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After a small hiatus from working on 3d models to dabble in some other projects i decided to clean up the USMC EAG i drafted up a bit ago. Just need to figure out how to get the rope modeled and then order a test print. I might be to small to get the level of detail in i would be happy with.

How are the designs coming along?

 Master Azalle wrote:
How are the designs coming along?

Slowly but surely. Lots of distractions of course.

I tried to get the rope to work on the anchor this weekend but it was sad sad failure. It didnt look good on the screen and then it crashed the computer too. I'm gonna try a different method for modeling the rope on this week and hopefully it will look better but its going to be much more time consuming since i will have to make it from scratch in the 3d software instead of importing a line template and making that fit to the pad.

Not super happy with out the rope turned out but since the rope is being a serious ass hat right now I'm gonna call it done and upload it for printing. Hopefully next pay day i will be able to order a test print and it should arrive in 2-3 weeks. Then i will know for sure what the limit of the printers really are. The fine detail on the rope and small raised edge of the continents may or may not survive.

If they are willing to pay for the ultra high detail it should, but the lower quality (cheaper) mats are used, it will be lost in creation.

Yeah i dont even check the blocks for the other materials, ultra fine detail is the only one ill offer just to avoid the obvious disapointment people will get. at least with ultra fine frosted detail there is a good chance it will be pretty close.

I have them uploaded to my shapeways store now but I have no clue how much detail will show up in the final print until i can order a test run for myself.

****WARNING**** they are for sale now, but quality of detail is not guaranteed until i get an order in for myself to check them out.
https://www.shapeways.com/model/1503751/shoulder-pad-hawk-over-earth.html?li=aeTabs

One of the customers I was working with ordered a test set for me and I will have pictures as soon as the arrive. if all is well I will remove the disclaimer and start work on the next set

Some ideas I have for shoulder pads:
1st infantry (big red one)
1st cav
2nd armored div (hell on wheels)
82nd airborne
101st airborne

Got some custom requests too for a wolf head straight on and a bear paw.

I'm still looking for pads and doors for Angels of Vengeance. I have a company I need to kit out haha

 Master Azalle wrote:
I'm still looking for pads and doors for Angels of Vengeance. I have a company I need to kit out haha

HAHA man you gotta keep on me, i forget about these things when i get caught up in my millions of side projects

Well great news, my tester got the shoulder pad order in for the EGA today.
Working on the Q&A right now on what we can improve and what we like and don't like but overall i am very happy with the level of detail the printer pulled off. Just need to add caveats now to all orders about prep work and cleaning once they get the items in.

My tester was able to provide me pictures of a painted shoulder pad now Very happy with how they have come out now.
Just going to make a few tweaks but soon I will start work on the rhino, landraider, and hopefully terminator kits.

Phenominal!

Small progress updated. Based off feedback from the test run I have now rounded the eagle out and raised both the eagle and continents a bit to make for better painting.

I started drafting up all the USMC ranks as well.

Morning all, I have talked it over with the wife and have decided that in January I will register Redstone Miniatures as a business officially and get cracking on making custom bases that will be available for purchase from my website store once it is all setup. In the mean time all my custom shoulderpads and tank kits will be available through shapeways.

https://www.facebook.com/redstoneminiatures

I am busy researching different resin mixes and silicon molds to find something that gives the best results. Fully open to any suggestions anyone has about resin and what brands to look out for when buying.

Realy excited for you! Can we expect more designs soon? Maby something for us chaos players?

Thanks, I am looking forward to doing some new and more original designs after i finish the rest of the parts for this USMC kit.

Took a bit of a break off from things during the holidays but now im back into working on these.

http://shpws.me/pOWi

I got the fixed shoulder pads up now and I am working on the ranks, then the rhino kits before starting the next designs.

I know that I would pay good money for RT era beakie compatible bits. Especially for wargear that wasn't avalible in the days of Rogue Trader.

Got a bit more work done on the shoulder pads today. Finished the enlisted rank shoulder pads up to match the USMC eagle shoulder pads now.

