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People underestimating Exorcists make me sad.

Seriously, they're really, really good, and this codex has not changed that. Actulaly I think they're cheaper now?

Yep, 10 points cheaper.

Exorcists ten points cheaper... plus free smoke....

Certainly I'm dusting mine off once I get money for a copy of the codex.

 Melissia wrote:
Exorcists ten points cheaper... plus free smoke....

Certainly I'm dusting mine off once I get money for a copy of the codex.

And free searchlight.

Yeah. How you can not just auto include 3 exorcists is beyond me.

 Green is Best! wrote:
Yeah. How you can not just auto include 3 exorcists is beyond me.

The only wrinkle is how I feel about Rets right now. I am still up in the air on HB rets and a bastion. I'll need to test.

What seems to be the prefered SCS build so far?

 ClockworkZion wrote:
What seems to be the prefered SCS build so far?

That is a toughy!

What are you running them with?

Guard:
- Hospitaller
- Sacred Standard
- Bastion

Mech
- TL-MM Immo
- 4 Condemnors or 4 Combi-Plasma or 4 Heavy Flamers (depending on how you feel about things)
- Priest or Canoness with matching combi

etc, so on.

At 1850 I'm looking at something like:

Celestine
Jacobus
5 Priests (one with Litanies and Evisc, other 4 with mauls)

20 girl blob with heavy flamer, flamer, condemnor and a simulacrum
5 girls with heavy flamer, meltagun, condemnor in MM Immo with a dozer blade
5 girls with heavy flamer, meltagun, condemnor in MM Immo with a dozer blade
5 girls with heavy flamer, meltagun, condemnor in MM Immo with a dozer blade

5 Doms with 4 melta and a condemnor in MM Immo with a dozer blade and laud hailers
5 Doms with 4 melta and a condemnor in MM Immo with a dozer blade and laud hailers

Exorcist
Exorcist

Pretty straight forward: Try for first turn, Celestine rides with one of the Dom units to give them rerollable LD10 checks for their AoF (getting that ignores cover is so critical for the alpha). Depending on the results of that first turn of shooting she either goes and creates havok among nearby troop units, or she falls back into the giant priest-blob. Blob moves up and owns the center of the board, with Jacobus, Litanies, and Simulacrum they get 3 turns of preferred enemy shooting, which is great. The three 5 girl squads generally just go troop hunting, or bait things closer to the blob in the center. I do kinda wish I had a third Exorcist, but I just don't have the points for it.

Celestine can't ride in a vehicle. I would just ditch her and use the points for a third Exo. Rerollable Ld8 is pretty decent and I wouldn't sweat it. You could get a VSS if you're really worried.

Also, how about swapping the meltas on the troops for HF. I think you have plenty of Melta.


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Alternatively, you might be able to place her at the front of the blob and have her join first turn.

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
What seems to be the prefered SCS build so far?

That is a toughy!

What are you running them with?

Guard:
- Hospitaller
- Sacred Standard
- Bastion

Mech
- TL-MM Immo
- 4 Condemnors or 4 Combi-Plasma or 4 Heavy Flamers (depending on how you feel about things)
- Priest or Canoness with matching combi

etc, so on.

1.5k, no allies, no fortifications personally.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Mech
- TL-MM Immo
- 4 Condemnors or 4 Combi-Plasma or 4 Heavy Flamers (depending on how you feel about things)
- Priest or Canoness with matching combi

etc, so on.

1.5k, no allies, no fortifications personally.

Then use the second one under mech above.

They make a good guided missile. Either anti-psyker, anti-hard target or anti-infantry.

I don't know that they are worth the price of admission (canoness), but if you are going to take a canoness you might as well take the SCS.

Comrades, I am in the process of building an acquisition list for my girls.

I have 2x Rhinos
2x Immos

and not much of a desire to get more of those.

I have 1x Exorcist, and I intend to get a second. (Have a nice one picked out on the secondary market as it happens, still no pipe organs for me >.>

I only have heavy bolter rets for heavy weapons. I have plenty of flamer, SB and MG girls.

So it's down to heavy weapons. Just in general how many HF and MM girls should I pick up?

Then I'm going to continue my plan to convert up some Condemnor combi bolters.

Other then that I can't really think of anything else besides the codex itself I need to add to bring my girls up to current. Suggestions? I haven't really started listing crunching besides percolating what y'all have on here.

Hmm... I personally would get 1 HF for each troop squad you have. If you plan on playing easy-bake, then get extras.

As for MM, I wouldn't get them unless you can get them cheap. The only use for them is really for a 'home' squad.

Do you have priests? You'll need some of those or a good counts-as.

 pretre wrote:
Celestine can't ride in a vehicle. I would just ditch her and use the points for a third Exo. Rerollable Ld8 is pretty decent and I wouldn't sweat it. You could get a VSS if you're really worried.

Also, how about swapping the meltas on the troops for HF. I think you have plenty of Melta.


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Alternatively, you might be able to place her at the front of the blob and have her join first turn.

Oh man, you are so right! I totally forgot about being bulky, damn.

Assuming you meant flamers instead of MGs on the 3 troops (they already have heavy flamers)? I may do that now to afford the dominion vet upgrades.

