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Hello, Iam thinking of making a Blood angles army that can dish out alot of damange in hand to hand.. so here is what i have come up with, thank you for your time.

HQ
reclusiarch 130

Elites

sanguin priest 75
-power weapon

sanguin priest 75
-power weapon

troops

9 assult marines 212
-melta
-power weapon
-rhino

9 assult marines 212
-melta
-power weapon
-rhino


10 sniper souts 180
-cammo cloaks
-misile launcher

12 death company 420
-12 power weapons

dedicated transport

landraider crusader 250 (death company and reclusiarch rides in here)

fast attack
2 land speeders 180
-assult cannons.

-baal predator 145
-heavy bolter sponsons

Heavy sypport

predator 175
-lascannon
-lascannon sponsons

predator 175
-lascannon
-lascannon sponsons



1999

Criticism is welcome.

Get multimeltas on the speeders. Or better yet, make them FNP attack bikes.

I would drop the sponsons on the BAAL and give the Reclusiarch terminator armour, if your not going to give the DC jump packs(which i recomend more) and take the slightly cheaper but drastically more awesome landraider redeemer(fits the blood angels better anyway).


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also the cost for you Priest are wrong... im assuming your giving them jump packs so the price is 90 pts eachok noticed you put the assault squads in rhinos, dont do that either drop pod or jump packs(deep strike them)



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1 more thing i noticed is if you want the reclusiarch to ride with the death company you will have to drop one of them(two if he has terminator armour) which should free up enough points for a thunder hammer in that squad.

If that's a dakka Baal, why drop the sponsons?

 jackblg wrote:
Hello, Iam thinking of making a Blood angles army that can dish out alot of damange in hand to hand.. so here is what i have come up with, thank you for your time.
i saw a bunch of things wrong and it would be easier to fix it this way.
HQ
reclusiarch 130
based off your DC give him terminator armour
Elites

sanguin priest 75
-power weapon
give him a jump pack
sanguin priest 75
-power weapon
give him a jump pack
troops

9 assult marines 212
-melta
-power weapon
-rhino
rhinos on assault sqauds are bad, jump pack or drop pod(pref jump pack and still deepstrike, also get your last marine if you do jump packs
9 assult marines 212
-melta
-power weapon
-rhino
rhinos on assault sqauds are bad, jump pack or drop pod(pref jump pack and still deepstrike, also get your last marine if you do jump packs

10 sniper souts 180
-cammo cloaks
-misile launcher
Looks good
12 death company 420
-12 power weapons
you can't fit your death company and chaplain in the land raider with 12 models
dedicated transport

landraider crusader 250 (death company and reclusiarch rides in here)
get a redeemer fits the BA better and is 10 points cheeper
fast attack
2 land speeders 180
-assult cannons.
love me some assault cannons

-baal predator 145
-heavy bolter sponsons
Drop your sponsons
Heavy sypport

predator 175
-lascannon
-lascannon sponsons
not a fan of normal preds i would take another BAAL, and maybe a vidicator

predator 175
-lascannon
-lascannon sponsons
not a fan of normal preds i would take another BAAL, and maybe a vidicator


1999

Criticism is welcome.

I actually think the assault cannon is a rather poor weapon for the BA. Unlike the Eldar, we can't mass STR 6 at all. Get multi meltas for anti tank work.

Lascannon preds definitely have their uses. I actually find them far more useful than Baals in many situations. Baals often get dropped from my lists completely. Again, assault cannons are not that efficacious in the amounts and delivery systems we get.

For the BAAL it should be moving to much for the sponsons to even be fired.(its fast so it can move 12 inches and still fire the turret)

And assualt cannons are arguably the best weapon in the game. They can deal with anything. while its not as likely you can take out AV 14s with them. the only problem is 24" range.


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it also out flanks

I think you've undercosted the preds by 5pts. 90+45+65. Alwaysrun assault marines with packs!

 Lemartes12 wrote:
For the BAAL it should be moving to much for the sponsons to even be fired.(its fast so it can move 12 inches and still fire the turret)

And assualt cannons are arguably the best weapon in the game. They can deal with anything. while its not as likely you can take out AV 14s with them. the only problem is 24" range.


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it also out flanks

Assault cannons are assuredly NOT the best weapons in the game. 24" range alone prevents that. I find them to be VERY meh. Rending is incredibly unreliable, unless you are Eldar shooting dozens of shuriken shots.