Link to my shapeways store.
http://shpws.me/qnjv


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 UselesswizarD wrote:
I know that I would pay good money for RT era beakie compatible bits. Especially for wargear that wasn't avalible in the days of Rogue Trader.

Unfortunately I have no point of reference for making rogue trader stuff but if I could get my hand on one of the old sprues I could probably knock something out. The only problem with that is the sprues are INSANELY expensive on ebay right now. I would love to make modern weapons for a rogue trader army though

I have at least two boxes of the original plastics still on sprue. I would happly send you an example of each sprue for reference.

 UselesswizarD wrote:
I have at least two boxes of the original plastics still on sprue. I would happly send you an example of each sprue for reference.

Sure thing, I sent you PM with some info if you can mail those to me I can start working on prototypes of the gear. I was looking online and I don't see anything that had shoulderpads separate back then. Everything looks like shoulder pads were molded with the arms.

I too am looking for some custom shoulders as well as other bits that I can use to help make my army be more cohesive in terms of looking like they are a chapter. I am horrible with water-slide transfers and while I am average at painting minis, Free-handing squad markings and chapter heraldry is a bit beyond my current skill level. I have a quite a few ideas I would love to see made. I do have a little conundrum however, My already assembled and painted minis would need some form of bits I could glue on, but looking at the images you have put up, I do not know if that would be possible considering the size and thickness they would most likely need to be.


I am building Guardians of the Covenant (DA successors) for reference.

Hmm, have you considered printing them elsewhere? I mean, get them printed at a company who have better machines and then cast those prints?

I too sell stuff on Shapeways, but I notice that on these scales the printed stuff still looks somewhat inferior to the more 'conventional' stuff that's out there. :(

which parts are you talking about, the shoulders or the bits to go on shoulders?

I like the quality I see in the minis that the OP has posted, I think they would suit my needs if my ideas can become design. As for the little bits, I am just starting out on this venture and would consider anything if you have any ideas to share. I have tried to make my own resin molds and that ended up horrible and messy, finding out I have no sculpting talent whatsoever.

My post was meant for Spartacusbob actually.

I like the quality of the design themselves, I'm just not fully happy with the quality of the print. Because it is inferior to the business standard, it means that the designs aren't truly done the justice they deserve

If there will be RT bits being made, try to not have them too detailed, keep the detailing simply and then try to do a polished print. Not sure if they'll do the miniatures any justice, but I think there might be less printlines and such, which you now have on the printed shoulderpads. :(

AH no worries.

I hear ya, Yeah the prints from shapeways are decent enough to get buy. They make a really good starting point though. With the (FUD) Frosted Ultra Detail it can pull off the thickness or thinness i desire but the texture still comes out a tad grainy and you can still see the fine lines of the printer doing one layer at a time over curves. If anything required fine details I would stick with FUD for sure as a printing material but for simple things like doors, hatches, and bases I am going to give the standard white hard plastic a try and see how well that holds up.

Currently I am waiting on my order of smooth-on silicon and plastic resin mix to come in so I can start casting. I plan on just using shapeways for parts that I can't easily cast myself and for my masters. Once I am done cleaning up a master and making it mold ready then I will start casting and selling resin cast parts in my web store.

There are certain things that I am content with just for FUD so far. I was actually surprised how much detail survived from design to print with the Marine shoulder pads.


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 kezef wrote:
I too am looking for some custom shoulders as well as other bits that I can use to help make my army be more cohesive in terms of looking like they are a chapter. I am horrible with water-slide transfers and while I am average at painting minis, Free-handing squad markings and chapter heraldry is a bit beyond my current skill level. I have a quite a few ideas I would love to see made. I do have a little conundrum however, My already assembled and painted minis would need some form of bits I could glue on, but looking at the images you have put up, I do not know if that would be possible considering the size and thickness they would most likely need to be.


I am building Guardians of the Covenant (DA successors) for reference.

I have thought about doing something like that where the icons will fit onto shoulder pads and thinness is a small problem but the bigger problem would be getting them to fit the curve exactly. My shoulder pads are close to GW but they are a slightly different shape then theirs just because it is so hard to match precisely even with measurements down to the milometer. This is why i make sure to try and offer all my shoulder pads in pairs so then you get an even appearance on the model and not a situation where one pad is noticeably higher or farther out then the other because they are from 2 different sources.

