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 McNinja wrote:
Tau Interceptor guns are something to watch out for. I've lost a stormraven full of centurions to a riptide with EWO. The dude got very lucky, rolling a six to hit then two sixes to pen, but still.

A few questions:
1) Why were your centurions in a SR?
2) Why did they die? They just take a S10 hit, right? Cents have two wounds?

 pretre wrote:

 McNinja wrote:
Tau Interceptor guns are something to watch out for. I've lost a stormraven full of centurions to a riptide with EWO. The dude got very lucky, rolling a six to hit then two sixes to pen, but still.

A few questions:
1) Why were your centurions in a SR?
2) Why did they die? They just take a S10 hit, right? Cents have two wounds?

1) Because SR's are cool and not only did i want them upfield fast, I also wanted the firepower the SR brings.
2) A single S10 hit with no armor saves allowed. They are T5 with a 2+. Sadly, they were ID'd.

Honestly, I didn't expect my opponent to roll four sixes in a row. Then, somewhat hilariously, I then rolled 12" for the scatter of the wreckage. There were a lot of sixes that turn. Except when I tried to jink.

lol Okay, fair enough.

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Apparently that whole 'they were updated' thing is bollocks:

Games Workshop: Digital Editions Hi Charles,
They haven't, the ibooks edition of Codex:Adepta Sororitas revived a formating update to bring it in line with the new Apple Mavericks operating system for apple computers, but the rules are unchanged.

The eBook edition does not automatically update, but the date of the last update is always displayed on the product page, and you can re-download an up-to-date copy at any time from the 'my downloads' section of your account.

- Eddie

Psi-shock: Any psyker hit by a stake crossbow shot suffers the Perils of the Warp in addition to any other effects.

is what my iBook is saying too (after update).

Mine however still has the old rule despite four seperate updates.

Edit: five seperate updates. That's three yesterday and two today.

Maybe the folks with this different version try updating again and see if it changes?

And despite the fact that Digital Editions says they didn't change it.

Just got the updated ebook - it has:

Designer’s Note: Allies
To determine which armies your Adepta Sororitas detachments can ally with, replace the words ‘Sisters of Battle’ with ‘Adepta Sororitas’ on the Allies Matrix on page 113 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

Psi-shock: Any psyker hit by a stake crossbow shot suffers the Perils of the Warp in addition to any other effect

Random question, apologies if it's in the wrong place: Am I reading it right that the Hospitaller and Dialogus swap their boltguns but keep their bolt pistols?

Its more of a case that they just don't get Bolters............but effectively yes

 Mr Morden wrote:
Just got the updated ebook - it has:
Psi-shock: Any psyker hit by a stake crossbow shot suffers the Perils of the Warp in addition to any other effect

Beat me to it- I just downloaded it again this afternoon to see if an update was applied.
Sadly, it was.

At least its still on a hit and not a wound. Im really on the fence on how I feel about the usefulness of it now.

 OutlawBandit wrote:
At least its still on a hit and not a wound. Im really on the fence on how I feel about the usefulness of it now.

Considering hits aren't assigned to models in a unit, it is useless unless used against a single model psyker or a BoP unit.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Its more of a case that they just don't get Bolters............but effectively yes

Thanks

 pretre wrote:

 OutlawBandit wrote:
At least its still on a hit and not a wound. Im really on the fence on how I feel about the usefulness of it now.

Considering hits aren't assigned to models in a unit, it is useless unless used against a single model psyker or a BoP unit.

So that's a serious freaking nerf yes?

Not really, since it didn't work the way it was worded anyways.

Since it is the same wording as GK, it will be FAQ'd the same. Which means it only works if an UNSAVED wound is applied to a psyker.

Worthless.

KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 OutlawBandit wrote:
At least its still on a hit and not a wound. Im really on the fence on how I feel about the usefulness of it now.

Considering hits aren't assigned to models in a unit, it is useless unless used against a single model psyker or a BoP unit.

So that's a serious freaking nerf yes?

Yes it is useless unless you are firing your 1 use Lol Stake-Crossbow/Condemnor Boltgun at a unit that has every single model being a psyker, so awesome against the Sister natural enemy the Grey Knight but yeah pretty much useless vs. everything else.

 marcus.iscariat wrote:
Yes it is useless unless you are firing your 1 use Lol Stake-Crossbow/Condemnor Boltgun at a unit that has every single model being a psyker, so awesome against the Sister natural enemy the Grey Knight but yeah pretty much useless vs. everything else.

