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Kangodo wrote:
2. I equipped my marines with the weapons that I am most likely going to use.
For tactical marines I did something different: I already have around 35 models (more than I will ever field) so I am going to buy a tactical squad and give EVERY model a special/heavy weapon.
So now I have 35 Tactical Marines and 10 Tactical Marines with special/heavy weapons, so I can use the model that I want.

The new tactical box can only make a missile launcher and five special weapons; a gravgun, a meltagun, a plasma gun, a flamer, and ONE combi-bolter. The combi-bolter is in two parts one bolter lower and a chose of four special weapon uppers.

Dinamarth wrote:
Lysander or a Terminator on the cover of IF would of been nice.

I really dig the IF cover and his somewhat modern tactical stance. If I had the money I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Smaug wrote:

Kangodo wrote:
2. I equipped my marines with the weapons that I am most likely going to use.
For tactical marines I did something different: I already have around 35 models (more than I will ever field) so I am going to buy a tactical squad and give EVERY model a special/heavy weapon.
So now I have 35 Tactical Marines and 10 Tactical Marines with special/heavy weapons, so I can use the model that I want.

The new tactical box can only make a missile launcher and five special weapons; a gravgun, a meltagun, a plasma gun, a flamer, and ONE combi-bolter. The combi-bolter is in two parts one bolter lower and a chose of four special weapon uppers.

Could go for a dev squad on top of the tac, that would get you a lot of spare heavy weps

Smaug wrote:
The new tactical box can only make a missile launcher and five special weapons; a gravgun, a meltagun, a plasma gun, a flamer, and ONE combi-bolter. The combi-bolter is in two parts one bolter lower and a chose of four special weapon uppers.

Yeah, miscounted with those combi-parts.
But I also have 4 special weapons from other 2 sets, so in the end I still have my 10 models with special weapons.

Kangodo wrote:

2. I equipped my marines with the weapons that I am most likely going to use.
For tactical marines I did something different: I already have around 35 models (more than I will ever field) so I am going to buy a tactical squad and give EVERY model a special/heavy weapon.
So now I have 35 Tactical Marines and 10 Tactical Marines with special/heavy weapons, so I can use the model that I want.

35 Marines seems like a decent bit on paper, but I personally use 30 Tac Marines in a 1750 point game. If you see yourself wanting to play a game of that size or larger, I would recommend keeping those other 10 as a normal tac squad. If you want special weapons, buy the bits on Ebay and/or get a Devastator squad for a good array of the heavy weapons.

Just my 2 Cents.

 Compel wrote:
One of my mates got all grumpy with the RG codex cover because, "the shoulder pad is the wrong colour."

Yeah, seems GW has finally gone all in on their retcon of the RG tactical markings. RG tacs originally had green shoulder markings. Seems they've now moved to the shoulder pad having the Company Color. I've since repainted all of mine black, for fifth company. Looks better in my opinion anyways.

 NickTheButcher wrote:
35 Marines seems like a decent bit on paper, but I personally use 30 Tac Marines in a 1750 point game. If you see yourself wanting to play a game of that size or larger, I would recommend keeping those other 10 as a normal tac squad. If you want special weapons, buy the bits on Ebay and/or get a Devastator squad for a good array of the heavy weapons.
Just my 2 Cents.

That depends on what weapons you need.
I only need the ones that come in the new Tac-box, and that box is just slightly more expensive than a devestator-box with only half the models.

PS. I play Blood Angels or Ravenguard with Korvydae, so my troops are usually ASM. I really don't need that many tacs.
And our games are almost always 1500 points.

 Kanluwen wrote:

By that sentiment the Raven Guard cover should just be black with no art, the Imperial Fists should be hidden behind a giant wall, etc.

The White Scars aren't a Chapter/Legion that were just "Vroom vroom, we're bikers!". They're all about mobile warfare. Bikers play a part, but so do Razorbacks and Rhinos loaded with Tactical Marines.
They're also considered a bit "savage". I think the cover conveys that perfectly, with him having a severed Eldar(or Dark Eldar) head in one hand and the other strapped to his backpack.

The cover is ok, but most of those guys are known for certain things on the tabletop. White Scars are bikers, and their CT is all about that, so while yes, in fluff they're all about mobile warfare, on the tabletop they're all about them bikes.

They could have made WS on a bike, Raven Guard with a jump pack, IF with a ML, etc. They got the Salamanders fine, with the flamer. IH had a cybernetic leg, but maybe something more pronounced, like an arm or something would have been better, to really drive the point home. I didn't even realize the leg was cybernetic until I had seen the cover about a dozen times.

But hey, they're still cool, and they're certainly going to sell out, so it's not a big deal.

I find myself liking this release a lot more now that the official pictures are out.

The Centurions actually look pretty cool and I like the blend of tactical armour with the dreadnought feet. The only change I think might improve the look is removing the hands and replacing them with the guns, might photoshop it to see what the result is...

All the Tac Armour kits are amazing of course. I am surprised that they didn't feature all of the different armour marks given the popularity of them with FW's kits but I can live with it.

The new tank is also very nice indeed, while the stalker version looks a little odd, I love the hunter!

Minus the scary pricing I am most happy with this release!

 JB wrote:
I don't think the website is a problem.

I ordered today with no lag or timeouts at all.

As for the comment about some LE codices not selling out yet, I think that White Scars and Iron Fists will get more popular with this new codex but they are PITA to paint correctly. Also, players that are just starting them probably are not ready to drop big money on a LE codex. They would really need their cash for models.

Iron Hands and Raven Guard are very cool but I think most players will stay away from them. That's actually a good thing for fans of those chapters. They probably prefer to remain hip and unique at their FLGS.

