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2013/09/11 14:58:01
Subject: World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
Well, following the conversations in the various Syria threads (and the fact that I've too much time on my hands) I wondered what it would be like if instead of killing innocent people and soldiers to settle their disputes, world leaders battled each other to settle disputes!
Therefore, I have came up with the following Warhammer fantasy profiles for Obama and Putin, which I believe does justice to these great leaders. . All I need is somebody to roll the dice and tell me who wins!
Tell me what you think, I may make the model versions one day. And of course, feel free to come up with your own world leader profiles
If this thread goes wrong, blame Frazz!
Anyway, here goes:
Barack Obama
M4 WS6 BS4 S4 T4 W3 I5 A4 Ld10
Weapons, Equipment, special rules etc:
Obama carries George Washington's wig, a First lady, Patton's Pistols, Grant's sword, the declaration of independence, and wears Jackson's armour
Special Rules:
Commander in Chief - Such is the aura that extends from an American president, all American units are inspired to greater feats and may use Obama's leadership if they are within 18 inches, rather than the usual 12 inches.
Executive order: For those times when the Supreme Court and Congress won't play ball. Once per game, any American unit on the table may use the executive order to re-roll failed hits in close combat, a failed difficult terrain test, or a failed break test.
$600 Billion dollar defence budget. The Americans spend more on defence than anybody else, a fact that they are rather proud of. Therefore, all American units have access to better equipment. All American units in Obama's army gain +1 WS
No better friend, but…
Despite their close friendship and alliance in various conflicts over the years, the British still have the nagging feeling that Obama doesn't like them that much. Any friendly British unit may not use Obama's leadership.
George Washington's wig - said to belong to the legendary founding president of America, the wig weaves a potent spell of protection, granting the bearer a 4+ ward save, which is increased to 3+ when fighting British units.
First Lady- these hard drinking gals have long been loyal stalwarts at any president's side. Don't make them mad! Once per game, Obama may activate his first lady for a +2 attack bonus.
Patton's pistols. Only a cheap, New Orleans pimp uses pearl handed revolvers! Once per game, Obama may make a shooting attack with the following profile: Range 12 inches, shots D6, S4 armour piercing, flaming attacks.
Grant's sword. This mythical, shrieking blade, is sharper than a bald eagle's claws and seems to harbour an enmity against grey troops. The sword grants its bearer flaming attacks and armour piercing. Strangely, the sword adds +2 WS to Obama's profile if he fighting an enemy unit wearing grey uniforms.
Jackson's armour: Said to belong to old hickory himself, this armour is as tough as hickory and grants its bearer a 3+ armour save.
Declaration of independence: The day America turned its back on the greatest nation on earth, preserved forever in black and white, though they say otherwise. The declaration grants Obama Magic resistance 3.
Vladimir Putin
M4 WS7 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I5 A5 Ld 10
Weapons, Equipment, special rules etc:
Vlad rides a white horse, carries the order of Lenin, Stalin's vodka bottle, a Russian bear pelt, and the sword of Ivan the Terrible
Dark arts: Years of KGB training have honed Vlad's fighting skills to deadly effect. Vlad has the killing blow special rule
You have failed me for the last time: Vlad doesn't like failure, not at all. Any Russian unit that breaks within 12 inches of Vlad, suffers D6 S4 hits and immediately rallies.
Human rights? Meh!
Vlad's army may ally with any warhammer army except Americans (unless the scenario has Germans as the enemy)
Mother Russia: We've seen off Napoleon, we've seen off Hitler. What the Russian soldier lacks in equipment, he more than makes up for in fighting ability. All Russian units in Vlad's army are Stubborn.
Bare chest: Many an enemy has been intimidated by Vlad's masculinity. Any enemy unit fighting Vlad has -1 WS for the first round of combat
Russian Bear Pelt. Once per game, the bear pelt adds +3 to Vlad's toughness, the bear pelt also grants Vlad a ward save of 5+ which is increased to 2+ against flaming attacks.
Stalin's Vodka bottle: This bottle renders Vlad immune to fear, terror, and panic.
