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 Manchu wrote:

 agnosto wrote:
Actually it is latin, as in the language.

No, it's High Gothic, as in the fictional language.

 Lynata wrote:
Manchu's point was, I think, that it is "bastardised latin" because it's a Space Language used in a sci-fi setting set many thousands of years in the future. It's not "grammatically false latin" because it evolved/mutated, quite similar to various languages of today - such as the Italian language that evolved out of vulgar latin, for example.

Spot on.

 agnosto wrote:
Kind of makes sense when you consider how an already dead language could morph over the intervening thousands of years; changed by people with no real understanding of the language itself or the history. Oddly fits the setting quite well.

Most of our Latin comes from Caesar and Cicero. Imagine, their idiosyncratic styles have formed our understanding of how everyone spoke the language. Who knows what bizarre game of telephone this has engendered over thousands of years much less tens of thousands.

lol. I had to go back and look it up and Sororitas would be Renaissance Latin, so yeah, I was off. The root for sister though has always been soror (sororis) which is a 3rd declension noun. So yes, it did change a bit in the middle ages and become sororitas to better describe nuns (I suppose).

I'll differ with you on the last point church latin, which is what most people ever have exposure to, yes Cicero had a huge influence on what most people consider latin. Personally, I prefer Pliny the Elder's writing style to Cicero's; the phrase "Fortune favors the bold" (he actually said 'brave') came from him but letters and books have survived the test of time from writers other than Cicero and are available to the general public and provide a much deeper (and sometimes seedier) insight into Roman life, culture and language. The problem with aristocrats is that the Roman Equestrian class spoke and wrote in Greek more than latin which colored their use of the language.

I think I've drug this far enough off topic; I apologize for butting in.

When GW website and GW Codex say, it is Adeptus Sororitas, and Manchu says that it is Adepta Sororitas, then obviously GW is not correct

 Kroothawk wrote:
When GW website and GW Codex say, it is Adeptus Sororitas, and Manchu says that it is Adepta Sororitas, then obviously GW is not correct

I'm wondering if GW is moving to Adeptus to make the terminology easier to keep track of actually.

Or it could be a typo ... as has happened before.

Nice ad hominem, Kroothawk. All fallacies aside: GW is an English company. The English sources reliably use Adpeta. The German translators for the English company went a different route, whether intentionally or by mistake.

 Manchu wrote:
Or it could be a typo ... as has happened before.

True. It was just a thought is all.


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A thought that just crossed my mind:

At Enter the Citadel Kelly was stated as saying it was odd that the Inquisition was removed from the Sisters codex...I wonder if he plans on putting them back in.


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Go-Go-Powerchair?

Here's hoping their update has alot more power chair... Like dreadknight sized.... Sarcasm off. When that's the best center piece GW can think up, is it any wonder they can't get excited?

I'm sure if we ever get an update, we'll be able to get a giant robot of our very own.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I'm sure if we ever get an update, we'll be able to get a giant robot of our very own.

Somebody on /tg/ did draw one, in fact.

Something like that would certainly look cool, but I would want a good fluff explanation/background to go with it,

 Troike wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I'm sure if we ever get an update, we'll be able to get a giant robot of our very own.

Somebody on /tg/ did draw one, in fact.

Spoiler:

Something like that would certainly look cool, but I would want a good fluff explanation/background to go with it,

No. Please just no...

Valete,

JohnS

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I'm sure if we ever get an update, we'll be able to get a giant robot of our very own.

Not "giant" I suppose, but still a pretty cool robot.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat660002a&prodId=prod1300077a&rootCatGameStyle=

 nolzur wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I'm sure if we ever get an update, we'll be able to get a giant robot of our very own.

Not "giant" I suppose, but still a pretty cool robot.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat660002a&prodId=prod1300077a&rootCatGameStyle=

A giant version with several Penitents hooked up to it might work, but then that'd just be rehashing something we already have, really.

I dunno, think that a big tank of some kind might suit the Sisters more as a "super unit". Lynata has also suggested something like a big holy symbol on wheels, which would also be very appropriate. It could provide massive buffs.

I'd love to see something along the lines of the Star Wars sand crawlers, enormous APC style vehicle with several decks and gun emplacements that lumbers towards the enemy front line, something fortress like and gothic which is then able to disgorge a hideously large amount of troops into combat.
It'd be like a creeping doom coming at you across the table as you try to frantically disable it.

There's probably something like this on Forgeworld already but as big a fan of giant stompy robots as I am, I'm starting to feel that 40k is getting a bit saturated with the bloody things!

Release date of these Codice?


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yay, I get to spent $450 to keep up with flipping rules... and get the occasional freeby how to paint a space monkey...

ok that was very negative of me.

Running to Best Buy tomorrow for my new iPad... FETHING SON OF A NURGLE TAINTED TAU! Why can't I just have a book in my grubby paws?

 Kelly502 wrote:
Release date of these Codice?


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yay, I get to spent $450 to keep up with flipping rules... and get the occasional freeby how to paint a space monkey...

ok that was very negative of me.

Running to Best Buy tomorrow for my new iPad... FETHING SON OF A NURGLE TAINTED TAU! Why can't I just have a book in my grubby paws?

.epubs (the Black Library digital books) don't need an iPad. Just a free reader. That's been covered a couple times now.

And I'm guessing next week. No pre-order at least.

Yeah the thread was huge for such a recent release of the WD. I was being lazy, so thank you for answering that.

iPad is easier for me, already have accounts established for iPhone and iPod. Teach fitness classes so I have music on one, and the phone is a phone. Been shopping and reading about these readers and it boils down to ease of suffering.

