the game and revealed a few secrets of what’s to come.
Eric Kelley took players through the ever changing story of the WoK. One of the unique aspects of the game is the community’s impact on its future. Originally, the Houses were all warring against each other in what is called the Second Scion War (thanks to the Goritsi stirring up a bunch of trouble). To decide the winners and losers of this war, CMON has left it in the hands of the players at large events during major conventions.
At TempleCon, House Shael Han walked away with a major victory, seizing the major economic port city of Qualat Mon. But the Hadross quickly recovered at Adepticon, leaving the current story at them laying siege to Kylos, the seat of the old Empire. Going in to GenCon, Hadross players will have an in-game advantage. Whoever wins it all at GenCon will seize control of the Empyrean Throne and have a great impact on WoK’s future storylines.WoKMap
However, WoK players attending CMON Expo will also have a chance to put their mark on the game as the Houses battle over Falour, one of the smaller Free Cities, which offers strategic resources thanks to the Lord Teknes Dam. The winning player of this weekend’s tournament can decide to fortify the position, open the spillways, or blow the whole dam thing up. The last option would actually remove Falour from the map. It’s really cool to see a game that allows its community to have such an impact on its future.
Speaking of direction, Michael Shinall elaborated on the new WoK products players can look forward to. Much like their Dark Age strategy, CMON plans to release a new book every six months, each adding new troop types and specialists, along with five new characters. The deciding factor of which House gets new characters first is again entirely up to the winners of tournaments. Kicking off the new books is Wrath of Kings: Unbound (working title) in February 2016. This is the first major expansion to the game, and offers players some new choices.
For the House Nasier players, the Pelagarth Brute was teased. The trade mark masks of the House transform the males into these hulking monsters, making them glass cannons of the army. Other players will want to watch out for the Brute’s chain hooks, grabbing opponents from afar and pulling them to their death. The Hadross are bringing their big guns out too. Gar, the Gladiator calls upon the Carcharan Deepmen. These powerful units are built for combat, wading in, taking hits, growing stronger, and healing as they go. All-in-all, you don’t want to mess with these guys.
Teknes, normally the guys playing a little more defensively, will be responding in force as well, bringing the Butcher to the field. He is smarter than your average Union Worker and built in a more offensive manner than previous units. The Goritsi seem to be going the opposite direction of Teknes with the introduction of the Skorza Executioners. This big guy lumbers in to battle with plate mail armor, as opposed to the lighter leather armor other Skorza wear. This means the Executioners are a bit slower, but what they lack in speed is made up by their ability to survive.
Last but not least is House Shael Han. In the new book, the Chinese Zodiac plays an inspirational roll in the House’s new troops. The first of them being the tiger soldiers. Channeling the spirit of the animals they are based on, the tiger soldiers will dash around the battlefield, dealing damage and retreating before the opponent has a chance to respond.
Coming sometime after Unbound is the Campaign rule book. Campaigns will allow players to take a more vested interest in their armies. Leaders can be given names and grow as more games are played. Armies themselves will also grow and become more defined through traits and abilities acquired through choices made during a campaign. There is no hard date for this, but they hope to have it out sometime in 2016. Also mentioned was a motivation card pack coming sometime in future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 18:48:25
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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[DCM]
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Thank you DaveC!
Lots of cool stuff in store here - and still sad I passed up on Hadross - that new unit looks awesome!
It should be enough to set Highlords to Highlordin' too!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 19:12:22
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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Highlording? Pfft! Try Barzaming. That's a fully armored werewolf with a steampunk cybernetic arm. I'm all over that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 20:23:38
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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I thought the Highlord was, aside from the Lizard-Man guy obviously, the Shark-Man guy, and you were the Beast-Man guy, particularly for Gnolls?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 22:50:38
Subject: Re:CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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There will only be Highlording if those sharks are just a tad bit bigger. I was a bit underwhelmed with the sharks and fel hammers in regards to size. A little bit more bulk would have gone a long way, especially in comparison to how large some of those Goritsi wolves are.
I actually like the new pig there the most. It's like an old aristocratic 3 eyed pig.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/23 06:24:21
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Stoic Grail Knight
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I love the look of the new wolfen that have been shown here. I hope they show up before too long. It is too bad the shark men, etc. are too small. The Wolfen and Pig-men are really pretty huge.
Wehrkind wrote:Looking really good! Nice work!
-DE- wrote:This is very interesting stuff, Gallahad! I especially like your de-steampunkization work, turning the linemen into general-purpose fantasy pieces. Make sure to share more of your conversions as you progress, really inspiring!
Alpharius wrote:Looking very good!
Thank you all! Here are a few more crummy photos. They will photograph better when painted, which will hopefully be soon. Put down one coat on one of the linemen already (very dark translucent green).
Backpacks
Three sisters
Three guys
Sculpted strap, and helmets. I will clean that mold-line off crossbow guy's hand before I paint him.
Fancy hat
About to smash a worm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/09 23:22:07
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Where is the online presence for this game? I got a starter at Nova and it seems interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/10 13:28:05
Subject: Re:CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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When do you think wave 2 Kiskstarter will come around?
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22 yrs in the hobby
:Eldar: 10K+ pts, 2500 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/10 17:21:37
Subject: Re:CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Doubt there will be a Wave 2 KS.
