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 Blacksails wrote:
IShoot single ordnance missile, then PotMS the Bolt cannon, and the rules for the independent turret side guns means they can always fire and don't count towards the total number of weapons fired, so long as the vehicle is eligible to fire anything, which it is.

The independent turret rule lets each turret fire separately and not count towards the weapon limit, but it doesn't say anything about firing at full BS. If you fire a hellstrike missile the independent turrets fire at BS 1. And it's arguable whether POTMS allows you to override the "snap shots only" rule. IMO it doesn't.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
IShoot single ordnance missile, then PotMS the Bolt cannon, and the rules for the independent turret side guns means they can always fire and don't count towards the total number of weapons fired, so long as the vehicle is eligible to fire anything, which it is.

The independent turret rule lets each turret fire separately and not count towards the weapon limit, but it doesn't say anything about firing at full BS. If you fire a hellstrike missile the independent turrets fire at BS 1.

Yeah, I'm starting to lean that way too. It was a nice thought though.

 Shandara wrote:
They are probably thinking Flyers work like Super-heavy flyers which aren't affected by Ordnance penalties.

Also..
Compare to the Avenger Strike Fighter at 150 pts naked, which only has AV12 on the front, BS3 and has to pay a lot for the weapons. And only 2 HP and can't hover.

Actually Avenger has 3 HP, check Fall of orpheus.

 smurfORnot wrote:
Actually Avenger has 3 HP, check Fall of orpheus.

That was a typo, it was accidentally swapped with the HP for the Thunderbolt. It's back to the expected 2 HP in IA3.

ashen circle dance troop are out to buy now folks!

i'm not overly impressed by the paint job on the new kakophoni - seems a little bland for EC to me

How has no one posted these Ashen Circle guys yet? Dakka I am disappoint

Serving alongside the Destroyers of the Word Bearers Legion, the Ashen Circle was a unique formation created for a unique purpose; the destruction of culture, learning and faith. These Space Marines were iconoclasts, charged beyond the battlefield with hunting down works of false doctrine and those who purveyed it, consigning both to destruction and eradicating flame.

The Word Bearers Legion Ashen Circle, designed by Steve Whitehead, contains five multi-part resin models. Each model is armed with a hand flamer and a vicious axe-rake, and comes equipped with jump packs. This set is available to pre-order now and will be despatched from Thursday 31st October.

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I love the whole concept of these guys, mostly because my mother is a librarian.

They look cool but they just have the most goofy stances

Wow, the detail on those guys is sick. I hate the Word Bearers but those guys look good.

The way the level of detail and quality is progressing, I am expecting nothing but pure awesome for the men from Nocturne.

They look quite nice but a bit too much like iron warriors.

No interest in Word Bearers but those guys are stunning, why do you keep doing this to me Forge World?

 Ouze wrote:

I love the whole concept of these guys, mostly because my mother is a librarian.

Her attempted filibuster against the the Affordable Nikea Act was a thing of beauty to behold.

Truly the Emperor is the greatest monster since Obama.

Or something.


Dig the visors especially, oddly I think these would possibly look better in the crimson colour scheme.

Is a lovely concept for a unit though.

... not that kind of librarian.

Hahahhahaahahah, the post ^^^


I would personally buy them just to do some kit bashing , though I dislike the helmets butsome of their legs are pretty dynamic. The goofy ones might come in handy for some jester marines or smthing.

Those are beautiful, and I think the Word Bearerers are dicks.

Reposition the arms and you have superhuman knee to the nuts , that's one way to get the emperors children's attention.

Or a captain falcon.

 Ouze wrote:
... not that kind of librarian.

Your mother has psychic powers? Does she know Divination? That power is totally OP!

If they weren't so WB specific i might've gotten some, but with amount of stuff I've yet to touch I can't justify something that would require such extensive work.

Still, underslung hand flamers are ing cool and like everyone else I think the detail is outstanding. I'd be curious to see them in their traitorous red and silver.

SickSix wrote:I am expecting nothing but pure awesome for the men from Nocturne.

I hope so... Good Lord I really hope so!

If this is the quality of the WB Pyroclasts (IIRC, the Ashen Circle are Pyroclasts - ie. Destroyers with flamers), then I can't wait to see how the Salamanders Pyroclasts are gonna look - pure awsomesauce I reckon

Got a note from FW saying that the next HH book has shipped. Anyone got theirs yet?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Got a note from FW saying that the next HH book has shipped. Anyone got theirs yet?

Yep got mine yesterday

What are the AdMech guys like? The Myrmidons?

Given the Word Bearers love for burning books, It's kind of perplexing that Magnus and Lorgar were friends.

I'm not a fan of those Ashen Circle guys. The Helmets just seem off. I think the Gorget is too large, and has too much going on. Perhaps it's the colour scheme...

So myrmidons come in two flavours:

Myrmidon secutors
-stern guard profile with +1bs,+1t,+1w and -2in.
-3+,5++ save
-power axe, frag and Krak grenades standard.
-must choose two ranged weapons and can fire both.
-choice of maxim Bolter, volkite charger, graviton gun, iras cleanser and phased plasma fusil.
-May buy same twice and don't twin-link.
-relentless and lumbering advance.
-squad is 3-10

Myrmidon destructors
-same profile as above
-power fist instead of power axe
-must choose one weapon from following list
-volkite culverin, photon thruster cannon, irradiation engine or conversion Beamer.
-relentless and lumbering
-preferred enemy everything
-unit size 3-10

Awesome, thank you. Looking forward to those.

The robots (or robot) that are in there. Lots of options (and maybe different types?) or just the single one they've released?

There are entries for the following

Hq
Magos dominus/archmagos
Elites
Engineer auxilla
Myrmidon secutors
Troops
Thallax cohort
Castellax battle automata
Tech thrall adsecullaris
Fast attack
Crusade fleet support wing(lightning/avenger/storm eagle)
Heavy support
Myrmidon destructors

Thallax look pretty much as before, castellax have a couple of weapon options.

"Tech thrall adsecullaris "

Ooooh!

They aren't that exciting basically a unit if poorly equipped 'mans' that can be made fearless for a flesh wall. Choice of either las locks, shotguns or heavy chain blades and can't be bought as the compulsory troop units.

i'm hoping they pull there fingers out soon on the special weapons so i can start sticking them together and painting the buggers (thallax x 12)

Was that additional options on the mauler pattern bolter on the castellax or just the hand mounted weapons?

im out of the country + the books been delivered home = broken morale badgermeister

Any castellax can swap out mauler for a multi melta or dark fire cannon. Bolsters can be swapped for flamers. Shock chargers may be upgraded to power blades or siege wrecker.