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Even before the site went down, when I was on it their html was all over the place, full screen pics loading in the wrong places etc etc. Somethings going on all the same, and because of it they're really losing out.

I wonder if they didn't put the regular codex on there yet intentionally, hoping the desperate sheeple will go for the insanely priced one instead when they don't see it.

DogofWar1 wrote:
GW wanted to raise the prices on Tac squads, probably one of the most purchased items in all of 40k, but raising the prices without changing the kit would have brought outrage, so they changed the kit a small bit, so that they can say it's different, new, and better and justifies the higher price.

They've done that very thing countless times before with other kits and didn't seem to care if people were outraged or not. "Our product is the best in the woooorld!" is all the justification they've ever needed.

 Sidstyler wrote:

DogofWar1 wrote:
GW wanted to raise the prices on Tac squads, probably one of the most purchased items in all of 40k, but raising the prices without changing the kit would have brought outrage, so they changed the kit a small bit, so that they can say it's different, new, and better and justifies the higher price.

They've done that very thing countless times before with other kits and didn't seem to care if people were outraged or not. "Our product is the best in the woooorld!" is all the justification they've ever needed.

i had a GW rep point out to me that a box of gaunts was cheaper than before (This was YEARS ago, after the gaunts were split from the original two-in-one set they came in). After chuckling and pointing out that Gaunts used to be $1 each, literally $32 CAD for 16 hormagaunts and 16 termagaunts, and the price had changed to $36 for 16 of EITHER termagaunts OR Hormagaunts the customer service flatlined. They don't seem to take well to customers that have a memory of more than one week.

Adendum:
looked at the new tactical box. the combi-bolter is to be praised. I'm miffed about the rest of the box, and there's some glaring bad decisions there. And what in seven bloody hells are those 3 proto-dreadnoughts? $100??? I think I'll just grab some terminators and "true-scale" them, thank-you-very-much....

Ended up opting for a codex, a Tac squad and a Sternguard squad. All for £67, if only they'd released for their August release it would have been far more but saving up for GD, gotta love the HH.
Was sorely tempted to get an IF cover but after seeing the actual pic I decided it wasn't worth it at the price, especially when I realised that the cover was just an image from the inside of the book.
If I was a Salamander or a UM I may have been tempted but not with that boring IF cover.

Well, one Codex ordered from DS, at still ~15% off, even with P+P to add.

Don't like any of the new units, and I already have enough of old versions of the new kits for now.

I suspect I will have a lot more SG in my army in the future, but I have bills to pay, and they can wait.

One box of each power armour kit for me, but only from an online discounter.

I pounced on the generic SM Codex tonight on order!! I play BA's so I see that there were about 4 to 5 chapter dedicated codice, seeing that I'm assuming a BA Codex will be out sooner...or rather later than sooner... Yes I'm a bit impatient.

I am really looking forward to an Orc Codex.

Well, it looks like Sept 7th won't come soon enough!! I did not order any of the new Marines or vehicles, I have plenty to do as seen in my projects in my gallery... sigh.


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MAN! There is a lot of whining about GW! Why the devil?! I mean it's our hobby, if you don't like it leave it!! Play cards...

Yeah, I remember when a box of 30 Marines was $25... many many moons ago, so were many many other game companies who have all come and gone and I was left with a handful of models and empty promises. Ogre to name one... Really liked that one.

Look at it this way, we will all buy a little bit and in the time we save up for the next kit we'll have the recent purchase completed and on the table. end of

Davor wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Yeah, those LE codex prices are ridiculous.

Seriously glad I don't have a First Founding Chapter I care about enough to buy one, lol.

Since there is only 500 now instead of 2000, I think people will be paying more than $200 for one soon.

keep dreaming. youll be selling that junk for 9 bucks on ebay in a few years, probably less since they update space marines constantly.

 Kelly502 wrote:
There is a lot of whining about GW!

"If you don't like it, leave!"

 Sidstyler wrote:

 Kelly502 wrote:
There is a lot of whining about GW!

"If you don't like it, leave!"

Oh quoting me are ya... yay...

£18 for a plastic single miniature?


I could buy one of the Helldorado starter sets from Wayland games with that money and play a decent skirmish game.

Would you mind listing good online discounters for a UK buyer please? Or is that not allowed here?

 Kelly502 wrote:
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MAN! There is a lot of whining about GW! Why the devil?! I mean it's our hobby, if you don't like it leave it!! Play cards...

Yeah, I remember when a box of 30 Marines was $25... many many moons ago, so were many many other game companies who have all come and gone and I was left with a handful of models and empty promises. Ogre to name one... Really liked that one.

Look at it this way, we will all buy a little bit and in the time we save up for the next kit we'll have the recent purchase completed and on the table. end of

Agree that it's our hobby [I assume by hobby you mean 40k/Warhammer, there are other games]. I've been doing this for nearly 30 years and have been a loyal GW customer all of that time. I'm sure I'm not alone in being an avid consumer of GW products. Our reward for being loyal customers? Outrageous price hikes which stick two fingers up at people who love the whole 40k universe. Spent hundreds of hours creating a White Scars army on bikes, lovingly painted it up and want to add a themed codex? £70 please. DOUBLE the price of a standard codex for a dust jacket and gold paint on the edges of the pages.

I don't play marines so won't be buying any of these [I do really like the sculpts except for the Centurions, my favourite is the librarian with cherub]. If I wanted to buy some marines just to paint up I would get them from Forge World, who's prices actually seem reasonable in comparison and do [often far] superior sculpts.

I do however worry that new entrants to Warhammer will be put off by the prices and choose the cheaper alternatives such as computer games, and our hobby will die. It's always been a bit expensive but these prices are prohibitive. I've seen it happen. At my last gaming club the majority switched to Warmachine/Hordes mostly in response to the GW price increases/codex creep and it was impossible to get a game of 40k.

