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I want run a varied list so here what I came up with. Wraithlords stay in for sure but loadouts could change.Only3 tanks so the fireprism may be shot off easily but I think the dragons and dscythes will be a higher threat.\
Comes out to 1998. Let me know if you think the loadouts are bad or poor unit choices ect.

HQ
Autarch-mantle, fusion gun, lance, bike, banshee mask 150

farseer-bike, runes of witnessing, singing spear 135

Elites
fire dragon-x5, serpent(shuriken cannon, SL holo-fields) 255

wraithguard-x5, d-scythes, serpent(shuriken cannon, SL holo-fields) 355

troops
guardians-x10, brightlance 110

guardians-x10, brightlance 110

rangers-x6 72

rangers-x5 60

jetbikes-x6 2 shuriken cannon 122

Fast attack
spiders-x6+exarch w/spinneret rifle, fast shot 149

Heavy
wraithlord-2 flamer, 2 brightlance, sword 165

wraithlord-2 flamer, 2 brightlance, sword 165

fire prism shuriken cannon, holo-fields 150

looks okay, i would try to get some warlocks in the list though as they rly give the WG unit more killy stuff

 Lovechunks wrote:
looks okay, i would try to get some warlocks in the list though as they rly give the WG unit more killy stuff

I dont think warlocks can join wraithguard in this codex anymore, they can give the GJB conceal though which is always nice

 Lovechunks wrote:
looks okay, i would try to get some warlocks in the list though as they rly give the WG unit more killy stuff

Warlocks can only join guardian units now. Defenders, jetbikes and storm ones.

1) consider giving autaurch MotLG. that way, he can go around and assult stuff himself, but wont be in any trouble, cause he wotn die.
2) drop fire dragons for 3 BL war walkers.
3) if you need points, drop all wargear off spiders. there effective without upgrades.
4) other than that, looks pretty good.

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
1) consider giving autaurch MotLG. that way, he can go around and assult stuff himself, but wont be in any trouble, cause he wotn die.
2) drop fire dragons for 3 BL war walkers.
3) if you need points, drop all wargear off spiders. there effective without upgrades.
4) other than that, looks pretty good.

I had given the autarch the MotLG that is what I meant by mantle. Makes him into a durable razor. How many war walkers? Seems like 3 with 2 BL would be overkill on any real targets they had. I could drop them for a second prism which would free up about 100 points for maybe another spider squad or something.

I would dump the guardians on foot. They are terrible on foot. They need a Serpent and then they are very effective. Fire Dragons are poor, Wraithguard do their job so much better for not many more points.

Rangers are also poor I would dump them all.

Then you have 2 choices go more mech (getting Serpents for both the Guardian squads and get a unit of normal Wraithguard in a Serpent) or go more mobile troops which means dropping the prism and the serpents get lots of Jetbikes and spend all the remaining points on Warp Spiders.

 FlingitNow wrote:
I would dump the guardians on foot. They are terrible on foot. They need a Serpent and then they are very effective. Fire Dragons are poor, Wraithguard do their job so much better for not many more points.

Rangers are also poor I would dump them all.

Then you have 2 choices go more mech (getting Serpents for both the Guardian squads and get a unit of normal Wraithguard in a Serpent) or go more mobile troops which means dropping the prism and the serpents get lots of Jetbikes and spend all the remaining points on Warp Spiders.

I am not going to run any spam list so tons of bikes or serpents are out. Is there anything that makes guardians on foot bad besides range and durability? I could make them tougher with a conceal warlock. With a BL they can squat on an objective and pop tanks. If anything gets close that is a good deal of shots with rending to shred infantry.

Rangers are poor offensively but still have an okay chance to takes wounds off a MC or take out a power fist sarge. Cheap scoring unit that are not enough of a threat to bother shooting.

Any of what I said wrong? So far this is theory hammer since I have yet to play Eldar in 6th.

Range and durability are the killer for a foot slogging unit. 110 points for 1 BL shot is not a great way to spend points. I'm not saying you have to play a spam list just a list that works together and has multiple similar types of unit to make target selection difficult for your opponent.

Rangers sound good on paper but T3 and the amount of ignores cover around these days and they go away pretty quickly. The main issue with them is that Eldar live and die by mobility rangers are an anchor around your neck an anchor you can't afford. They are at best wasted points at worst the cause of your defeat.

 FlingitNow wrote:
Range and durability are the killer for a foot slogging unit. 110 points for 1 BL shot is not a great way to spend points. I'm not saying you have to play a spam list just a list that works together and has multiple similar types of unit to make target selection difficult for your opponent.

Rangers sound good on paper but T3 and the amount of ignores cover around these days and they go away pretty quickly. The main issue with them is that Eldar live and die by mobility rangers are an anchor around your neck an anchor you can't afford. They are at best wasted points at worst the cause of your defeat.

Have you tried footdar with the new codex? Drop fire prism, dragons, 1 anger squad, bikes, add dark reapers, more guardians and a warlock per guardian squad for conceal.

yes ive tried footdar. not as competitve as other optuions. gardains on foot...... meh

EDIT: Oops wrong thread

How about this? More mech not quite spam yet. It has many different units like I wanted but seems a bit more effective then the first list. Comes out to exactly 2k so I could not give the last harlie a kiss.

HQ

Autarch-mantle of the laughing god, fusion gun, lance, bike, banshee mask 150

farseer-runes of witnessing 115

Elites

Harlequins x6 shadowseer 4x kiss 144

wraithguard-x5 serpent(SL, holo-fields) 295

troops

guardians-x10, brightlance serpent(SL, holo-fields) 245

guardians-x10, brightlance serpent(SL, holo-fields) 245

rangers-x5 60

rangers-x5 60


Fast attack

Swooping Hawks x5 + exarch w/sunrifle 121

warp spiders-x5 95

Heavy

wraithlord-2 flamer, 2 brightlance, sword 165

wraithlord-2 flamer, 2 brightlance, sword 165

fire prism holo-fields 140

better... but why the harliquens?? there not that good in the new dex, and seam out of place in the list. i would drop swooping hawks exarch for another swooping hawk giving them a LB instead of SB when coming in from reserve. or you could get even more spiders. Gardians dont need Bls, but is an OK upgrade. i would trade them for SC on serpents. where is the far seer going, and what is its point in the list? d scythes would be nice for those wraithgaurd. would change there roll, but make them more devatatiing.

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
better... but why the harliquens?? there not that good in the new dex, and seam out of place in the list. i would drop swooping hawks exarch for another swooping hawk giving them a LB instead of SB when coming in from reserve. or you could get even more spiders. Gardians dont need Bls, but is an OK upgrade. i would trade them for SC on serpents. where is the far seer going, and what is its point in the list? d scythes would be nice for those wraithgaurd. would change there roll, but make them more devatatiing.

The hawks are at six now so have a large blast. 5+1(exarch). The harlies are intended to be a counter assault unit and the farseer was meant to hide with them to prevent it from being shot at.

I could put shuriken cannons on the serpents but it seems like firing the shield would be better. If I need the shield I am most likely turbo boosting so can not shoot anyway. Plus it is only 24 inch range.

I dumped scythes on the wraiths due to points and I thought I needed a bit more anti tank. If I dropped the BL from each guardian squad I would still have to get 10 more points to put scythes on them.