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I've been wondering this recently, and cant think of any particular chapter that hates Tau above other races, any ideas?

I say Blood Ravens. That stronghold mission in Dark Crusade was bullcrap.

Pretty sure alot of the marines that really dislike Tau are from every chapter that has worked in the Deathwatch.

They preform missions againgst tau on a very frequent basis and have marines from every chapter.

I dont believe any single chapter has alot of dealings with the tau other than ultra-marines, since they live in each others backyard, and the ultra-marines dont hate em since they helped each other with the tyranid threat.

 Arcsquad12 wrote:
I say Blood Ravens. That stronghold mission in Dark Crusade was bullcrap.

That stronghold was ridiculous! That and the Necron complex with the bomb, always struggled with that as IG.

On topic, I'd guess some of the more zealous/xenophobic chapters like the Templars. There's the Deathwatch of course, but they aren't a chapter as such.

I think Black Templars have had a few run-ins with them.

I guess Brazen Claws or Novamarines (which ever has the anti-xeno crusade) since before Dark Crusade they attacked Kronus in Damocles, but failed to dislodge them.

Black Templars, obviously.

Filthy, filthy xenos! Must... purge...

Black templars... Because we hate everyone, but we love the emprah!

Red Scorpions are also noted as religiously pure and anti xeno... Templars for sure are up there though.

I'd go with the black templar.

Yip it would be those hate filled Templars!

 TheFatElf wrote:

 Arcsquad12 wrote:
I say Blood Ravens. That stronghold mission in Dark Crusade was bullcrap.

That stronghold was ridiculous! That and the Necron complex with the bomb, always struggled with that as IG.

That it was. That's why I never bothered with going above Easy difficulty. Well, that and I suck at RTS's.

As above, Templars aren't all that diplomacy-oriented as far as Xenos are concerned. The upstart Tau fall squarely into that basket.

Black Templars really get into their Hate

Also maybe the Sable Swords chapter?

Black Templars all the way.

Black Templars, who are now battle brothers with Tau on the tabletop..... Tehehe

Eldercaveman wrote:
Black Templars, who are now battle brothers with Tau on the tabletop..... Tehehe

Well at least Tau don't use psykers.

 DarthOvious wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:
Black Templars, who are now battle brothers with Tau on the tabletop..... Tehehe

Well at least Tau don't use psykers.

Even if the Tau could use psykers they'd still be battle-brothers. And people wonder why some of us argued against being folded into the Vanilla Codex.

Just want to add in something that might help.

Way back in the days of history when it was just Codex: Tau there was a pretty good description of the Damocles Gulf Crusade where the Imperium tried to dislodge the Tau threat (admittedly it wasn't much of a crusade, mostly consisting of whatever spare forces were available at the time). That crusade contained a ton of Impereal Guard, some titan legion support, and space marines from a chapter nobody has ever heard of called "scythes of the emperor". The Tau pretty much do what Tau do and fought tons of really nasty draining hit and run attacks while retreating deeper into their space until the crusade over-extended itself and ground to a really nasty stalemate. The Tau then let them surrender and leave peacefully because that's what Tau do.

Being involved in a failed crusade against what was supposed to be a xenos species of minimal threat, then actually having to surrender to said xenos...I bet the Scythes of the Emperor are still pretty bitter about that one.


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Actually I just looked it up, apparently the Scythes are more concerned about squashing bugs these days to care about Tau. Here's a list of evrey chapter involved in the crusade. What I said about the scythes would be equally valid about any of them. (guess who's favorite angry marines are on the list)

Adeptus Astartes Chapters:
Black Templars
Iron Hands
Novamarines
Scythes of the Emperor
Subjugators
Ultramarines
White Scars

Wasn't it stated in the Damocles Crusade that a lot of the Imperial forces involved gained a grudging respect for the Tau as they fought on, because the Tau at least fought honorably? (hit and run is generally seen as a valid warfare tactic by most). Or is that just fandom?

