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Hi Dakka,

So I've got a Battle coming up in a few days where I'll be fighting 1500 points of Space Marines (Black Templars) & 1500 points of Tyranids. I haven't a clue what to take as I'm still relatively new to playing Orks

Everything I own:

HQ:

Warboss - Power Klaw, Shoota/Skorcha, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, Bosspole, 'eavy armour - 120
Warboss - Warbike, Big choppa, Shoota/Skorcha, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, Bosspole, 'Eavy armour - 140
Warboss - Mega Armour, Shoota/Skorcha, Attack Squig, Cybork body, Boss pole - 130
Big Mek - Kustom Force Field, 'eavy armour, bosspole - 95
Old Zogwort (Weirdboy, Warphead) - 145 (85)

Elites:

Nobz x10 - Power klaw x5, Big choppa x2, Shoota/Skorcha x2, Painboy, bosspole x5, eavy armour x10, cybork bodies - 500
Burna Boyz x7 - Mek, Kustom mega-blasta - 105
Lootas x5 - Mek, Kustom mega-blasta - 75

Troops:

Ork Boyz (shootas) x30 - Big shoota, 'ard boyz, Nob, Big choppa, Bosspole - 325
Gretchin x10 - Runtherd, Grotpod - 45

Transport:

Trukk - Reinforced ram, armour plates, red paint job - 55

Fast Attack:

Stormboyz x10 - 120
Warbikerz x8 - Nob, Power Klaw, Bosspole - 240
Warbuggy - Wartrakk, Skorcha - 45
DakkaJet/Burna Bomma/Blitza Bomma - 3x Twin-linked Supa shootas, fighta ace - 130/Skorcha missiles x4 - 165/-135. (Custom model so can be any one of the 3)

Heavy Support:

BattleWagon - 'ard case, Red Paint Job, Grot riggers, Armour plates, Reinforced Ram, Kannon, big shootas x4 - 160 (Dedicated Transport - Nobz/Warboss)
Looted Wagon - Skorcha, big shoota, rokkit launcha, 'ard case, armour plates - 85
Mega-Dread - Skorcha, Grot Riggas - 180
Killa Kan - Skorcha - 40

So, Like I said I haven't got a clue what to take against who :S

Anyone got a better idea?

Cheers for reading

Pricey

hmhmhm very odd amount of stuff to work with.
i would try basing around the nob bikers you have and take one of your warbosses n throw him on a bike.
take your 10nobz and put them in ur BW with a warboss and you get both ur nob squads as troops as you lack boyz.
run ur 30boyz in squads of 10 for backfeild camp.
have the 5 lootas chill in ruins and have 3 dakkajets with ESS go on up.
i can help in more detail onces you reply

I like what orkimedez is going for, but I'd probably split the 30 boyz in 2 groups, 1 in a trukk to help the nobz, and 1 to hold back objectives
still, you need to get more boyz asap
you have too many different toyz and not enough boyz

 Delevarius wrote:
I like what orkimedez is going for, but I'd probably split the 30 boyz in 2 groups, 1 in a trukk to help the nobz, and 1 to hold back objectives
still, you need to get more boyz asap
you have too many different toyz and not enough boyz

Agreed with the trukk thing!
And you need to spend ur paycheck on boxs of boyz
Also more bws and lootas could help.

Cheers for the replies dudes.

Unfortunately I started building the army long before I started playing so everything is a bit all over the place. Next on the list is Boyz and more Boyz

With regards to the list, unfortunately I only have the one Dakkajet/bomma (should have explained that better, sorry) and the warbikers only have the one nob.

I prefer the idea of splitting the boyz into 2 units as opposed to 3 (may aswell make use of mob rulez).

My main concern about the battle is the Tyranid player, he has a Swarmlord protected by 2 tyrant guard and a flying hive tyrant. I know form past experience (what little I have) that these 2 are hard to bring down... especially when the Flyrant is in flyer mode.

I like what Orkamedezz and delevarius have said! Would sending the battlewagon with warboss & nobz and a trukk full of boyz up one side, and the warbikers and bikerboss up the opposite side make sense? Would it be worth taking Old Zogwort to try and turn his Swarmlord into a Squig?

Cheers for taking the time to read/reply

Pricey

 Pricey wrote:
Cheers for the replies dudes.

Unfortunately I started building the army long before I started playing so everything is a bit all over the place. Next on the list is Boyz and more Boyz

With regards to the list, unfortunately I only have the one Dakkajet/bomma (should have explained that better, sorry) and the warbikers only have the one nob.

I prefer the idea of splitting the boyz into 2 units as opposed to 3 (may aswell make use of mob rulez).

My main concern about the battle is the Tyranid player, he has a Swarmlord protected by 2 tyrant guard and a flying hive tyrant. I know form past experience (what little I have) that these 2 are hard to bring down... especially when the Flyrant is in flyer mode.

I like what Orkamedezz and delevarius have said! Would sending the battlewagon with warboss & nobz and a trukk full of boyz up one side, and the warbikers and bikerboss up the opposite side make sense? Would it be worth taking Old Zogwort to try and turn his Swarmlord into a Squig?

