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I am trying to find the IA book with the latest rules for him I am wondering if any can help me.

P.S.
In his latest rules vesion dose he still have a warp field and anaphylactic Shock which caused instant death.

There is nothing on the forge world page about its rules being updated or changed so for better or ill until we get a FAQ then go with what the book says.

The latest IA Apocalypse.

AKA "This One".

The Malanthrope gets worse each time it gets reprinted so I wouldn't really use it in a game other than for fun.

 Kain wrote:
The Malanthrope gets worse each time it gets reprinted so I wouldn't really use it in a game other than for fun.

I just checked this and I can't believe how much worse it's actually gotten:

Lost its Instant Death attack for a terrible Preferred Enemy rule

Lost the 2+ armour and 6+ invuln for 3+ armour

Profile reduced -1S -1T and -2A

Is no longer a monstrous creature

But don't worry, as you can now field 1-3 of them per unit!

 xttz wrote:

 Kain wrote:
The Malanthrope gets worse each time it gets reprinted so I wouldn't really use it in a game other than for fun.

I just checked this and I can't believe how much worse it's actually gotten:

Lost its Instant Death attack for a terrible Preferred Enemy rule

Lost the 2+ armour and 6+ invuln for 3+ armour

Profile reduced -1S -1T and -2A

Is no longer a monstrous creature

But don't worry, as you can now field 1-3 of them per unit!

I was going to comment on this exact thing but you beat me to it.

Before the IAA update, all the stat changes you listed were accurate, but they were still monstrous creatures - this in my mind made them pretty good utility HQ choices as they're only 30 points more than a tyranid prime. Now, as they're only infantry, they won't be killing much in CC and thus not benefitting from their prey adaptation rule nearly as much (if ever).

All i can hope for now is that the rules for Toxin Sacs and Toxic Miasma and Regeneration all change for the better in the next implementation of the tyranid codex. As such the Malanthope makes a great HQ for friendly games, or when teaching a new player how the game works as they don't effect the battle much at all other than provide synapse.

 xttz wrote:

 Kain wrote:
The Malanthrope gets worse each time it gets reprinted so I wouldn't really use it in a game other than for fun.

I just checked this and I can't believe how much worse it's actually gotten:

Lost its Instant Death attack for a terrible Preferred Enemy rule

Lost the 2+ armour and 6+ invuln for 3+ armour

Profile reduced -1S -1T and -2A

Is no longer a monstrous creature

But don't worry, as you can now field 1-3 of them per unit!

Oh,
I like the model a lot. A pity.

 da001 wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 Kain wrote:
The Malanthrope gets worse each time it gets reprinted so I wouldn't really use it in a game other than for fun.

I just checked this and I can't believe how much worse it's actually gotten:

Lost its Instant Death attack for a terrible Preferred Enemy rule

Lost the 2+ armour and 6+ invuln for 3+ armour

Profile reduced -1S -1T and -2A

Is no longer a monstrous creature

But don't worry, as you can now field 1-3 of them per unit!

Oh,
I like the model a lot. A pity.

Forgeworld seems to consider nerfing the Malanthrope roughly as important as breathing. Which is a shame, because as you said the Malanthrope model is gorgeous.

I've been tempted to buy a Malanthrope on ebay several times, but with those rules it's not worth it even at the 40% off RRP it sometimes sells at. The latest rules are like Pyrovore levels of bad.

 xttz wrote:
I've been tempted to buy a Malanthrope on ebay several times, but with those rules it's not worth it even at the 40% off RRP it sometimes sells at. The latest rules are like Pyrovore levels of bad.

Yup, i agree. I have 2 and they're wonderful models, but as they were gifts i didn't pay a dime for them so currently i got my money's worth.

Now, if you want a forgeworld MC that's actually worth it's points, StoneCrusher Carnifexes are pretty awesome. Compared to a current codex carnifex they're amazing, compared to the rest of 40K MC's they're in the "good but not great" category.

Wonderful model, always rumored bad rules, and the constant epiphany of buying something as a table piece. Because god, look at this thing!