The Order of Lenin: Vlad's prized possession grants him magic resistance 3
Ivan the Terrible's sword: This rusted blade has the uncanny knack of finding an enemy's weak spots and grants Vlad +1 to hit in the first round of combat.
The white horse: Vlad's only childhood friend. The White horse is a demonic steed with the following profile: M12 WS4 BS4 S5 T5 W1 I6 A3 Ld10
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2013/09/11 15:05:54
Subject: World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/09/11 15:33:19
Subject: World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
notprop wrote: Thematically I feel Putin should be some sort of Goblin.
Stalin's Vodka bottle should of course be Yeltsins Vodka Bottle - the same effect but its empty so has zero use except as an improvised weapon..
True, very true concerning the bottle, but I see Vlad as more a black orc warboss than a goblin. If you faced Vlad in battle, would you be intimated by the bare chest!
Got one for David Cameron as well, if this thread keeps going!
Forgot to add this to Obama's profile:
Air Horse One
M10 WS4 BS4 S4 T4 W1 I5 A3 Ld8
Air horse one treats all terrain as open ground. Due to it's superior breeding, and tax payer funded excess, air horse one suffers no movement penalty for barding or Jackson's armour.
Air Horse One may move over friendly and enemy units as if it were a flyer, but may not end its movement on top of an enemy unit unless part of a charge move.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2013/09/11 15:42:33
Subject: World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
You're either really really good, or have thought about this way too much...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/09/11 15:44:51
Subject: World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
Frazzled wrote: You're either really really good, or have thought about this way too much...
Today, I have too much time on my hands, but in all honesty, it took me 5mins to think this up. Honestly!
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2013/09/11 17:27:52
Subject: Re:World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
Kim Jong-un rides an Imaginary Unicorn, is followed by a Swallow, and wields a Golf Club.
Imaginary Unicorn: The Imaginary Unicorn is a Barded Elven Steed, but as it is Imaginary it provides no benefit. but it looks really cool(if you believe hard enough!)
Swallow: The Swallow follows Kim around. If he should die, the Swallow will sing a sad song. All Terrain features on the field immediately collapse in sorrow. all buildings collapse into a heap of rubble, replace all terrain with areas of Dangerous Terrain.
Golf Club: Kim Jong-un is quite a shot, and has a wicked punch. The Golf Club is a melee weapon that grants Kim +2 strength and has the Armor Piercing rule. It may also be used as a ranged weapon with a range of 30" Str4, armor piercing, Quick to Fire, and Hole in One*.
*Hole in One: ranged attacks with this weapon automatically hit and have the sniper special rule.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Kim Jong-un rides an Imaginary Unicorn, is followed by a Swallow, and wields a Golf Club.
Imaginary Unicorn: The Imaginary Unicorn is a Barded Elven Steed, but as it is Imaginary it provides no benefit. but it looks really cool(if you believe hard enough!)
Swallow: The Swallow follows Kim around. If he should die, the Swallow will sing a sad song. All Terrain features on the field immediately collapse in sorrow. all buildings collapse into a heap of rubble, replace all terrain with areas of Dangerous Terrain.
Golf Club: Kim Jong-un is quite a shot, and has a wicked punch. The Golf Club is a melee weapon that grants Kim +2 strength and has the Armor Piercing rule. It may also be used as a ranged weapon with a range of 30" Str4, armor piercing, Quick to Fire, and Hole in One*.
*Hole in One: ranged attacks with this weapon automatically hit and have the sniper special rule.
How could I forget the greatest leader the world has ever known!!! Nooooooooooooooo! Damn you!
Was thinking about doing a profile for Julia Gillard, complete with can of fosters but the Australians on this site claim to have never heard of it
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2013/09/11 20:16:46
Subject: Re:World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
Was thinking about doing a profile for Julia Gillard, complete with can of fosters but the Australians on this site claim to have never heard of it
Julia Gillard isn't our leader anymore. She was replaced with Kevin Rudd a couple of months before the election, which he lost. So now Tony Abbot is our third PM this year.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion."