Cheers for taking the time to read/reply

Pricey

You know its not a hafe bad idea trying the zog bomb. But its a long shot 4+ DNW and easy to fail might be worth it mostly not though.
Darb i miss read all of what you got lol. But what you said might be a good idea. Im just afriad you cant get to 1500pts seems to me your dont have the right tools to handle these armys.
So you might be boned. And when ur in a boned situation you go down 1 of 2 ways. Swinging or having fun
The choice is yours sir lol

 Orkimedezz wrote:

You know its not a hafe bad idea trying the zog bomb. But its a long shot 4+ DNW and easy to fail might be worth it mostly not though.
Darb i miss read all of what you got lol. But what you said might be a good idea. Im just afriad you cant get to 1500pts seems to me your dont have the right tools to handle these armys.
So you might be boned. And when ur in a boned situation you go down 1 of 2 ways. Swinging or having fun
The choice is yours sir lol

Hmm, It's all for fun anyway so I may go for Old Zogwort and see if I can have a laugh. If worst comes to worst he'll end up zapping his own boyz so it wont matter about the Swarmlord

Thanks for the heads up. At least I have an idea as to what im in dire need of... BOYZ! For future reference, would these be shoota boyz or Slugg/choppa boyz? I've always found shoota boyz to be my preferred choice, but whats the general consensus?

 Pricey wrote:

 Orkimedezz wrote:

You know its not a hafe bad idea trying the zog bomb. But its a long shot 4+ DNW and easy to fail might be worth it mostly not though.
Darb i miss read all of what you got lol. But what you said might be a good idea. Im just afriad you cant get to 1500pts seems to me your dont have the right tools to handle these armys.
So you might be boned. And when ur in a boned situation you go down 1 of 2 ways. Swinging or having fun
The choice is yours sir lol

Hmm, It's all for fun anyway so I may go for Old Zogwort and see if I can have a laugh. If worst comes to worst he'll end up zapping his own boyz so it wont matter about the Swarmlord

Thanks for the heads up. At least I have an idea as to what im in dire need of... BOYZ! For future reference, would these be shoota boyz or Slugg/choppa boyz? I've always found shoota boyz to be my preferred choice, but whats the general consensus?

85% of dakka will vote shootas and me aswell.
however i do have some friends who perfer slugs. honestly in a shooty ed the shootas are better as a squad of 30boyz has enough attacks to kill a squad anyway.
anyways remember Old Zog is BS0 so he cant use shooting attacks:3 and the 1-3 on the table is a shooting attack!
i would stride for 80-160boyz and 20-45 lootas and you go yourself good stuff.
than you can branch off to themed lists. Bw spam,greentide,spead freak ect!
BW and Greentide i think are the strongest for orks in current meta. orks are good but wont ever be top table in this Ed sadly.
dakkajets 2-3
Bws 3-6 always good to have

Ew, OP looks like a thoroughly casual player, lets not bring 'meta' and 'strength' into this and let him take what he likes using!

I for one think not bringing the Mega Dread would be a crime. Pretty sure it can take better firepower than just a Skorcha though?

You definitely need more boyz, but as it is you can run all sorts of lists in a casual setting. I would recommend using Wazdakka (or better yet, Zhadsnark since you've got Forgeworld) and so using those bikers you have as troops. Generally you'd want more bikers to make it worthwhile, but your really lacking for troops here! Just say "this biker character is Wazzy" since he lacks an official model, and your good to go!

 Dakkamite wrote:
Ew, OP looks like a thoroughly casual player, lets not bring 'meta' and 'strength' into this and let him take what he likes using!

I for one think not bringing the Mega Dread would be a crime. Pretty sure it can take better firepower than just a Skorcha though?

You definitely need more boyz, but as it is you can run all sorts of lists in a casual setting. I would recommend using Wazdakka (or better yet, Zhadsnark since you've got Forgeworld) and so using those bikers you have as troops. Generally you'd want more bikers to make it worthwhile, but your really lacking for troops here! Just say "this biker character is Wazzy" since he lacks an official model, and your good to go!

Yes yes ofc no meta meta icky! But just trying to bring up what is good for future needs. Ya never know! It starts out as a fun game and ends up as the grand champ in a GT by learning whats good
Edit: also whats fun changes alot of people! Some people have fun rolling dice or playing diffrent builds! But some just like crushing the snots out of some dang umies!

Personally, I use lots of Battlewagons and a metric poop ton of boyz, preferably more than my opponent has time to deal with. In local tourneys, time is always a factor, and even without slowplaying, grabbing objectives early can be a good strategy for orks.

When the horde hits imy personal upper limit at 120 boyz, (6 squads of 20)then I start taking firapowa in the form of minimum lootas and deffcoptas because they just don't hold up under enemy fire...still distracts them from doing what they need to, which is "kill dem boyz!". Or I ally in firepower;guard usually balances nicely, especially Vendettas with Troops with high AP weapons, both of which are lacking in a ork force.

Going against the meta, in some ways helps, because points spent towards being good at killing orks is points that aren't spent. They would rather prepare for Eldar, Necrons or Daemons.

 Madness! wrote:
Personally, I use lots of Battlewagons and a metric poop ton of boyz, preferably more than my opponent has time to deal with. In local tourneys, time is always a factor, and even without slowplaying, grabbing objectives early can be a good strategy for orks.

When the horde hits imy personal upper limit at 120 boyz, (6 squads of 20)then I start taking firapowa in the form of minimum lootas and deffcoptas because they just don't hold up under enemy fire...still distracts them from doing what they need to, which is "kill dem boyz!". Or I ally in firepower;guard usually balances nicely, especially Vendettas with Troops with high AP weapons, both of which are lacking in a ork force.

Going against the meta, in some ways helps, because points spent towards being good at killing orks is points that aren't spent. They would rather prepare for Eldar, Necrons or Daemons.

The first part of your post is just a unfair strat seeing how my local turnis are only 2hours per game with that many boyz that 3turns lol!
I have always wanted to do IG allies to get the lasscannon blobs and pop tanks early. I havnt got around to buying it but ik it works great. Im holding off on buying ig n orks seeing they are probably up next for the update