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I'm back and forth on whether shoving marines into a Land Raider for mobility and protection is better or worse than walking 20 MEQs up the board.

I'm thinking of Noise or Plague Marines who are Fearless with some kind of durability boost (FnP) and don't require 10 bodies in a Land Raider but I see value also with cheaper CSMs with babysitter.

20 Plague marines are going to cost you a whole lot of points, and they'll have a hard time applying their damage unless the enemy comes to you, because they aren't exactly fast. I know that smaller units(~7) of PM's work fairly well, and they will still stop anything short of a dedicated asault unit dead in their tracks due to fearless and FnP.

Why not both? Enter the Spartan assault tank. ~300 points of pure av 14 goodness, holding 25 infantry and some extra dakka. Drive this badboy up and dump your 20 noise marines right into combat.

or you could take Huron as a warlord and infiltrate your 20 marines.

EDIT: Nevermind

I'm not sure anything besides Berserkers and to a lesser extent Terminators really benefits from the Land Raider. The other troop choices are either primarily shooty or flexible enough where it isn't an issue.

Since they don't require getting the charge off, they can also just walk up the board throwing bolter shots with special weapons mixed in.

 minigun762 wrote:
I'm back and forth on whether shoving marines into a Land Raider for mobility and protection is better or worse than walking 20 MEQs up the board.

I'm thinking of Noise or Plague Marines who are Fearless with some kind of durability boost (FnP) and don't require 10 bodies in a Land Raider but I see value also with cheaper CSMs with babysitter.

I don't know a lot about CSM, but why not Rhinos?

 NickTheButcher wrote:

 minigun762 wrote:
I'm back and forth on whether shoving marines into a Land Raider for mobility and protection is better or worse than walking 20 MEQs up the board.

I'm thinking of Noise or Plague Marines who are Fearless with some kind of durability boost (FnP) and don't require 10 bodies in a Land Raider but I see value also with cheaper CSMs with babysitter.

I don't know a lot about CSM, but why not Rhinos?

Just trying something new, I normally use Rhinos but I'm trying to shift my army around, see if I can come up with a better solution.

Spartan and dont look back.

Col. Dash wrote:
Spartan and dont look back.

I can't stomach paying the same as the loyalist version but losing PotMS. Why?

The new Apoc book is out with the chaos version in it, not sure yet what the points are for it. Still though, carrying capacity is still worth it.

I'd say Kharn and 9x Berzerkers in Land Raider....
CHARGE!!!

Hmm I didn't know they updated the rules, I was still looking at the FW. PDF.

I very much see the value of Raiders for Berserkers who are so very reliant on that charge.