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So, my LGS decided finally to do Attack Wing OP, and I'm a bit unfamiliar with the Month 1 Scenario, could someone help me out a bit? I'm also having a bit of trouble with my lists, sure, I've destroyed the Enterprise D quite a number of times only losing a ship once in the process (In'Cha is a really great card, led to a T2 Destruction of Enterprise.)

Here's what I currently Own.

Starter Set (Enterprise D, Vorcha, D'Deridex)
Reliant
Valdore
Negh' Var
Kronos One
Defiant.

I'm unsure of how I want to proceed on Month one. I was thinking of outfitting the Negh'Var like this.

IKS Negh'Var - 30
Kahn Singh - 5
Once More unto the Breach - 5
40

and accompanying him with,

USS Defiant
Jean-Luc Picard
Photon Torpedoes (Reliant 4 shot)

And i'm unsure what I want to use the remaining points on.

If anyone has any helpful hints to help me make it through the Month 1 OP Scenario and tell me what it is exactly, i'd be very grateful.

Ahoy!

If possible, I'd pick up the Enterprise TOS. The crew upgrades are amazing. I ran the following

Ent D
Picard
Sulu
Spock

NegVar
Martok

Reliant
Terell
Obrien

You want enough firepower to be able to blow up DS9 in one shot. The above was able to do it 2/3 games, and in the second game, it took two turns.

What do you REALLY want to run in terms of ships? We can help you tailor a list after that.

I really wanted to run the Trifecta of

Ent-D
Valdore
Negh'Var

But I easily dismissed that because it'd be so expensive, we're only allowed 100 points to do it. with the new Upgrade cards (Especially OMUTB) I thought the Negh'Var would definitely be one of the ways to go, 8 attack dice on one attack seems downright powerful, and With Kahn in command, I can turn any (I forget, is it the Battle Station result) into Critical hits.

I was mainly wanting to go with sheer volume of fire. I had considered running Picard on Defiant with Quantum Torpedos, being able to fire the torpedos each turn by using my action for the turn to enable them, and my free action from Picard to target lock again, then attack with Torpedos, rinse, repeat. Plus, the Defiant has a very nice ability to downgrade critical hits into normal hits.

I just wasn't sure on the 3rd option though, If I ran Kahn on Negh'Var like I wanted to, and Picard with Quantum torpedos, i'd only have like, 24 points left... not much points to do anything with, I could buy a Reliant with Kira Nerise, but that's it...

Anyone think the Picard/Defiant/Quantum Torpedo option is a good idea? Plus, any BS results rolled with the Quantum Torpedos gets turned into a critical hit.

If it helps you make a decision, Khan's ability is not going to work on a negvar. You have to spend a battle statioms token in order to have it work. The negvar does not have battle stations on its action bar, it only has evade, target lock, cloak, and sensor echo. You would still have a high captain skill and get the dicount on upgrades.

khan works better on federation ships because they have battle stations in their action bar.

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
If it helps you make a decision, Khan's ability is not going to work on a negvar. You have to spend a battle statioms token in order to have it work. The negvar does not have battle stations on its action bar, it only has evade, target lock, cloak, and sensor echo. You would still have a high captain skill and get the dicount on upgrades.

khan works better on federation ships because they have battle stations in their action bar.

Hmm, I wonder, would picard work better with the Negh'Var and "Once more unto the breach" ?

Also, completely unrelated, but the next Klingon ship needs an upgrade called "Let slip the dogs of war" or "Cry Havoc!!!"

Okay, so let me weigh in here.

If you're running the Ent-D, you've gotta run Sulu AND the Terell Reliant. Since you don't have the TOS Enterprise, we're going to take the Ent-D out for now.

General List Building Advice- don't bog one ship down with upgrades that it doesn't need. Once more unto the breach is a lot of points for a one time deal +3 attack. I'm not really impressed with it to be honest.

I think most lists that can run a Martok Neg'Var SHOULD run a Martok Neg'var. It's that good. Don't name it, just use the generic. 33pts.

Let's add in the named Defiant with Sisko (to take advantage of Martok's ability) and add a cloaking Device. That's 32pts. (Sisko is better on this ship than Picard is- I've written about it in other threads). 6 Defense dice with battlestations will rarely get hit. Try it out, you may not like it's fragility. You can always replace it with an unnamed Vorcha and one of the klingon captains.

Now, how about the Valdore with Donatra? 32pts. This allows you to pump up the other ships without the use of an action. We took out Once More unto the Breach, which would give +3 attack, and put in Donatra which gives a fleet wide +2 attacks. So much more efficient.

You're at 97pts and every turn will have 14 attack dice. That's more than enough to blow up DS9 in one go. We have three pts left. Tactical officer on the Valdore? Maybe Worf? Baby torps on the Defiant to use the rear firing arc?

That's a very efficient, good beginners list. It'll give you a lot of options and won't really get bogged down if it starts bumping into things. If you lose one ship, the rest have enough oomph to keep going on their own.

Well, I didn't have a chance to read the last post before now, before I went to bed last night, I built this, lemmie know what you think.

Picard - Galaxy Class - Quantum Torpedoes - 38
Kahn - Defiant Class - Counter Attack - 30
Donatra - Valdore Class - 32

Was hoping to build a swarm fleet, but using named captains, that'll never happen, lol.

I like it, should be plenty of fire power for OP1

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
I like it, should be plenty of fire power for OP1

Plus, I can use the Picard/Torpedo thing each turn, lol

Just be careful of that. You have to disable the torpedoes after firing. So if you use the ships action to enable and picard to target lock every turn you can not use an evade action.

You might need an evade here and there the Big D only gets one agility die.

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
Just be careful of that. You have to disable the torpedoes after firing. So if you use the ships action to enable and picard to target lock every turn you can not use an evade action.

You might need an evade here and there the Big D only gets one agility die.

I know, but I was also planning on having Kahn make a run for the Station and board it. Would that be a good Idea as well?

your best bet in OP1 is to blow up the station right off the bat.

A few problems.

Firstly, and most importantly, your list is 1 pt over. While Khan costs 5 pts, you have to add the +1 when assigning him to non-independent ships. So he's actually 6pts in your list.

Less importantly,

Don't run an unnamed Galaxy. They're terrible. Quantum Torpedoes on the Galaxy is 6pts for +2 attack, and every one of your actions. I don't think they're worth it on the Galaxy. MAYBE on the Reliant with it's weaker attack, but even then it's a stretch.

I'd like to know why you want to run Khan? Is it the high pilot skill? Do you like his ability?

Why didn't I see the 1 point thing. A generic galaxy is not that bad it is still kind of tough with 5 hull points. If khan w/quantum torpedoes is your goal then maybe try TOS enenterprise or just drop to 5 shot photons on the galaxy.

I thought Kahn didn't pay any Faction Penalties?

Khan pays faction penalties. The upgrades on his ship do not. GenKhan (the Khan Singh given out at Gencon does not pay faction penalties).