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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot




Murrieta, CA

I've been running a biker list since 5th Edition and my lists has received many buffs given the transition to 6th. The advent of helldrakes led me to include a second captain in its previous incarnation, but I think a whole new level of potential has been presented with the new marine codex.

HQ- Chapter Master 265pts
+Artificer Armor
+Thunder Hammer
+Shield Eternal
+Space Marine Bike
+Auspex
+Digital Weapons

HQ- Chapter Master 260pts
+Artificer Armor
+Burning Blade
+Storm Shield
+Space Marine Bike
+Auspex
+Digital Weapons
+Meltabombs

Troops- Bike Squad 288pts
+5x Extra Bikes
+2x Grav Guns
+Veteran Sergeant
+Veteran Sergeant Power Fist
+Attack Bike
+Attack Bike Multi-Melta

Troops- Bike Squad 267pts
+4x Extra Bikes
+2x Grav Guns
+Veteran Sergeant
+Veteran Sergeant Power Fist
+Attack Bike
+Attack Bike Multi-Melta

Troops- Bike Squad 267pts
+4x Extra Bikes
+2x Grav Guns
+Veteran Sergeant
+Veteran Sergeant Power Fist
+Attack Bike
+Attack Bike Multi-Melta

Fast Attack- Stormtalon Gunship 145pts
+Typhoon Missile Launcher

Fast Attack- Stormtalon Gunship 145pts
+Typhoon Missile Launcher

Heavy Support- Thunderfire Cannon 100pts

Heavy Support- Vindicator 130pts
+Dozer Blades

Heavy Support- Vindicator 130pts
+Dozer Blades

[1997pts]
[10kp]

The advent of Chapter Masters allowing mounted assault allows for me to use the masters as legitimate beatsticks rather than merely tanking ability for the unit. The new relics add some serious kill power and durability to them as well. The BB master use to be a relic blade captain, and the TH/SS captain is now a 4 wound EW beast sometimes referred to by my friends as bikesander. This allows the HQ's to tear down threats like MC's with impunity.

The addition of grav weapons allows for some serious firepower on my bikes (the list used to by 2x melta in 2 squads and 2x plasma in one). Grav weapons are superior to bolters against all but Low toughness 5+ or worse save targets. They can also rip vehicles apart from a greater threat range than melta could.

The addition of White Scars Chapter tactics makes this list even more brutal. The number 1 killer of my bikes in the last codex was dangerous terrain, this is now a thing of the past. Additional the Hammer of Wrath buffs add some extra hitting power to the assault. Improved Jink Saves allow me to close with shooting enemies at the rapid rate as well. To top it all off we now have hit and run on all of our units (Hit and Run Thunderfire Cannon does make me chuckle a little). H&R on the bikes almost replaces the loss of combat tactics (not that I can imagine many people will be in a rush to get into assault with the new captains as well).

Any thoughts or Ideas would be greatly appreciated.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/09/09 19:31:48


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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot




Murrieta, CA

No interest or comments at all?

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Infiltrating Broodlord





Indiana

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it is interesting and I would like to know how this list would lay out!

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Bounding Assault Marine




St Louis, MO

I think it looks downright awesome. A fast and brutal combo. I have a feeling that the uber bike CM is going to become a common sight. I'm toying with the idea of taking a similar build for an IH CM. 6+ fnp and iwnd. Gives me goosebumps man..

Also I really like the idea of grav weapons for handling those "oh sh*t" units. The only critique I'd say is I think 2 TFC would work better than one. I'd use the saved points to replace the other vindi the a LC pred. But again, I think it looks pretty solid.
   
Made in us
Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot




Murrieta, CA

If I had a second thunderfire I would surely use it. Vindicators really need to be taken in pairs to work.

Space Marines (Anything but BA or GK): 6k
Tau: 3k

-Thaylen 
   
Made in us
Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot




Murrieta, CA

Got a few games under my belt with this list. It runs pretty fast and can put some pressure on the enemies. The vindicators eat a bunch of the aggro that would be pointed at my bikes. I can even use the third bike squad to give a cover save to the vindis. I have a game vs a eldar/dark eldar guy tonight. Should stress test the list against a stronger codex.

Thus far the list has only faced, Imperial Fists SM, BA/GK, Crons, and Trip Vendetta guard. It has won vs all of them. But only the trip vendetta player really equals me in skill (not trying to boast, I've just been playing a little longer than some of the players).

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/19 09:54:09


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Tau: 3k

-Thaylen 
   
Made in gb
Infiltrating Naga





England

not sure where your getting bikers as troops from o-o haven't seen any in the space marine codex, that said I guess your running white scars. But why are you making your chapter masters run into battle when the rest of your army is on bikes and land speeders.

Pretty sure turn one the non-eternal would fall prey to a wayward las or something to pop it as theres no units either of them can join.

The other one would be ignored after that so if you're lucky he might reach the enemy lines by the end of the battle that said if he gets too close being purely by himself he could just wind up being killed by mass fire / a few grav rounds.

I'm not feeling much of a chapter master beat down, if it were to play against me I would likely choose to ignore them entirely because they're walking apparently.

   
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Boosting Space Marine Biker




^ reread the list. Also reread the codex.

Solid Fists 2000 wip 
   
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Infiltrating Naga





England

Could you reference me the the page in the codex for the bikes for troops, I just can't seem to find it.

And the space marine part before the bike must have thrown me off, not used to seeing that before bikes lol.

   
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Boosting Space Marine Biker




Chapter masters and captains upgrade bike squads of at least 5 to troops


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Sorry at work at the mo don't have my codex

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/19 12:07:37


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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife





fareham, hants, uk

Jamo wrote:
Chapter masters and captains upgrade bike squads of at least 5 to troops


This, providing the CM or captain takes a bike himself.

it listed under the CM and captain entries in the army list section at the back.

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