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2013/09/12 00:03:49
Subject: Re:World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
Was thinking about doing a profile for Julia Gillard, complete with can of fosters but the Australians on this site claim to have never heard of it
Julia Gillard isn't our leader anymore. She was replaced with Kevin Rudd a couple of months before the election, which he lost. So now Tony Abbot is our third PM this year.
And I think abbot lends himself to this thread best, what with his budgie smugglers, daughters, etc.
I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
2013/09/12 00:42:50
Subject: Re:World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
I thought this would be partisan tomfoolery, but this is actually the best thing I've read so far - well done. I love the George Washington's wig especially, though love the word interplay for Air Horse One.
I also think Kim Jong-Un should have some rules similar to Kharn, or at the very least be able to kill a civilian to gain a re-roll a leadership test like Orks & Grots.
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2013/09/12 03:37:12
Subject: World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
Big Ears: Once per game during the movement phase Tony can give his ears a great big flap to take him out of danger. Place him anywhere within 20" of his starting position. This allows him to leave combat, and can be used even if he is fleeing, causing him to automatically rally after the joy of flight.
Budgie Smugglers: Tony is only hit on a 6 in close combat, as the enemy can't look directly at his manly Australian bulge.
Bike: This is Tony's favourite triathlon bike, and the speeds he can reach on it men he can only be hit by ranged attacks on a 6.
Special Rules: Fit as a Fiddle, Bad Experiences, Deep Denial
Fit as a Fiddle: When he loses his last wound, roll a dice. On a 4+ he stands back up with 1 wound.
Bad Experiences: Friendly units cannot benefit from Tony's Ld, as he has been known to suffer bouts of silence when forced to interact with some people.
Deep Denial: Science and what not holds no sway o'er this man. And since science and magic are the same thing when they are fancy enough (whatever the quote is), he denies that as well. Unless it is magic he believes in. Tony has MR3 against all spells not from the Lore of Light.
I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
2013/09/12 06:09:01
Subject: Re:World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
Hmmm I know he's new but this is a rather glowing assessment of a politician. I don't know anything about him but what I will say is: Beware big eared leaders called Tony!
Spoiler:
Appearance: As Gollum but more greasy. Stats: As Gollum. Special skills: Oily, Weaselly, Generate Income Armour: Teflon Armour Offensive Weaponry: Cherie Blair Bannerman: Alastair Campbell
Oily: When charged can miraculously and inexplicably escape from any situation while Alastair Campbell still lives. Weaselly: Ignoring all existing rules, behaviours and good taste Tony can move into base contact with other characters and carry out either a whisper in ear attack or backstab. Generate income: When Tony Blair is appears on the battlefield before the first turn your opponent must pay you £250,000.00. For this you have to make a very short speech about British industry being the best and a very long speech about how you were right all along. Teflon Armour: No matter what Tony is charged with or what is slung at him nothing will stick or wound him. Cherie Blair: Once per attack phase Tony can wield this Battle Axe to damage his foes using his basic characteristics. If 6 is rolled on any to hit roll the foe is hit with special Human Rights damage and can play no further part in the game as they fend off unwanted media attention that they're racist, sexist, homophobic, a meanie or any mix of these things. Alastair Campbell; If still alive at the end of the battle and once objectives and victory points are known Alastair can spin the result. Ignoring all that has gone before this is an automatic win for Tony Blair. You opponent must accept this result in silence or Tony gets to roll a D6 on the Self Righteousness table;
1 - Incredulous 2 - Unbearably Smug 3 - Additional appearance fee (+£50k) 4 - Saintly silence 5 - In my Heart I knew I had to do the right thing 6 - Tea with the Queen
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2013/09/12 08:32:19
Subject: World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
I was trying not to let my personal biases cloud the rules, but it looks like my avoidance of them forced his creation in the opposite direction entirely. And even though I'm not a fan we're stuck with him now, so we may as well stay positive and hope he keeps most of his promise, and sees that the others are illegal/stupid and drops them. One can hope.
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
2013/09/12 11:52:59
Subject: Re:World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
Weapons and armour: hand weapon, battle suit (light armour)
Special rules:
Dancing around the issue: Nick Clegg gets a 5+ ward save, unless he is being attacked by David Cameron.
