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I'm coming up with some fluff for my Steel Legion regiment and although I've been wanting to make it a gender mixed regiment, I've noticed on Lexicanum that they are rare due to undesirable relationships that form between troopers.

What sort of circumstances would justify allowing a mixed regiment?
   
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In some cases, damaged regiments will be merged, such as Cain's Valhallans, or the Tanith 1st. In other cases, it might be planetary tradition to forgo gender barriers, or because of a demographic imbalance.

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The classic 'hot dog' technique. Take what's left of several regiements where most died to make another complete regiment. Or since the Imperium is a wide wide place just have a world where both genders serve. Or one is mostly command and the other line troops. Make some fluff and run with it.

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What reasoning do you even need? I mean, the setting is big enough and wide enough to just allow mixed gender regiments without even really thinking about it. Isn't it? It's not like the Imperium is short of warm bodies.

And that's exactly what you amount to in the eyes of the DM and Administratum - a warm body to carry a lasgun until you die, a statistic. It matters not a jot what sex you are.

For a timely example, I've just started reading Helsreach, and there are female Steel Legion in that, and not for even a second did I stop and start thinking about why or how there are female members. I didn't need extra justification or reason. They're just there. They're there doing their job just like the soldier next to them.

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Yeah according to Helsreach mixed regiments is already a thing. And they are currently enganged in one of the biggest wars against Orks anywhere in the galaxy. I'd think basic necessity overrides any other qualms anyone might have about mixing genders.
   
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If you ask me, you have to have a reason for not having a mixed gender regiment. The recruiing planet should to have reasons to avoid it, since otherwise it would lower the recruitment potential of the world in question.
It could for example be because of cultural reasons on the planet. A good example is the Vostroyan First Born, which only consists of the firstborn sons of each familiy. I have also heard something about regiments of Amazonian warriors, but I coulden't find anything on Lexicanum.

The main force defending the Imperium is the Imperial Guard, and they need all the Guardsmen they can get, so why shoulden't they be recruiting women?

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A regiment's composition is always influenced by local customs and culture. Some worlds will recruit only males, some only females, and some both (we even have examples for all of these in our own world's history, as far as individual military units are concerned). The same goes for mutants and abhumans ("fresh" Cadian regiments have neither Ogryns nor Ratlings!), or on some worlds perhaps even skin, eye, or hair colour, or to which caste of the population potential recruits belong.
I don't think there has ever been any mention regarding this for the Steel Legion, so why not make something up that fits what you're gunning (hah) for?

Bonde wrote:I have also heard something about regiments of Amazonian warriors, but I coulden't find anything on Lexicanum.
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Excellent! I've had no idea the SL had mixed regiments, I should really read Helsreach.
   
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I want a vallhallen and cadian since it goes well with my colur sceme anyway. I may use the vallahllens as my vets too show their elite etc (excuses)

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- The planetary governor had a tithe to meet, and didn't want to empty his populace of either men or women.
- The culture of the world is one which recognises that XX and XY can both hold lasguns with equal efficiency.
- A merger of two regiments due to casualties (as stated above) puts menfolk next to womenfolk.

Any and/or all of the above would suffice.

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The real life reasons for not wanting mixed regiments is because of *the fear* that (men in particular) will act differently in regards to female squadmates which can cause a breakdown in discipline and order. All you need to get around this (assuming it is even true) is a regiment with sufficient discipline (or sufficient numbers of commissars on hand).

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 Bonde wrote:

It could for example be because of cultural reasons on the planet. A good example is the Vostroyan First Born, which only consists of the firstborn sons of each familiy. I have also heard something about regiments of Amazonian warriors, but I coulden't find anything on Lexicanum.


Only War (FFG, so your mileage may vary on canonicity) adds that sometimes they send their first-born daughters too. They even have artwork! ....Only War in general seems to adore making artworks of female Imperial Guard (you can find female artworks of tons of IG regiments there, most of which are quite awesome and sensible and bad ass, IMHO)

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Kojiro wrote:The real life reasons for not wanting mixed regiments is because of *the fear* that (men in particular) will act differently in regards to female squadmates which can cause a breakdown in discipline and order. All you need to get around this (assuming it is even true) is a regiment with sufficient discipline (or sufficient numbers of commissars on hand).
A lot of worlds in 40k won't even be at risk from this problem as the population may not grow up in the belief that women are a weaker sex that either needs to be protected (careless), ensnared (envy) or serves as prey (rape). Such perceptions are already differing from culture to culture on our contemporary Earth, and it is reflected in the different treatments/experiences of female soldiers in the militaries that have them. Now let's consider how different this could be in a galaxy of a million Imperial worlds that have anything from pre-industrial feudal societies to highly advanced planets where technology reigns supreme.

TiamatRoar wrote:Only War (FFG, so your mileage may vary on canonicity) adds that sometimes they send their first-born daughters too.
Not just "sometimes" - in Only War the Vostroyans do not differ between the genders. If you're the first child, you get tithed.
FFG's material, including Only War, deviates from studio fluff on quite a number of details - but as far as "canon" is concerned, FFG's version of the setting is indeed just as correct or incorrect as GW's, or the individual fan's own ideas. For better or worse, we are left to cherrypick according to our personal preferences or any guidelines that we may have adopted for ourselves. At times, this can be a curse, or a blessing.

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Simple:

The soldiers are recruited en massed and tossed at the enemy, the Imperial Guard doesn't give a gak about their gender, it's an irrelevant datapoint that they probably don't even track in the first place, and it certainly doesn't fit in to their calculations when making strategies. Any morale problems can be handled by the unit's officers and the commissariat.

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