Nope, even worse. It has to be fired at a psyker unit or psyker with a 4+ save and no invul.

 pretre wrote:

 marcus.iscariat wrote:
Yes it is useless unless you are firing your 1 use Lol Stake-Crossbow/Condemnor Boltgun at a unit that has every single model being a psyker, so awesome against the Sister natural enemy the Grey Knight but yeah pretty much useless vs. everything else.

Nope, even worse. It has to be fired at a psyker unit or psyker with a 4+ save and no invul.

I thought firing at the Grey Knights was your best shot as they are all psykers but still a waste since you need to get through a 3+ or 2+ save before even trying to wound a T4 model with a Str5 weapon before the Condemnor effect even works.

Right. Probably your best shot would be a Weirdboy standing by himself.

Well true enough if you can find anyone even playing orks anymore

So I'm working on my SOB finally. After my recent project of painting practically all my SW, I'm going to do the same with my SOB. This gives me lots of options for lists, but here's the front runners right now:



Celest-Blob with Aegis



Bastion Blob



Blob with Aegis - No Celestine



Firestorm Redoubt





Still tinkering a lot and trying to find something I like.

 marcus.iscariat wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 marcus.iscariat wrote:
Yes it is useless unless you are firing your 1 use Lol Stake-Crossbow/Condemnor Boltgun at a unit that has every single model being a psyker, so awesome against the Sister natural enemy the Grey Knight but yeah pretty much useless vs. everything else.

Nope, even worse. It has to be fired at a psyker unit or psyker with a 4+ save and no invul.

I thought firing at the Grey Knights was your best shot as they are all psykers but still a waste since you need to get through a 3+ or 2+ save before even trying to wound a T4 model with a Str5 weapon before the Condemnor effect even works.

Maybe - but you don't need to wound only to hit to get the perils effect..............then your str 5 hit might also wound

The FAQ for GK says unsaved wound and it uses the same wording as the new AS wording. That's what I meant.

 pretre wrote:
The FAQ for GK says unsaved wound and it uses the same wording as the new AS wording. That's what I meant.

Well then for now as it stands PotW kicks in on the hit, until a possible FAQ later to make it on the unsaved wound.

Still, I agree that unless firing at a full unit of psykers or a single psyker by itself its kinda lame.
You would be precision shooting with your superior (or other character) so you could possibly single out the psyker who then of course would attempt the LOS.
Now that I think about it, if you did hit the psyker in that situation with a precision shot, would they still suffer the PotW because LOS is for wounds (saved or unsaved) not hits?

The new AS wording still says "hit" and not "wound" AFAIK.

Also, remember you can still get precision fire with it, so even against a hidden psyker, it got uses. (and LoS wont help, as LoS happens AFTER it hits. it only modifies who takes the wound, not the hit.)

Still confused how it works on mixed units though. even with just 2 psykers forming a squad, if the are not brotherhood, how can you tell who got "hit"?

 BoomWolf wrote:
The new AS wording still says "hit" and not "wound" AFAIK.

It does. But the FAQ for the exact same wording from C:GK says unsaved wound.

Either way I messaged the GW DE folks on Facebook about not being allocate hits so we'll see what happens I guess.

Anyone got a Quartermaster template for the new dex they can share? [I checked QMtemplates, no dice]. Thanks in advance

Edit - NVM, found it, dunno how my googlefoo missed it, apologies

With all this priest love opening up EBCs is taking a small group of 2 crusaders and 4 DCAs for a backfield counter charge (drop pod/deep-strike/etc) unit useful? Id imagine that with a list of MSU MM Immo spam +3 Exorcists that the target priority for them would be low.

 OutlawBandit wrote:
With all this priest love opening up EBCs is taking a small group of 2 crusaders and 4 DCAs for a backfield counter charge (drop pod/deep-strike/etc) unit useful? Id imagine that with a list of MSU MM Immo spam +3 Exorcists that the target priority for them would be low.

I actually ran a list with Arco Spam and priests. 4x 8 Arcos and 2 Crusaders. use the crusaders to tank shooting wounds. It was pretty hilarious and fun.