Not going to lie, wanting to be unique is one reason I started building my Iron Hands themed army 2 years ago. Had one self declared "expert" try and argue that they were not 1st Founding because they didn't have a SC or larger blurb in the 5th Ed codex until I pointed out the list in the front of the book. It's also why I play SoB (started as Witch Hunters 5 years ago) as I have still never seen another one.

The website was horrible Friday night around 6pm... 5:58 was fine, 6pm saw the site come crashing down from everyone who wanted the LE stuff.

It took me almost three hours to secure a copy of the LE salamanders and a copy of the LE Templar codex. I would have gone for the ravenguard codex, but the cover art is pretty bland for all 5 over covers imho.

I wanted the librarian (god doe he look cool), but $30 i ridiculous for a single plastic mini. I remember when forgeworld stuff was expensive, now I can have a forgeworld terminator character for cheaper than a platic PA GW mini!

Kangodo wrote:

Smaug wrote:
The new tactical box can only make a missile launcher and five special weapons; a gravgun, a meltagun, a plasma gun, a flamer, and ONE combi-bolter. The combi-bolter is in two parts one bolter lower and a chose of four special weapon uppers.

Yeah, miscounted with those combi-parts.
But I also have 4 special weapons from other 2 sets, so in the end I still have my 10 models with special weapons.

I didn't want you to feel ripped-off. I'm thinking of going with the sternguard set as it has one each of the special weapons and two combi-weapons in each type/ configuration. So twelve special weapons and two heavies to mix in with some of the other tactical squads I still have unassamblied.

I'm thinking they could of made that new chaplain come with the LE codices, would of been awesome.

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Dinamarth wrote:
I'm thinking they could of made that new chaplain come with the LE codices, would of been awesome.

I'd be happy if they would give a free download with the LE's.

I'd be happy if my Strike Force, which includes the Resuvian Command Squad box... actually came with the Chaplain. Customer service rep just said that model is replaced with a Captain in the Strike-Force bundle. :-p

Boooo. :-p I've been "playing" 40k for one day, and GW is already trying to get me to rebuy a whole unit-box, just for one new model. :-p

Oh well, i'll probably just get one Sternguard Veteran box, so I can combine it with some of my many Tactical Marines now to make more diverse weapon options.



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I'd be happy if my Strike Force, which includes the Resuvian Command Squad box... actually came with the Chaplain. Customer service rep just said that model is replaced with a Captain in the Strike-Force bundle. :-p

Boooo. :-p I've been "playing" 40k for one day, and GW is already trying to get me to rebuy a whole unit-box, just for one new model. :-p

Oh well, i'll probably just get one Sternguard Veteran box, so I can combine it with some of my many Tactical Marines now to make more diverse weapon options.

Looks like the codexes are selling. Imperial fists in now sold out on the US site.

I think that although it would be more fluffy to have the like a white scar biker, or something like that I think they really wanted to go with the tactical squad member theme for the LE.

Personally I really like it.

Notice there is a lack of information on grav weapons.

They wound on whatever the targets armor save is ap2

There is
Pistol
Gun - Salvo 2/3 range 18
Heavy grav salvo 3/5 range 24

Can command squads still take plasma guns?

Jamo wrote:
Can command squads still take plasma guns?

Yes.

The Command Squad contains enough parts to make 1 Space Marine sergeant; 1 apothecary; 1 company champion; 1 company standard bearer; and 1 Veteran armed with either flamer, meltagun, or plasma gun.

Dinamarth wrote:

Jamo wrote:
Can command squads still take plasma guns?

Yes.

The Command Squad contains enough parts to make 1 Space Marine sergeant; 1 apothecary; 1 company champion; 1 company standard bearer; and 1 Veteran armed with either flamer, meltagun, or plasma gun.

Cool, cheers, thought I read a rumor that said nO to special weapons somewhere. Are you sure?

Yeah, says so on GWs site.

Of course, doh, thanks

All these people buying the different cover $115 codex's (I refuse to call them whatever title GW is giving them) are truly a baffling group of individuals. I just don't get it.

Ultramarines, Salamanders, Imperial Fists, and Successors are all sold out.

2000/3500 limited editions, at the minimum, are sold.

Still glad that I got the normal version, instead of the Ultramarine one.

 Harriticus wrote:
All these people buying the different cover $115 codex's (I refuse to call them whatever title GW is giving them) are truly a baffling group of individuals. I just don't get it.

If you play SM, its the book you look at every time you play. Its also kinda cool to have a book that matches your army right down to the color scheme... I didn't get a LE, but I certainly "get" the ones who did.

DogofWar1 wrote:
IH had a cybernetic leg, but maybe something more pronounced, like an arm or something would have been better, to really drive the point home. I didn't even realize the leg was cybernetic until I had seen the cover about a dozen times.

How many times did you have to look until you noticed the cybernetic arm?

Any more updates from 40k radio?

I thought they were having a September 1st show, but I can't get on their website to listen to it.

 Lobukia wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
All these people buying the different cover $115 codex's (I refuse to call them whatever title GW is giving them) are truly a baffling group of individuals. I just don't get it.

If you play SM, its the book you look at every time you play. Its also kinda cool to have a book that matches your army right down to the color scheme... I didn't get a LE, but I certainly "get" the ones who did.

I understand wanting a limited edition because it stands out from the crowd. I didn't go for it though since the cover art for all seven limited editions is also inside the regular codex. Each image is the centerpiece for each of those chapter's section in the codex. So you could just make a copy and create your own dustcover if you want to see your chapter on front. I guess you still get the bookmark and gilded pages but is that really worth it?