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1) Does a Wave Serpent with a Crystal Targeting Matrix shoot at a flier with a normal BS after moving flat out?
It lets you fire using normal BS after moving flat out which normally makes you snap shot.

2) I equip 1 War Walker in a unit of 3 with Holo-fields. Is sit in ruins, so 2 of them have 4+ cover and 1 has 3+ cover save.
The one with a 3+ cover is in the front. Imagine i get 4 penetrating shots. What do I exactly do?

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1) (You normally can't shoot after moving Flat Out.) No, nothing in the CTM grants Skyfire.

2) See the section on shooting at squadrons of vehicles (p. 77, "Damaging Squadrons"). You actually roll penetration & saves one at a time, and resolve them as they occur. So you shouldn't have a "bucket" of 4 penetrating hits to deal with - if you're hit 4 times, your opponent rolls one AP die, you roll to save as appropriate (closest model/focus fire/whatever), and if you fail the save, he resolves the result before rolling a second AP die.

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1) No, snap shots

2) Roll a save at a time.

Notes:
1) A vehicle moving flat out can normally not shoot at all, and does this movement instead of shooting
2) Vehicles must be covered by 25% of the ruins, so just sitting "in" ruins does not confer a save to you at all.

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No.1 - I'd imagine you would still be firing as snap shots v fliers but don't know the Eldar codex well enough to give a thorough answer I'm afraid.

No.2 - You would take all hits on the closest one till it is either wrecked or exploded per the normal rules. Any excess hits then proceed to the next closest.

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macexor wrote:
1) Does a Wave Serpent with a Crystal Targeting Matrix shoot at a flier with a normal BS after moving flat out?
It lets you fire using normal BS after moving flat out which normally makes you snap shot.
An Ork shooting at a flier is BS2. That's the normal value.
Then the Snap Shot rule kicks in.

Are are infact using normal Balistic skill, but the shots are resolved at BS1. No getting around this, to date Tau Marker Lights are the one and only exception to this rule.
   
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For 1) - what's actually stopping this is that while the rule for the Crystal Targetting Matrix does allow you to fire normally where you would normally Snap Shot, it *only* allows you to do this where the source of Snap Shotting is moving flat-out. This doesn't give you permission to override it for flyers as well.

Or to put it another way, even if you move flat-out as well, you have two things forcing a Snap Shot:
1) moving flat-out
2) firing at a flyer

The rule only allows you to ignore the first - the second therefore still applies.

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 Super Ready wrote:
For 1) - what's actually stopping this is that while the rule for the Crystal Targetting Matrix does allow you to fire normally where you would normally Snap Shot, it *only* allows you to do this where the source of Snap Shotting is moving flat-out. This doesn't give you permission to override it for flyers as well.

Or to put it another way, even if you move flat-out as well, you have two things forcing a Snap Shot:
1) moving flat-out
2) firing at a flyer

The rule only allows you to ignore the first - the second therefore still applies.


Tons of inaccuracies here. Flat out normally means no shooting at all, not snap shots. CTM allows one weapon to be fired normally after a flat out move which would normally prevent all shooting. It doesn't provide skyfire or any means to ignore hard to hit.

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Stevenage, UK

Argh, of course - managed to get flat-out and cruising speed muddled somehow. My apologies.

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