By the way, here's a list of printing services which might interest you for those parts you want to cast: (list taken from Resin Addicts)

3D Printing Services
Lightbeam 3D
-Scott works with super-detailed Perfactory® technology, liquid resins and very accurate lenses.
-High quality finished product with almost no surface issues, higher priced.
VisionProto
-Paul also uses the Perfactory® systems and liquid resins.
-High quality, higher priced. Very customer friendly.
Moddler
-Almost considered the standard, in terms of balance between cost and quality
-Very popular for printing hard surface models like vehicles and robots
Ninja Magic
-Uses Solidscape prototyping technology.
-Todd also does investment casting from 3D prints, results in a metal master, usually brass.
Sculpteo
-Offers a decent range of materials and prices.
-Uses a few different printing technologies to offer variety.
Black Dragon Castings
Micro-RP

 Spartacusbob wrote:
I hear ya, Yeah the prints from shapeways are decent enough to get buy. They make a really good starting point though. With the (FUD) Frosted Ultra Detail it can pull off the thickness or thinness i desire but the texture still comes out a tad grainy and you can still see the fine lines of the printer doing one layer at a time over curves. If anything required fine details I would stick with FUD for sure as a printing material but for simple things like doors, hatches, and bases I am going to give the standard white hard plastic a try and see how well that holds up.

Currently I am waiting on my order of smooth-on silicon and plastic resin mix to come in so I can start casting. I plan on just using shapeways for parts that I can't easily cast myself and for my masters. Once I am done cleaning up a master and making it mold ready then I will start casting and selling resin cast parts in my web store.

There are certain things that I am content with just for FUD so far. I was actually surprised how much detail survived from design to print with the Marine shoulder pads.


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 kezef wrote:
I too am looking for some custom shoulders as well as other bits that I can use to help make my army be more cohesive in terms of looking like they are a chapter. I am horrible with water-slide transfers and while I am average at painting minis, Free-handing squad markings and chapter heraldry is a bit beyond my current skill level. I have a quite a few ideas I would love to see made. I do have a little conundrum however, My already assembled and painted minis would need some form of bits I could glue on, but looking at the images you have put up, I do not know if that would be possible considering the size and thickness they would most likely need to be.


I am building Guardians of the Covenant (DA successors) for reference.

I have thought about doing something like that where the icons will fit onto shoulder pads and thinness is a small problem but the bigger problem would be getting them to fit the curve exactly. My shoulder pads are close to GW but they are a slightly different shape then theirs just because it is so hard to match precisely even with measurements down to the milometer. This is why i make sure to try and offer all my shoulder pads in pairs so then you get an even appearance on the model and not a situation where one pad is noticeably higher or farther out then the other because they are from 2 different sources.

I hear you about the separate icons to fit onto shoulders it is what I expected, iI was just hoping someone out there might have a solution other than buying new boxes of miniatures, still plan to outfit my guys using the printed stuff if i can get a designer that is willing to work with me to come up with some cool and unique items, shoulders, doors hatches, icons for vehicles, banners that sort of thing. variations of the Dark angels Iconographic style that they but more fitting to the successor chapter that has its own heraldry.

 kezef wrote:

I hear you about the separate icons to fit onto shoulders it is what I expected, iI was just hoping someone out there might have a solution other than buying new boxes of miniatures, still plan to outfit my guys using the printed stuff if i can get a designer that is willing to work with me to come up with some cool and unique items, shoulders, doors hatches, icons for vehicles, banners that sort of thing. variations of the Dark angels Iconographic style that they but more fitting to the successor chapter that has its own heraldry.

Well some of that I can do. I can do rhino kits as of right now or flat icons to put on tanks or other flat surfaces. I need to create a generic banner first so I can add that to the list of things to put icons on.

Is there a picture somewhere out there of the 2nd founding chapter your doing or is it something you came up with?