Yeah, swap meltas for Flamers. I can has typing good. That'll get you 15 points.

Are you really sold on the dozers? (I'm guessing the models already have them or something) If not, take them off the BSS squad Immos to save points.

I hope to build my SCS out of sister superior models with power swords, so I can make a counter-charge unit for my canoness to join.

I may get shouted down simply due to the usefulness of immos, and the points cost with no access to a laud hailer, but where do people stand on repressors? Frontal av 13 seems handy to me, I'm just not sure if I can justify the extra points that could go towards my third exorcist.

Myceron wrote:
I may get shouted down simply due to the usefulness of immos, and the points cost with no access to a laud hailer, but where do people stand on repressors? Frontal av 13 seems handy to me, I'm just not sure if I can justify the extra points that could go towards my third exorcist.

I think AV13 still has a place. The fact that you can put a MM in a Repressor for 140 is pretty nasty. AV 13 wall of doom.

Well guys, I am throwing my hat in there for a list. Short of proxing some razorbacks for Immolators, I am maxed out on what I have. Also, I am running a tad short on flamers and meltaguns, but such is life. This is for an 1850 list. There are a lot of Nid players who like to run psychic terivgons and the swarm lord, hence the stacking of condemnors.

Canoness (Rosarius, Mantle of St. O, Power Sword, Condemnor, Melta Bombs)
Priests x 4
Priest x 1 (LoF, Power Maul)
SCS (Dialogus, Heavy Flamer x 3, Multi-Melta) Immolator w / TL MM

Battle Sisters x 5 (Condemnor, Storm Bolter**, Multi-Melta)
Battle Sisters x 5 (Condemnor, Storm Bolter**, Multi-Melta)
Battle Sisters x 5 (Condemnor, Flamer, Multi-Melta)
Battle Sisters x 5 (Condemnor, Flamer, Multi-Melta)

Dominion x 6 (SI, Meltauns x 4, Vet) Imm w / TL MM and Laud Hailer
Dominion x 6 (SI, Meltauns x 4, Vet) Imm w / TL MM and Laud Hailer
Dominion x 10 (Condemnor, Flamer x 4) Rhino

Exorcist x 3

*** Will change to flamer if opponent is OK with proxying.

Why a MM on the SCS?
Also, you might as well make bigger squads, if you have the bolter girls for the BSS. Those 5 girl squads without vehicles are not going to survive long.
Why flamers on the 10 girl dominions in the Rhino? and why 10girls?

I'd probably skip adding girls to dominions unless I have points left over after getting the BSS I need for capping/contesting points.

 pretre wrote:
Yeah, swap meltas for Flamers. I can has typing good. That'll get you 15 points.

Are you really sold on the dozers? (I'm guessing the models already have them or something) If not, take them off the BSS squad Immos to save points.

Yeah, I am absolutely king of failing clutch immobilization rolls. I'll find a way to get the other 5 points for the second vet upgrade.

On a slightly different note (and this is because I absolutely LOVE the DK model) I wonder if Sisters and GK are better/worse/neutral now:

Jacobus/Celestine (need to put more thought into this and have the spare points for either)
Coteaz

Three BSS (HF, flamer, condemnor) in MM Immos
3 Plasma Cannons, 2 Jokeros, 5 acolytes in a chimera
3 acolytes in razorback with psybolt

Two 5 girl Dom squads (4MG condemnor) MM Immos

2 Exorcists
DK with sword, incinerator, teleporter

The more I stare at it the more I think pure sisters will be better... but doms + DK, backed up by exorcists and Coteaz-buffed plasma cannons is a nasty T1.

One of my buddies ran GK with Coteaz and a Crusader/DCA in a Storm Raven recently. So it still is not a bad idea.

Man, I didn't even think of the storm raven. Uhoh!

Yeah, it's a good one since it has Mindstrike and a lot of people are running heavy psychic.

quiestdeus wrote:
Man, I didn't even think of the storm raven. Uhoh!

You can't embark into an ally's transport though.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

quiestdeus wrote:
Man, I didn't even think of the storm raven. Uhoh!

You can't embark into an ally's transport though.

The Crusaders/DCA are a GK Henchman squad with Coteaz.

If you could embark on allied transports, repentia would actually be good.

 pretre wrote:
Why a MM on the SCS?

Because I only have 3 Heavy Flamer models. If they are fine with proxy, then it would be 4.

 pretre wrote:
Also, you might as well make bigger squads, if you have the bolter girls for the BSS. Those 5 girl squads without vehicles are not going to survive long.
Why flamers on the 10 girl dominions in the Rhino? and why 10girls?

I found the 10 dominion flamer car to be very effective at clearing out those infantry models you absolutely need dead early. Usually, this means anything with markerlights. While the rest of the army is drawing attention with multi-meltas and exorcist shots, this one gets conveniently ignored most of the time. It could just as easily be 5 with an Immolator,

Yeah, but it gives me something to do with my current Battle conclave models on the shelf.

Need to trim some fat, but Jacobus, some priests, Big sister blob, standard 10 sister rhino, 2 Dominion units, 2 exorcists, Coteaz, "Conclave", Raven, and DK is looking very interesting.