Nobody Cares: Nick Clegg cannot be targeted individually unless he is not attached to a unit.
Nobody likes him: Any model attacking Nick Clegg may re-roll failed To Hit rolls.
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Coolyo294 wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
2013/09/13 13:03:12
Subject: World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
And I think abbot lends himself to this thread best, what with his budgie smugglers, daughters, etc.
So long as he rides to battle on the back of his steed. A wallaby named "Quade Cooper"
I'm probably one of the very few people that rate Cooper!
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2013/09/13 13:05:37
Subject: World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
Ouze wrote: I thought this would be partisan tomfoolery, but this is actually the best thing I've read so far - well done. I love the George Washington's wig especially, though love the word interplay for Air Horse One.
I also think Kim Jong-Un should have some rules similar to Kharn, or at the very least be able to kill a civilian to gain a re-roll a leadership test like Orks & Grots.
Big Ears: Once per game during the movement phase Tony can give his ears a great big flap to take him out of danger. Place him anywhere within 20" of his starting position. This allows him to leave combat, and can be used even if he is fleeing, causing him to automatically rally after the joy of flight.
Budgie Smugglers: Tony is only hit on a 6 in close combat, as the enemy can't look directly at his manly Australian bulge.
Bike: This is Tony's favourite triathlon bike, and the speeds he can reach on it men he can only be hit by ranged attacks on a 6.
Special Rules: Fit as a Fiddle, Bad Experiences, Deep Denial
Fit as a Fiddle: When he loses his last wound, roll a dice. On a 4+ he stands back up with 1 wound.
Bad Experiences: Friendly units cannot benefit from Tony's Ld, as he has been known to suffer bouts of silence when forced to interact with some people.
Deep Denial: Science and what not holds no sway o'er this man. And since science and magic are the same thing when they are fancy enough (whatever the quote is), he denies that as well. Unless it is magic he believes in. Tony has MR3 against all spells not from the Lore of Light.
I knew things were bad in Oz land but you elected him as leader!
Weapons and armour: hand weapon, battle suit (light armour)
Special rules:
Dancing around the issue: Nick Clegg gets a 5+ ward save, unless he is being attacked by David Cameron.
Nobody Cares: Nick Clegg cannot be targeted individually unless he is not attached to a unit.
Nobody likes him: Any model attacking Nick Clegg may re-roll failed To Hit rolls.
Reminds me of wormtongue in the LOTR mini game
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notprop wrote: I'd do Hilary Clinton for you but she'd have to buy me a few drinks first.
No such condition for that Palin one though.
First it was Kim Jung, now I've forgotten Palin! Argggggghhhhhhhhhh
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2013/09/13 16:25:30
Subject: World leaders as Warhammer fantasy heroes: who would win
Weapons and armour: hand weapon, battle suit (light armour)
Special rules:
Dancing around the issue: Nick Clegg gets a 5+ ward save, unless he is being attacked by David Cameron.
Nobody Cares: Nick Clegg cannot be targeted individually unless he is not attached to a unit.
Nobody likes him: Any model attacking Nick Clegg may re-roll failed To Hit rolls.
Changeability: Nick Clegg may declare that he is charging a unit, move into base contact with them, but then change his mind shortly afterwards and assault a different unit.
Weapons and armour: hand weapon, battle suit (light armour)
Special rules: Dancing around the issue: Nick Clegg gets a 5+ ward save, unless he is being attacked by David Cameron.
Nobody Cares: Nick Clegg cannot be targeted individually unless he is not attached to a unit.
Nobody likes him: Any model attacking Nick Clegg may re-roll failed To Hit rolls.
Changeability: Nick Clegg may declare that he is charging a unit, move into base contact with them, but then change his mind shortly afterwards and assault a different unit.
Whipping Post: If a unit fails a leadership test and is within 12" of Nick Clegg they can immediately blame him for the failure. They pass the test but Nick suffers a -1 LD modifier for the rest of the battle. Multiple modifiers gained in this way stack.
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