So if you are going to buy an iPad anyway, why are you bitching at GW?

I do wish that Apple would make a desktop iBook reader.

 d-usa wrote:
So if you are going to buy an iPad anyway, why are you bitching at GW?

I do wish that Apple would make a desktop iBook reader.

Because this is Dakka/the internet, presumably.

And I agree entirely with the second point. despite having an ipad, they would be able to make so so so so so much money if people could get ibooks on devices that weren't apple. The main issue I can see with the idea is that ibooks generally focus on touch interface (being hosted on idevices and all) so maybe we won't see a desktop ibooks until touch PCs become more common?

 d-usa wrote:
So if you are going to buy an iPad anyway, why are you bitching at GW?

I do wish that Apple would make a desktop iBook reader.

Grumbling old timer who likes books... However, I downloaded the Citadel How to Paint a Tactical Marine on my kid's iPad, I likey! You can zoom in, rotate pictures of models, and so forth. So a digital "book" may not be so bad. I'd rather spend my hobby money on kits and figures...

 Troike wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I'm sure if we ever get an update, we'll be able to get a giant robot of our very own.

Somebody on /tg/ did draw one, in fact.

Spoiler:

Something like that would certainly look cool, but I would want a good fluff explanation/background to go with it,

The Sisters are not Orks or Adeptus Mechanicus, and I do not think they should be trying to build a surrogate god like they do. I'd stick to the war church idea - a superheavy tank like the Stormlord whose carrying capacity is actually a small church ripped out of the ground and built into the tank's superstructure.

As far as exo-armored suits I'm more inclined to believe we'd see something like centurions or more penitent engines before we see a dreadknight or an SoB "Mega Maid"

 Scrub wrote:
I'd love to see something along the lines of the Star Wars sand crawlers, enormous APC style vehicle with several decks and gun emplacements that lumbers towards the enemy front line, something fortress like and gothic which is then able to disgorge a hideously large amount of troops into combat.
It'd be like a creeping doom coming at you across the table as you try to frantically disable it.

Its such an established bit of imagery in a number of pieces of SoB artwork... It strikes me as something GW needs to tap into. Mobile shrines and cathedrals are distinctive and would go a long way to further seperate SoB from Marines and IG.

I can't even see Ward sticking a penitent engine inside a larger penitent engine for the super sisters ndk so they may remain free of a super sized Mc, but I would see penitent engines becoming a mc stat wise.

I could see a giant shrine on wheels being pulled by repentia or penitent engines with vehicles or mc stats.

I can also see sisters being a year or so out after gw gets people to buy the digital copy.

Meanwhile at Games Workshop:
"Copy....paste...done. Hey, guys! I think I did it. We now have the 6th edition codex for SOB!"
"The who?"
"You know, the...um...the girls. The girls with armor and things."
"Oh. Don't know them."
"I think I read about them once. Doesn't matter because I just finished their codex!"
"Yay!"
"Now let's go give Space Marines chapter specific terminators just to stick it to the chaos players."
"Great idea!"

Spoke to Cruddence @ Games Day re SoB asking if the digital version is his WD dex. He confirmed it is, hes been involved in the writing of the warlord traits was the impression I got. He also told me they'velooked at the scaling issue for faith points and that there's been 'minor' point tweaks. Release date is for next month (October). Interestingly he said it'll probably be treat like a supplement in that if it sells well as a digital it's probably get a physical release. Spoke to someone from the digital editions stand and they confirmed it'll be for Android aswell as Ipad.

D

Praise be! The God-Emperor has not forsaken us!

We hope.

 evildrcheese wrote:
Spoke to Cruddence @ Games Day re SoB asking if the digital version is his WD dex. He confirmed it is, hes been involved in the writing of the warlord traits was the impression I got. He also told me they'velooked at the scaling issue for faith points and that there's been 'minor' point tweaks. Release date is for next month (October). Interestingly he said it'll probably be treat like a supplement in that if it sells well as a digital it's probably get a physical release. Spoke to someone from the digital editions stand and they confirmed it'll be for Android aswell as Ipad.

D

The chance of it making it to a physical book is good a bit sad in one way,

it probably suggests that any chance of a full new codex/model release is a long way off: Plenty of time taken to see if the digital one sells, plus time to print, plus time for the print run to sell out before they'ed even consider something really new

The problem with Sisters is the scale of their release. Things like IG and Orks are mostly plastic now. So require minimal releases to go with the book. Sisters are like DE and Necrons were before relaunch, primarily metal and that means a huge release of product. And they've already done their huge product release of the year in the form of the Dark Elf models for fantasy. so expect them in the 2014-2015 fiscal year.

I'm going to remain forlorn and skeptical till I have a brand new SOB plastic infantry box in my hands. We've been waiting for new models for a very long time now.

Points tweaks, and scaling faith points. Glad to hear things changed, hopefully, for the better.

Pretty happy about this, gives me hope we're not gonna be 'squatted'. I'm probably in a minority in that I actually don't think we need a plastic model update. I love the current metal Sisters range, not one thing I don't like. A new codex is all I want, that makes more of the units viable and perhaps rolls in some of the more ignored factions such as Arbites and Sisters of Silence. This will do for now though I suppose.

I like the metal models too, I just wish they had the full array of options, like, say, freaking inferno pistols for our seraphim, and power sword/plasma pistol combo for our Superiors, and condemnor boltguns would be nice, too.

At that point we may as well be transferred to finecast, and I'd prefer we skip that step if we can.