Baal can move 6" and unload everything. That's the true strength of fast, not moving 12".

Here are some tipps from my side.

 jackblg wrote:
Hello, Iam thinking of making a Blood angles army that can dish out alot of damange in hand to hand.. so here is what i have come up with, thank you for your time.

HQ
reclusiarch 130
Ok -> Single HQ with T4 and only 3+ isn't that strong, adding the fact that it can be singled out in challenges. Still has a nice synergy with DC. I don't know if putting im in TDA is worth it.

Elites

sanguin priest 75
-power weapon
-> Jump Pack!

sanguin priest 75
-power weapon
-> Jump Pack!

troops

9 assult marines 212
-melta
-power weapon
-rhino

->get rid of the Rhin,o use the jumppacks, add a 10th marine and give them two special weapons (my choice would be melta, but I think it depends on your meta)

9 assult marines 212
-melta
-power weapon
-rhino

->get rid of the Rhino, use the jumppacks , add a 10th marine and give them two special weapons (my choice would be melta, but I think it depends on your meta)

10 sniper souts 180
-cammo cloaks
-misile launcher

-> I don't think they fit that well in this list, but since you're low on scoring units, they're cheap and might help in that regard.

12 death company 420
-12 power weapons
-> I'd recommend the bolter + PW, since overall it usually nets more wounds than 2CC weapons. Taking them with jumppacks is far to expansive from my point of view, but your taking a LRC which isn't cheap either

dedicated transport

landraider crusader 250 (death company and reclusiarch rides in here)
-> quite a big point sink. I wouldn't recommend a single LR list, since you have to expect that it'll get shoot to piece early on. I prefer droppods to deliver the DC into the frontlines, although they'd have to survive a round of shooting. If you prefer the Landraider I'd keep the crusader (it HAS enough transportation capability for your list, and the range of the flametemplates of the redemeer really hurt it's usefullness).


fast attack
2 land speeders 180
-assult cannons.
-> overall ok, could be swapped out for bikes or get a different loadout, but depending on your opponents list they a solid choice.

-baal predator 145
-heavy bolter sponsons
-> I'd keep the sponsons, and probably outflank it.

Heavy sypport

predator 175
-lascannon
-lascannon sponsons
-> To expensive for what they achieve. Haven't seen them perform well at all, but it might be my bad luck. Since they're some underachiever from my POV, I'd swap them out for additional baals. BA Vindicators (->fast!) also should be quite neat, altough I've yet to field them.

predator 175
-lascannon
-lascannon sponsons
-> To expensive for what they achieve. Haven't seen them perform well at all, but it might be my bad luck. Since they're some underachiever from my POV, I'd swap them out for additional baals. BA Vindicators (->fast!) also should be quite neat, altough I've yet to field them.

1999

Criticism is welcome.

Overall your list should be ok with a few tweaks, most important get rid of the rhinos. With only 30 scoring bodys/wounds you're a little bit low in this regard for 2k pts. You shouldn't expect this list to be serioulsy competitve since you'd be handing out some kill points pretty easily (few/no alpha strike capabilites for first blood, HQ not very tough to kill, low body count on scoring units). The currenlty strong lists (e.g. tau + eldar) will tear your mech apart in few rounds.
Nonetheless this list should be fun to play (e.g. seeing the face of your opponent when the DC assaults his lines with the reclusiarch -> reroll to hit & to wound, usually hitting on 3+, strength 5(4) is quite nice) and fits the overall theme of the BA quite nice

Just my humble opinion.

Edith says:
Forgot sth:
Pray that you don't have to go against fliers of any kind. BA (without Allies) currently don't really have codex options beyond ADL / Stormraven...

LiamStormblade wrote:
Here are some tipps from my side.

 jackblg wrote:
Hello, Iam thinking of making a Blood angles army that can dish out alot of damange in hand to hand.. so here is what i have come up with, thank you for your time.

HQ
reclusiarch 130
Ok -> Single HQ with T4 and only 3+ isn't that strong, adding the fact that it can be singled out in challenges. Still has a nice synergy with DC. I don't know if putting im in TDA is worth it.