Is only a bad HQ only if your are a competitive player or just have a narrow mind for the net list (flyrant and gaunt spam). Use proxy and try them. I got 3 and i'm currently building a list around the Malanthropes. You need some shield (like gargoyles and carniflexs) if you want to see them going up to close.

When the new nidz codex will be out we'll be able to see if it got improve in a good way or a worst way.

 Unyielding Hunger wrote:
Wonderful model, always rumored bad rules, and the constant epiphany of buying something as a table piece. Because god, look at this thing!

What a beautiful thing...
That´s a not-humanoid alien. We have Orks, Eldar, Necrons, Tau, and all of them are almost human. They look like humans, talk like humans and in many ways think and feel like humans. This thing, on the other side, is the definition of "xeno" (a word that means "strange").

 hellpato wrote:
Is only a bad HQ only if your are a competitive player or just have a narrow mind for the net list (flyrant and gaunt spam). Use proxy and try them. I got 3 and i'm currently building a list around the Malanthropes. You need some shield (like gargoyles and carniflexs) if you want to see them going up to close.

When the new nidz codex will be out we'll be able to see if it got improve in a good way or a worst way.

Generally, the Flyrants are needed to counter other fliers. Our book is badly in need of more anti-aircraft options.

And it is an objective truth that the poor Malanthrope seems to get weaker each time it gets new rules.

 hellpato wrote:
Is only a bad HQ only if your are a competitive player or just have a narrow mind for the net list (flyrant and gaunt spam). Use proxy and try them. I got 3 and i'm currently building a list around the Malanthropes. You need some shield (like gargoyles and carniflexs) if you want to see them going up to close.

When the new nidz codex will be out we'll be able to see if it got improve in a good way or a worst way.

Use proxy and then we have threads about people using proxies and it's a bad idea.

What do you mean proxy? Proxy it for what?

Also on a side note, what I don't understand is, if GW is a miniature company, how come they keep making crappy rules for minis? I mean don't they want to sell Lictors, Pyrovores, and who know else what has crappy rules, but beautiful minis that are not selling?

 xttz wrote:

 Kain wrote:
The Malanthrope gets worse each time it gets reprinted so I wouldn't really use it in a game other than for fun.

I just checked this and I can't believe how much worse it's actually gotten:

Lost its Instant Death attack for a terrible Preferred Enemy rule

Lost the 2+ armour and 6+ invuln for 3+ armour

Profile reduced -1S -1T and -2A

Is no longer a monstrous creature

But don't worry, as you can now field 1-3 of them per unit!

Did you compared from IA4 to the update of 2013 or between the two last IA update?

Davor wrote:

Also on a side note, what I don't understand is, if GW is a miniature company, how come they keep making crappy rules for minis? I mean don't they want to sell Lictors, Pyrovores, and who know else what has crappy rules, but beautiful minis that are not selling?

I call it "the Mandrake enigma".

Thanks for the help guys was trying to find the rules for my friend who plays tyranids but darn the rules hav changed alot since it did the instant death.

tetrisphreak wrote:

Now, if you want a forgeworld MC that's actually worth it's points, StoneCrusher Carnifexes are pretty awesome. Compared to a current codex carnifex they're amazing, compared to the rest of 40K MC's they're in the "good but not great" category.

They didn't include rules for this in any of the new 6E Apoc stuff. Which is probably just as well, as it would be 250pts and they'd probably forget the mycetic spore option.

There is a new Fex formation that gives them IWND and a hellstorm template attack, which is a reasonable way to use old 4E nidzilla stuff in Apoc.

hellpato wrote:

Did you compared from IA4 to the update of 2013 or between the two last IA update?

It was between the last two IA:Apoc books, but the rules in IA4 are very similar to the older IA:Apoc edition.

Scale wise would it work as a doom of malenti? - similar enough to a zooanthrope, but different

This picture makes it look like it would be pretty oversized for the Doom, although it is a thing you could do if you wanted to get creative and reduce the height somewhat. That's the main thing that's off to me.