IIRC the Marines wanted to continue the fighting till the bitter end against the hated Xenos - it was the Guard and Navy and the Inquisition (after getting the call about the Tryanids) who decided against further war of attrition.

All Marines hate Xenos and want to kill them on sight.

Thats why they are "Battle Brothers" with the Tau..........and of course not just to sell more models......

TiamatRoar wrote:
Wasn't it stated in the Damocles Crusade that a lot of the Imperial forces involved gained a grudging respect for the Tau as they fought on, because the Tau at least fought honorably? (hit and run is generally seen as a valid warfare tactic by most). Or is that just fandom?

It is said that the Astartes chapters learned to respect them and admire their courage and honor. The IG not so much, but the Astartes at least are known to respect the Tau and can abide pacts with them if the need arises as they know the Tau will honor any agreement they make. It is in one of the Tau codexes.

I somehow can't think Black Templars are going to be thinking that way...

 Maniac_nmt wrote:

TiamatRoar wrote:
Wasn't it stated in the Damocles Crusade that a lot of the Imperial forces involved gained a grudging respect for the Tau as they fought on, because the Tau at least fought honorably? (hit and run is generally seen as a valid warfare tactic by most). Or is that just fandom?

It is said that the Astartes chapters learned to respect them and admire their courage and honor. The IG not so much, but the Astartes at least are known to respect the Tau and can abide pacts with them if the need arises as they know the Tau will honor any agreement they make. It is in one of the Tau codexes.

It's usually the opposite everywhere else though - the Astartes Hate them - they may make a temporary alliance on the battlefield but they are still Xenos scum to be killed when convenient - its the same with the Eldar, except the Tau are more likely to honour their side of the bargin depending on the exact wording if the Water caste are involved.

 dementedwombat wrote:
Just want to add in something that might help.

Way back in the days of history when it was just Codex: Tau there was a pretty good description of the Damocles Gulf Crusade where the Imperium tried to dislodge the Tau threat (admittedly it wasn't much of a crusade, mostly consisting of whatever spare forces were available at the time). That crusade contained a ton of Impereal Guard, some titan legion support, and space marines from a chapter nobody has ever heard of called "scythes of the emperor". The Tau pretty much do what Tau do and fought tons of really nasty draining hit and run attacks while retreating deeper into their space until the crusade over-extended itself and ground to a really nasty stalemate. The Tau then let them surrender and leave peacefully because that's what Tau do.

Leaving out the fact that the Tyranids started doing their thing kinda makes it look as though the Tau had the upper hand. They didn't, it was a stalemate. The reason the Imperium retreaded was because the Tyranids are a much bigger threat than the Tau.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Maniac_nmt wrote:

TiamatRoar wrote:
Wasn't it stated in the Damocles Crusade that a lot of the Imperial forces involved gained a grudging respect for the Tau as they fought on, because the Tau at least fought honorably? (hit and run is generally seen as a valid warfare tactic by most). Or is that just fandom?

It is said that the Astartes chapters learned to respect them and admire their courage and honor. The IG not so much, but the Astartes at least are known to respect the Tau and can abide pacts with them if the need arises as they know the Tau will honor any agreement they make. It is in one of the Tau codexes.

It's usually the opposite everywhere else though - the Astartes Hate them - they may make a temporary alliance on the battlefield but they are still Xenos scum to be killed when convenient - its the same with the Eldar, except the Tau are more likely to honour their side of the bargin depending on the exact wording if the Water caste are involved.

That's the thing though, it doesn't imply they aren't still enemies. However, it does imply the Marines view them as honorable and worthy foes. In the Tau they see themselves reflected, at least in the Fire Caste. So, where as when fighting alongside Eldar they always keep one eye on the Eldar for treachery, with the Tau they can go about their business without worrying about a shot in the back. Next battle they'll worry about shooting it out with the Tau.

The allies chart may not always make sense, but the Tau being able to ally with everyone to some degree, and Imperials and normal Eldar as Battle Brothers makes the most sense. It is kind of the Tau's MO. Black Templars and a few similar chapters, maybe not so much, but the bulk majority? Sure.