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 Malika2 wrote:
By the way, here's a list of printing services which might interest you for those parts you want to cast: (list taken from Resin Addicts)

3D Printing Services
Lightbeam 3D
-Scott works with super-detailed Perfactory® technology, liquid resins and very accurate lenses.
-High quality finished product with almost no surface issues, higher priced.
VisionProto
-Paul also uses the Perfactory® systems and liquid resins.
-High quality, higher priced. Very customer friendly.
Moddler
-Almost considered the standard, in terms of balance between cost and quality
-Very popular for printing hard surface models like vehicles and robots
Ninja Magic
-Uses Solidscape prototyping technology.
-Todd also does investment casting from 3D prints, results in a metal master, usually brass.
Sculpteo
-Offers a decent range of materials and prices.
-Uses a few different printing technologies to offer variety.
Black Dragon Castings
Micro-RP

Thanks for the great list, I am gonna start sorting through this and see what my budget allows for making really good masters now.

 Spartacusbob wrote:

 kezef wrote:

I hear you about the separate icons to fit onto shoulders it is what I expected, iI was just hoping someone out there might have a solution other than buying new boxes of miniatures, still plan to outfit my guys using the printed stuff if i can get a designer that is willing to work with me to come up with some cool and unique items, shoulders, doors hatches, icons for vehicles, banners that sort of thing. variations of the Dark angels Iconographic style that they but more fitting to the successor chapter that has its own heraldry.

Well some of that I can do. I can do rhino kits as of right now or flat icons to put on tanks or other flat surfaces. I need to create a generic banner first so I can add that to the list of things to put icons on.

Is there a picture somewhere out there of the 2nd founding chapter your doing or is it something you came up with?

there is two images in the Dark Angels Codex, one of a bunch of them assembled next to the entry for them on pg. 17 and the other of just a painted figure on pg 76. so most of what I would be wanting I will have to design on my own.

and it just hit me that I think I already hit you up on shapeways to design some things, been medicated for tooth extractions and the thought process has been a bit muddy these past days.

 Spartacusbob wrote:

 kezef wrote:

I hear you about the separate icons to fit onto shoulders it is what I expected, iI was just hoping someone out there might have a solution other than buying new boxes of miniatures, still plan to outfit my guys using the printed stuff if i can get a designer that is willing to work with me to come up with some cool and unique items, shoulders, doors hatches, icons for vehicles, banners that sort of thing. variations of the Dark angels Iconographic style that they but more fitting to the successor chapter that has its own heraldry.

Well some of that I can do. I can do rhino kits as of right now or flat icons to put on tanks or other flat surfaces. I need to create a generic banner first so I can add that to the list of things to put icons on.

Is there a picture somewhere out there of the 2nd founding chapter your doing or is it something you came up with?


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 Malika2 wrote:
By the way, here's a list of printing services which might interest you for those parts you want to cast: (list taken from Resin Addicts)

3D Printing Services
Lightbeam 3D
-Scott works with super-detailed Perfactory® technology, liquid resins and very accurate lenses.
-High quality finished product with almost no surface issues, higher priced.
VisionProto
-Paul also uses the Perfactory® systems and liquid resins.
-High quality, higher priced. Very customer friendly.
Moddler
-Almost considered the standard, in terms of balance between cost and quality
-Very popular for printing hard surface models like vehicles and robots
Ninja Magic
-Uses Solidscape prototyping technology.
-Todd also does investment casting from 3D prints, results in a metal master, usually brass.
Sculpteo
-Offers a decent range of materials and prices.
-Uses a few different printing technologies to offer variety.
Black Dragon Castings
Micro-RP

Thanks for the great list, I am gonna start sorting through this and see what my budget allows for making really good masters now.

Depending on your interests, resources, ambitions for this project, you could perhaps also try to crowdfund it or something. I know that the high quality printing stuff can be rather expensive, but if you have products that will sell well, it means you'll make enough money to pay back those costs as well as make a profit. In order to bring in the money for such an investment, doing a small Kickstarter campaign might not be such a bad idea, especially if you don't have the money to start something like this, or don't know yet whether it will work out. A Kickstarter can be a good indication to see whether people would be interested in your products.