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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 02:12:20
Subject: Rolling psychic powers on both codex and general tables
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Been Around the Block
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So today someone showed me this snipit from the FAQ's online
Q: Can psychic powers be mixed and matched from the psychic disciplines and those found in the Codexes? (p418)
A: No. You may select from the psychic powers listed in the Codex as normal or swap them for a number of rolls on the
psychic disciplines tables.
He used it to say I had to choose between all on my codex table or use the general tables, meaning I can't take guide, prescience and whatever on a farseer as that uses both my codex and general tables.
I think that's wrong, but apparently others have told him otherwise. What do you all say?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 02:17:22
Subject: Rolling psychic powers on both codex and general tables
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Gavik Dross wrote:So today someone showed me this snipit from the FAQ's online
Q: Can psychic powers be mixed and matched from the psychic disciplines and those found in the Codexes? (p418)
A: No. You may select from the psychic powers listed in the Codex as normal or swap them for a number of rolls on the
psychic disciplines tables.
He used it to say I had to choose between all on my codex table or use the general tables, meaning I can't take guide, prescience and whatever on a farseer as that uses both my codex and general tables.
I think that's wrong, but apparently others have told him otherwise. What do you all say?
I highlighted the important bit. I would like to point out that if you have to choose between BRB Disciplines and Codex Disciplines, CSM psykers (with mark)do not function as they must take from both.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 02:19:37
Subject: Rolling psychic powers on both codex and general tables
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Been Around the Block
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So you're saying it only applies to old books where you but powers one at a time. What I argued at the time myself using that as evidence
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 02:25:23
Subject: Rolling psychic powers on both codex and general tables
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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If you buy/select powers from your codex (5th edition or earlier) then you either roll on Disciplines or keep your codex powers.
If you have Psychic Discipline tables (6th edition) you can mix and match disciplines as specified.
For example, a Mastery Level 3 CSM Sorcerer with a Mark of Tzeentch, must take 1-2 powers from Discipline of Tzeentch and 1-2 powers from one of the specified BRB Disciplines (for 3 powers total).
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 03:17:01
Subject: Re:Rolling psychic powers on both codex and general tables
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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I believe the Eldar codex specifically allows you to roll on both Codex and BRB tables.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 04:21:37
Subject: Re:Rolling psychic powers on both codex and general tables
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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PrinceRaven wrote:I believe the Eldar codex specifically allows you to roll on both Codex and BRB tables. Eldar Daemons and CSM codexs all allow you to do this, heck CSM and Daemons say you HAVE to do this ( iirc on CSM but daemons allows you to take only half your powers from the codex tables). Look in the wargear section it will be the paragrapth above the psyhic tables.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 09:00:35
Subject: Re:Rolling psychic powers on both codex and general tables
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PrinceRaven wrote:I believe the Eldar codex specifically allows you to roll on both Codex and BRB tables.
This is correct, but not as clear as the BRB. Where you want to go in order to help others come up to speed with the changes in psychic powers in 6E is p418 of the BRB. "Note that second and subsequent psychic powers do not have to be generated from the same psychic discipline as the Psyker's first power." The difference between psychic powers (5E and earlier) and psychic disciplines (6E) is what makes all of the difference.
The 6th edition codices are treated differently from 5th edition and earlier because GW has completely changed psychic powers in 6th edition. Any old codices that have you purchase powers much choose to either take purchased powers or roll for the appropriate number of powers on a single list. With the 6th edition codices, like eldar, you are allowed to roll on any and all lists available to that character. Being able to roll on all available lists is the benifit/pro (  ) used to offset the major con of randomly generated powers (  ).
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edited to add the BRB reference.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 09:45:30
Subject: Re:Rolling psychic powers on both codex and general tables
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Q: Can psychic powers be mixed and matched from the psychic disciplines and those found in the Codexes? (p418)
A: No. You may select from the psychic powers listed in the Codex as normal or swap them for a number of rolls on the
psychic disciplines tables.
PrinceRaven wrote:I believe the Eldar codex specifically allows you to roll on both Codex and BRB tables.
The newer 6th ed codex contains disciplines, not codex powers. Disciplines involves rolling on a chart. You'll note in the newer books that they are referred to as such.
Disciplines in a Codex can be mixed with Disciplines in the BRB just fine. It's the older powers that can't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 14:11:40
Subject: Re:Rolling psychic powers on both codex and general tables
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MarkyMark wrote:daemons allows you to take only half your powers from the codex tables A Daemon psyker may be completely BRB or completely Daemonic at PML1, 2, or 3. (Fatey, the only Daemon PML4, automatically has all the Tzeentch powers, as well as rolls from the BRB.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 15:52:52
Subject: Re:Rolling psychic powers on both codex and general tables
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Elric Greywolf wrote:MarkyMark wrote:daemons allows you to take only half your powers from the codex tables A Daemon psyker may be completely BRB or completely Daemonic at PML1, 2, or 3. (Fatey, the only Daemon PML4, automatically has all the Tzeentch powers, as well as rolls from the BRB.) Not according to page 68. If a psyker is a daemons of a particular chaos god, they may roll up to half of their powers (round fractions up) on the chart that corrseponds to their patron. Fatey is different as he doesnt roll for any tzeentch powers so that comparision is null and void. At ml1 you can take 1 power from Daemon dex or brb, at 2 powers its one power from daemon dex and 3 powers is 2 from the daemon dex.
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