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I felt i would try a make a viable list containing my fav nid model, the carnifex.

So after a discussion yesterday, here's the list.

Hive Tyrant (260)
-Wings
-2 x TL Devourers

Hive Tyrant (260)
-Wings
-2 x TL Devourers

10 Termagaunts (50)

10 Termagaunts (50)

Tervigon (185)
-Toxin Sacs
-Second Psychic Power

Tervigon (185)
-Toxin Sacs
-Second Psychic Power

Carnifex Brood (380)
- 2 Carnifex with 2 TL Devourers

Carnifex Brood (380)
- 2 Carnifex with 2 TL Devourers

=1750

Basically everything starts on the board, that 8 monstrous creatures for people to deal with, and plenty of twin-linked Str 6 dakka to take out 2-3 flyers a turn adding in vector strikes from flyrants.

What do people think? Viable?

It depend on the army your are playing against. For example, against grey knights and their force weapons inflicting Instant Death, your MC will die quickly

You will have to keep all your carnifexes under synapse range : if you don't, they will probably fail their instinct behavior and not shoot at all

 meecham63 wrote:
It depend on the army your are playing against. For example, against grey knights and their force weapons inflicting Instant Death, your MC will die quickly

You will have to keep all your carnifexes under synapse range : if you don't, they will probably fail their instinct behavior and not shoot at all

Between the Flyrants and the Tervigons, i should be ok for Synapse.

Ok, if you are able to keep your carnifexes under control, this sould be an interesting game, I would be interested in having a battle report : I also love carnifex and usually play 2-3 of them in my armies

My thinking was i'll be spamming gaunts, for taking objectives and between the 12 Twin-linked Devourers in the list i have 72 Str 6 shots for taking out flyers or just plowing wounds into units. and i have 8 monsters, 4 of which are str 9 without smashing for dealing with armour.

i think even aircron could struggle with this as it does against any list that can kill 2-3 flyers a turn on average.

Anyone else?

This is a really unusual tyranid army list, I am not sure many people have already played with it The success will really depend on the army you will face.

Nice to know i've have thought of something away from the norm i guess.

only issue i really have is buying it then seeing a new codex nerf it.

I will say I agree, it's a little out of the norm, but I like it. Lots for firepower. You could consider taking onslaught on the Tervigons to add an additional 3-4" to your threat range.

Let us know how it plays!

If its a list you enjoy then don't worry about the outcome is what I say, have a good game with an army you like and surely that's a win in itself

maybe seperate the carnifex broods into one of two and two of one to have a easier time switching target if it dies too fast

U never vector strike Dakka Flyrants . Just never makes any sense always fly over then Dakka the flyer 12 t/l on rear armour much better than 6 t/l then d3 +1 auto hits on the side. But I love the list think I'd drop 1 of the terv's for another Dakka fex just for fun .

Thanks for all the comments guys.

I would love to fit another couple of fexes in just because but i feel what i would have to drop either both tervigons or a terv and a flyrant.

Not really a good trade off in think.

WE 've just changed our list to a flyrant plus podded dakkafexes (1500 points) and it\s tabled a few people, altho BA took us out on a revenge match with half a dozen AV13 dreadnoughts.

I think it's a really good list, I think you have to keep the two tervies for troops, my only thought is it's fairly slow, and your carnifexes will always be engaging front armour, so I wonder if it's worth dropping one, to get two in pods. But that depends on your style, and you'd probably need Hive Commander as well.

Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:
WE 've just changed our list to a flyrant plus podded dakkafexes (1500 points) and it\s tabled a few people, altho BA took us out on a revenge match with half a dozen AV13 dreadnoughts.

I think it's a really good list, I think you have to keep the two tervies for troops, my only thought is it's fairly slow, and your carnifexes will always be engaging front armour, so I wonder if it's worth dropping one, to get two in pods. But that depends on your style, and you'd probably need Hive Commander as well.

As you say, mycetic spores could be useful however the issue is what would i drop?

 mixer86 wrote:

Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:
WE 've just changed our list to a flyrant plus podded dakkafexes (1500 points) and it\s tabled a few people, altho BA took us out on a revenge match with half a dozen AV13 dreadnoughts.

I think it's a really good list, I think you have to keep the two tervies for troops, my only thought is it's fairly slow, and your carnifexes will always be engaging front armour, so I wonder if it's worth dropping one, to get two in pods. But that depends on your style, and you'd probably need Hive Commander as well.

As you say, mycetic spores could be useful however the issue is what would i drop?

Tricky, isn't it, because lots of threads like this end up "my army is like this and I suggest you do exactly the same". But I think it might be worth trying out dropping one carnifex, walking on on with the main force, and podding two in. But it's really what suits your playstyle, so it's well worth trying your existing list . Carnifexes are expensvie - when you compare them with a tervigon or yer average dreadnought it's ludicrous - so adding a pod makes it pricier still.

But when you factor in the fear factor of them dropping behind the enemy, we find it's worth it.

I play against nids regularly and all I can tell you is an Eldar shuriken list will shut this one list down fast. You may also have trouble against loota spam and footguard with max heavy wepon teams. other than that you should do well against most other list.

I do think the list is solid as is.

One thing i did consider was dropping 1 fex, giving me 190 points to spend on either elites or fast attack?

Actually, this list will bring the pain to GK. Their small model count army can't take the weight of dice from all those dev shots. Bubble wrap the heck out of your Tervigons and 'fex's, though. The only suggestion I would make is bringing in Hiveguard, pref 2x2 in place of 1 fex and TS off 1 Tervigon.

zaak wrote:
Actually, this list will bring the pain to GK. Their small model count army can't take the weight of dice from all those dev shots. Bubble wrap the heck out of your Tervigons and 'fex's, though. The only suggestion I would make is bringing in Hiveguard, pref 2x2 in place of 1 fex and TS off 1 Tervigon.

I was thinking about something like 2 x 2 hive guard.

Question is do 4 guard bring more to the board compared to a dakka fex?

I have found them to be a very valuable unit against GK. You can't rely on CC and Psy powers to beat them so you need to out-do them in mid range combat. If you play the hiveguard aggresively you can bring down things like psyrifle man dreadnoughts and storm talons carrying pallys that much easier. Their added range can really help crack open transports for you to shoot up their contents that much earlier. You don't want anything getting near you in CC. You gain 4 more wounds but loose the MC perks. You can afford to loose an extra smash attack. I would actually consider making one of those flyrants walking too. GK might not bring a lot of flyers.

i could just go for 1 unit of 3 hive guard.

leaves me with 40 points for a couple of extra psyker levels for the flyrants?