All of the product going forward should see normal retail release without a KS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/10 17:41:38
Subject: Re:CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I wouldn't completely rule out another Kickstarter.
It would be a good way to introduce new factions quickly into the mix, and throw a bunch of new units out for the existing houses. Some more ranged units would be cool to see in a limited fashion (more specialists perhaps?).
I thought there was mention of one of the island city- states taking a stand and getting involved in the fighting.
I just want to see more, because Wrath of Kings is the closest I think I'm ever going to get to a new version (aesthetically at least) of Confrontation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/11 21:35:14
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Foxy Wildborne
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Given that retail distribution for this in the EU is almost non-existent, a new KS would be a much easier way for us to get any new stuff.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/16 20:35:32
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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This just popped up on the WoK Facebook:
So people have asked, "Just what does the future hold for Wrath of Kings"?
Horrific monsters. Lots and lots of horrific monsters!
We'll be previewing more upcoming items from our new wave of releases as time goes on, including sculpts, cards, and stories. Note that everything is subject to change, so go a head and tell us what you think!
So, our first preview to showcase: GORBAL THE RAMPAGER!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/16 20:40:09
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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[DCM]
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I like it!
I also like how I can sense the Ghost of Confrontation Past in many of the WoK line...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/16 20:56:10
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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I've not played a whole lot of WoK, but doesn't it seem a little too powerful? A guaranteed damage per attack (2 damage if he's hurt) looks major.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/16 21:00:52
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Alpharius wrote:I like it!
I also like how I can sense the Ghost of Confrontation Past in many of the WoK line...
You make that sound like a bad thing!
As someone who missed out on Confrontation the first time around (school, work, marriage, kids) and currently gobbling up all the old stuff, I am more than happy to see the influence continue to creep in.
I would not be adverse to another Kickstarter. Doubt it will happen, but at least we can finally look forward to seeing some new releases for this game!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 00:15:52
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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I did say "I LIKE how I can sense the ghost of Confrontation past...", didn't I?!?
CMON 'owns' some form of the rights to Confrontation proper, but I don't know what they've planned for it - if anything.
Until then - Wrath of Kings is what we've got - and that's pretty good!
(Although Dark Age is even better!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 03:29:02
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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MasterSlowPoke wrote:I've not played a whole lot of WoK, but doesn't it seem a little too powerful? A guaranteed damage per attack (2 damage if he's hurt) looks major.
Ehhh. He's a rank 2 leader so he's eating up a fair amount of force allotment.
And while he can do a lot of damage, he's only an ARM 1; won't be that hard to whittle him down I wouldn't think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 08:56:33
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Freelance Soldier
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Mantic sculpting for CMoN now? :>
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 12:57:59
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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[DCM]
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Dammit!
I had <12 hours for the first 'Mantic/Skipped Leg Day' joke!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 14:39:11
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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He's very proportional outside of his forearms. I'm just going to assume some of the crazy drugs made him go Pop-eye
Overall I like him and will add him to my Goritsi eventually. He's on par with other rank 2's and actually looks like he could be a solid boost for a primarily skorza force.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 14:51:56
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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MasterSlowPoke wrote:I've not played a whole lot of WoK, but doesn't it seem a little too powerful? A guaranteed damage per attack (2 damage if he's hurt) looks major.
It is also not 2 guaranteed damage based on how damage works
If we were to look at His card (because it is here) Most models hit him on a 7+. If he were fighting himself (just as an example) Unstoppable 1 would have him hitting on a 6+, and if he were wounded it would be a 5+. So on each dice he would be 50% to hit. Which means with his 3 dice against himself he would have an 93.6% chance to hit at least once. Which against resiliance 1 is 1 wound. He has only 21.6% chance of hitting all 3 dice (against himself).
So he is highly likely to cause 1 wound, but not super on 2 or 3 (better than most but not a given). So for a rank 2 leader it is not bad at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 15:57:02
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Oh, so Unstoppable would change one of his dodges on the chart into a damage, not change one non-damage roll into a damage?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 16:16:45
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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MasterSlowPoke wrote:Oh, so Unstoppable would change one of his dodges on the chart into a damage, not change one non-damage roll into a damage?
Exactly.
And I have to say from the dozen or so battle sized games I've played the actual rules are simple and elegant. I would love for this soar but locally it's still all 40k, X-wing, and now Armada. I'm good with two of those ( 40k and Armada) but wish we could get one smaller skirmish game off the ground.
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They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 17:31:48
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - New post-Kickstarter model, page 44!
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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MasterSlowPoke wrote:Oh, so Unstoppable would change one of his dodges on the chart into a damage, not change one non-damage roll into a damage?
Yes, there are other abilities that do it for specific types of defenses etc.
I've only played a little myself. Much like you got the starter at NOVA, my wife did a demo of it and loved the simplicity (Malifaux is my current game and she finds it overwhelming). So it will likely become a secondary game for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 05:02:02
Subject: CMON Wrath of Kings - Gorbal the Rampager, Pg 45
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Stoic Grail Knight
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The new wolf guy looks awful. It does indeed have the classic Mantic proportions. Have there been any retail releases of any non-kickstarter stuff yet?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 16:17:30
Subject: Re:CMON Wrath of Kings - Gorbal the Rampager, Pg 45
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Brutal Black Orc
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It's a wolf?
I thought it was some mutant plague rat experiment gone wrong now used for military conquest.
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