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Fragile wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:

Fragile wrote:
Nothing in the quad gun rule prohibits the multitracker or MC rules from applying.

Nothing in the quad gun rule allows it either.
It's a poorly written rule.

No allowance is needed for the Quad Gun rule. I fire the quad gun instead of my weapon, now I fire an additional weapon. Show me the conflict.

I never said there was a conflict.
The rules are written for a model with a single weapon, not multiples.
It simply doesn't cover how they should work together. Buy RAI they probably should.

How does the quad gun work with a monstrous creature? Is there any precedent there?

Cheers

Andrew

 AndrewC wrote:
How does the quad gun work with a monstrous creature? Is there any precedent there?

Cheers

Andrew

None known.



The only thing GW made a ruling on in regards to models that can fire multiple weapons and Gun Emplacements, is no vehicles.

***The only thing GW made a ruling on in regards to models that can fire multiple weapons and Gun Emplacements, is no vehicles.***
Well, walkers...but they have a Weapoins Skill. So the topic could also ask if a dreadnought can fire a quad-gun in place of one of its weapons, ie: dreadnought shoots his Assault cannon and the quad gun instead of the storm-bolter/flamer on his CCW arm.

Unfortunately a Dreadnaught can't shoot a quadgun as the rules stand. The rule for the definition of a vehicle, basically, is if it has an AV instead of T. If it does then its a vehicle. WS is not a defining feature.

Cheers

Andrew

dkellyj wrote:
***The only thing GW made a ruling on in regards to models that can fire multiple weapons and Gun Emplacements, is no vehicles.***
Well, walkers...but they have a Weapoins Skill. So the topic could also ask if a dreadnought can fire a quad-gun in place of one of its weapons, ie: dreadnought shoots his Assault cannon and the quad gun instead of the storm-bolter/flamer on his CCW arm.

You do know a dreadnought is a vehicle, right?

An issue with shooting a 2nd weapon is that this still breaks the quad gun rule in this specific way:

Is the SMS 'the model's weapon'? Yes.

Is the Plasma Rifle also 'the model's weapon? Yes.

While it's true a Battlesuit (or MC) can fire 2 weapons per BRB and Codex specific rules, both of the individual weapons belong to the model, and thus shooting either one technically breaks the Quad Gun rule.

It is unfortunate wording, and does need a FAQ to address.

Alternatively there are 2 of "the model's weapon" and you may fire the Quad Gun instead of one or the other. Both are valid interpretations of the rules, but one of them is a more logical conclusion.

Just for clarification, I know this thread is specific to Tau suits, but would this also apply to SM Centurions?

CanisLupus518 wrote:
Just for clarification, I know this thread is specific to Tau suits, but would this also apply to SM Centurions?

Yay or nay, this would apply to anything that is a non vehicle that can fire more than one weapon.