 Kelly502 wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:

 Kelly502 wrote:
There is a lot of whining about GW!

"If you don't like it, leave!"

Oh quoting me are ya... yay...

Because it's totally reasonable to reduce everyone's criticisms to whining, and not seeming to understand that instead of berating people over such opinions. You yourself are whining, and by your own logic, you really should be leaving.

Back on topic, while both the Sternguard and Tactical box set's look great, the price tag is pretty unreasonable. Even more so for the plastic HQ's, which at £18 per fig are simply ludicrous. Though I'll try and see if any of the online retailers are offering a good discount.

I've seen prices go up in many hobbies and many brands. That's not the issue. The issue is the BS and selling of .. Umm...dog extract... As gourmet chocolate. I did the math, and, what, $140 just to get the rules to play the game? Buy the full edition rules and limited edition army book and you are sitting at $240-260... And that's just the rules, and discounting DV. It's no Longer justifiably arguable that it's branding, the pricing is getting just ludicrous... That's not what *I* was getting at anyway. What I was getting at is that GW will gak into its own mouth before breathing and raving into your face expecting you to believe it was a breath mint they had. I have a huge beef with their pricing, but that isn't the deal breaker for me. It's the endless stram of BS and the treatment ofr customers like troglodytic nincmpoop expendable minions that did it for me.

So those characters are rather expensive, but the librarian is nice. It has separate legs and arms so it is easy to repose and combine with other kits.

Sethorly wrote:
Would you mind listing good online discounters for a UK buyer please? Or is that not allowed here?

Dark Sphere- http://www.darksphere.co.uk/
Triple Helix Games- http://www.triplehelixwargames.co.uk/products.php?subId=3
Gifts for Geeks- http://giftsforgeeks.org.uk/

Wayland games is also available, but it's reviews have always seemed to be mixed. http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/

If you look at the darksphere website you might smile.

I'm not sure why people are so excited a out the sternguard. £30 seems to be a lot for what you're getting. But then, I haven't seen the sprue pics, just white dwarf. I suppose 8 combiweapons may be helpful... Maybe. I remain unconvinced.

On the other hand, I might buy a new tactical squad for the extra combiweapon and mixing in with my other unassembled marines.

Vanguard seem unnecessary in my circumstances. I bought most of their relevant bits 2 years ago.

Centurions still look pants and 'arms crossed over their chests' just raises more questions.

Truth is, since I've got so many of the blood angels bits second hand, I just don't really see the need for getting any of these new releases except maybe the hunter/stalker if it ends up in 3 months time being a 'required' unit.

Apocalypse Damnos expansion and the codex seems to be all I need.

@ imposter. Not if these go like the current releases have been. If the new stuff is all coming out under "direct order only".... I haven't followed this thread or any of the other relevant N&R, but memory indicates a precedent...


Combi weapons are undervalued. Not sure about the new dex, but giving your squad melta guns or plasma guns with the ability to retain access to special ammunition for the bolters? That level of flexibility is handy, especially against an unknown opponent. The kicker is that with some clever converting, a combi weapon becomes a full-fledged specialist weapon. I'm seriously considering lifting my boycott to get my. Hands on a few sets of combi-weapons...

Sethorly wrote:
Would you mind listing good online discounters for a UK buyer please? Or is that not allowed here?

Don't see why it wouldn't be. Dark Sphere are great. Wayland's good. Those are the only two I really know of other than Total Wargamer (but, judging by the thread in discussions, this company are fething up big time).

Sethorly wrote:
Would you mind listing good online discounters for a UK buyer please? Or is that not allowed here?

http://totalwargamer.co.uk/ - this is the one I use, I think it's possibly the cheapest with 25-30% off. Shipping can be a bit slow so you need to keep on top of them.

None of the prices are worth it considering GW don't even produce the best quality minis anymore.

 poda_t wrote:
@ imposter. Not if these go like the current releases have been. If the new stuff is all coming out under "direct order only".... I haven't followed this thread or any of the other relevant N&R, but memory indicates a precedent...

Yeah, even with the discounts, the one piece plastic figures are simply too expensive to justify. Also, @ Compel;

 tyrannosaurus wrote:

Sethorly wrote:
Would you mind listing good online discounters for a UK buyer please? Or is that not allowed here?

http://totalwargamer.co.uk/ - this is the one I use, I think it's possibly the cheapest with 25-30% off. Shipping can be a bit slow so you need to keep on top of them.

They don't seem to be the best at delivering though.

Cheers. I think I'll stick with my first instincts though. Having a bunch of Blood Angels kits, there's no real need for me to get the sternguard one. Especially since I've got quite a bits box developed from 14 years, plus eBay.

 tyrannosaurus wrote:

Sethorly wrote:
Would you mind listing good online discounters for a UK buyer please? Or is that not allowed here?

http://totalwargamer.co.uk/ - this is the one I use, I think it's possibly the cheapest with 25-30% off. Shipping can be a bit slow so you need to keep on top of them.

Don't Use TWG For GW Orders!

There are waay too many people waiting for orders, spread over three threads at least, in the Discussions forum.

One guy I believe is still waiting for, or only recently received, his Eldar pre-order.

There's issues there, whether they be TWG or GW issues, can't really say, but as the consumer, that's irrelevant.

I will echo Dark Sphere (where I've already ordered my book) or Wayland. Buddy of mine swears by Firestorm Games too, but can't attest to that personally.

I waited for my Eldar codex, preordered from TotalWargamer for over 60 days before I ended up cancelling it.

I still haven't received my money back.

Anybody having trouble getting on GW's site?