Elites

sanguin priest 75
-power weapon
-> Jump Pack!

sanguin priest 75
-power weapon
-> Jump Pack!

troops

9 assult marines 212
-melta
-power weapon
-rhino

->get rid of the Rhin,o use the jumppacks, add a 10th marine and give them two special weapons (my choice would be melta, but I think it depends on your meta)

9 assult marines 212
-melta
-power weapon
-rhino

->get rid of the Rhino, use the jumppacks , add a 10th marine and give them two special weapons (my choice would be melta, but I think it depends on your meta)

10 sniper souts 180
-cammo cloaks
-misile launcher

-> I don't think they fit that well in this list, but since you're low on scoring units, they're cheap and might help in that regard.

12 death company 420
-12 power weapons
-> I'd recommend the bolter + PW, since overall it usually nets more wounds than 2CC weapons. Taking them with jumppacks is far to expansive from my point of view, but your taking a LRC which isn't cheap either

dedicated transport

landraider crusader 250 (death company and reclusiarch rides in here)
-> quite a big point sink. I wouldn't recommend a single LR list, since you have to expect that it'll get shoot to piece early on. I prefer droppods to deliver the DC into the frontlines, although they'd have to survive a round of shooting. If you prefer the Landraider I'd keep the crusader (it HAS enough transportation capability for your list, and the range of the flametemplates of the redemeer really hurt it's usefullness).


fast attack
2 land speeders 180
-assult cannons.
-> overall ok, could be swapped out for bikes or get a different loadout, but depending on your opponents list they a solid choice.

-baal predator 145
-heavy bolter sponsons
-> I'd keep the sponsons, and probably outflank it.

Heavy sypport

predator 175
-lascannon
-lascannon sponsons
-> To expensive for what they achieve. Haven't seen them perform well at all, but it might be my bad luck. Since they're some underachiever from my POV, I'd swap them out for additional baals. BA Vindicators (->fast!) also should be quite neat, altough I've yet to field them.

predator 175
-lascannon
-lascannon sponsons
-> To expensive for what they achieve. Haven't seen them perform well at all, but it might be my bad luck. Since they're some underachiever from my POV, I'd swap them out for additional baals. BA Vindicators (->fast!) also should be quite neat, altough I've yet to field them.

1999

Criticism is welcome.

Overall your list should be ok with a few tweaks, most important get rid of the rhinos. With only 30 scoring bodys/wounds you're a little bit low in this regard for 2k pts. You shouldn't expect this list to be serioulsy competitve since you'd be handing out some kill points pretty easily (few/no alpha strike capabilites for first blood, HQ not very tough to kill, low body count on scoring units). The currenlty strong lists (e.g. tau + eldar) will tear your mech apart in few rounds.
Nonetheless this list should be fun to play (e.g. seeing the face of your opponent when the DC assaults his lines with the reclusiarch -> reroll to hit & to wound, usually hitting on 3+, strength 5(4) is quite nice) and fits the overall theme of the BA quite nice

Just my humble opinion.

Edith says:
Forgot sth:
Pray that you don't have to go against fliers of any kind. BA (without Allies) currently don't really have codex options beyond ADL / Stormraven...

Hi, there's a reason iam not deepstriking the blood angles, my local gaming club has mostly tau and variation's of spacemarines, which most space marine players taking at least a vindicator. luckily only 2 people have fliers (both stormravens).

The Resclusiarch is there to be a cheap hq, and mostly to make the deathcompany more scary.

the jump packs would make the sanguinary priests more expensive than the rhino's.... so thats why i took 2 rhinos instead of jumppack's.

assault marines are basicly another choppy unit, so i figured again.. rhino's are cheaper than the jump packs on the priests...

Snipers dont really have much perpose apart from sitting on my hope objective and taking pop shots at things that stray too close.

I do agree bolter would be better, but iam going for as many attacks as i can get.. and i think im going to be getting alot on the charge..

The Landraider crusader is a points sink, i will admit, but i think its going to be a fun thing to take, and in some games if iam feling brave i can deep strike it.. although that could go horribly wrong.

Yeah, iam also not sure on the land speeders,, assult cannons are quite fun tho.. XD

And I have yet to try using any version of the predetors yet... so Iam not sure on them... still its nice anti tank stuff

if you deep strike in you can use your melta guns to pop their heavy tanks/shoot up their infantry lines. use what works for you but i have never had my BA work out for me unless they hit hard and fast.