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I mean, I see what you're doing and it is cool, I just don't think it is as effective as one big blob with priest concentration and mobile support in vehicles. Especially in Maelstrom 6" + D6 run isn't going to cut it for getting all your objectives.

Also, Celestine can give that one blob Hit and Run. Jacobus can give them a 5++ and counter-attack. I just don't see infiltrate as that great a pull. (Also, Allied Hereticus can give you scout.)

 pretre wrote:
I mean, I see what you're doing and it is cool, I just don't think it is as effective as one big blob with priest concentration and mobile support in vehicles. Especially in Maelstrom 6" + D6 run isn't going to cut it for getting all your objectives.

Also, Celestine can give that one blob Hit and Run. Jacobus can give them a 5++ and counter-attack. I just don't see infiltrate as that great a pull. (Also, Allied Hereticus can give you scout.)

I totally agree that those are good and in some situations better.... but the more points you put in characters, the less bodies you have....

as far as mealstrom goes... infiltrate on the objectives... they can't get to the objectives... they can't win.... don't even need to infiltrate... just move onto them by moving and running...

When you go with jacobus... you have to acknowledge while you get a very strong turtle... if your opponent out ranges you... you done... you can't get to them and jacobus just prolongs your units death...

Now... That said... I personally run jacobus in my list currently. BUT he (or celestine) isn't the only way to viably run sisters... I just don't have the priest models to run this sisters list or I would.

I definitely don't think he's the only way, but I do think he's better off than a Canoness. Also, priests are an easy conversion. Get converting!

I've run the 20 girl blob with priests and jacobus. It is insanely fun.

 pretre wrote:
I definitely don't think he's the only way, but I do think he's better off than a Canoness. Also, priests are an easy conversion. Get converting!

I've run the 20 girl blob with priests and jacobus. It is insanely fun.

This is the list I'm bringing this sunday to a tourny near me. They are doing 2 CAD at 2000pts. The list will have issues vs long range tau.... but 4 exorcists should mitigate that.

In this list I used the cannoness as a way of unlocking the second CAD cheaply while also boosting the combat power of the blob.

The 7 sisters sit in the top of the bastion with quad gun and the other 5 man squad sits inside.

HQ Uriah (warlord) 100
HQ Priest with evisorator and litanies 70
HQ Priest with evisorator and shot gun 56
HQ Cannoness with evisorator 95
Troop 20 sisters, 2 meltas, vet with melta bomb 265
Troop 20 sisters, 2 meltas, vet with melta bomb 265
Troop 7 sisters with heavy bolter 94
Troop 5 sisters with heavy bolter 70
Fast 5 dominions with 4 meltas and a combi melta in a dozer MM immo 180
Fast 5 dominions with 4 meltas and a combi melta in a dozer MM immo 180
Fort Bastion with quad gun 125
Heavy exorcist 125
Heavy exorcist 125
Heavy exorcist 125
Heavy exorcist 125

Pinning test pinning, or tactically occupying 3 units?

I was thinking the game where you play Tau, or any shooty (i'd say a lot of Wyverns IG army might be worse) and you don't get infiltrate. That's where i see a very hard game...

 BlackTalos wrote:
Pinning test pinning, or tactically occupying 3 units?

I was thinking the game where you play Tau, or any shooty (i'd say a lot of Wyverns IG army might be worse) and you don't get infiltrate. That's where i see a very hard game...

agreed... but you do have the benefit of actually having a 3+ save vs wyverns.... where most horde armies don't. BUT in 40k... sometimes you get the hard matchups and need to just do your best to outplay the opponent... Hard counters exist : p

and the pinning test thing is strategic warlord trait 6... its "pick 3 enemy units, they must test for pinning" or something like that

Why so many eviscerators?

 frgsinwntr wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I definitely don't think he's the only way, but I do think he's better off than a Canoness. Also, priests are an easy conversion. Get converting!

I've run the 20 girl blob with priests and jacobus. It is insanely fun.

This is the list I'm bringing this sunday to a tourny near me. They are doing 2 CAD at 2000pts. The list will have issues vs long range tau.... but 4 exorcists should mitigate that.

In this list I used the cannoness as a way of unlocking the second CAD cheaply while also boosting the combat power of the blob.

The 7 sisters sit in the top of the bastion with quad gun and the other 5 man squad sits inside.

HQ Uriah (warlord) 100
HQ Priest with evisorator and litanies 70
HQ Priest with evisorator and shot gun 56
HQ Cannoness with evisorator 95
Troop 20 sisters, 2 meltas, vet with melta bomb 265
Troop 20 sisters, 2 meltas, vet with melta bomb 265
Troop 7 sisters with heavy bolter 94
Troop 5 sisters with heavy bolter 70
Fast 5 dominions with 4 meltas and a combi melta in a dozer MM immo 180
Fast 5 dominions with 4 meltas and a combi melta in a dozer MM immo 180
Fort Bastion with quad gun 125
Heavy exorcist 125
Heavy exorcist 125
Heavy exorcist 125
Heavy exorcist 125

Apart from the dominions, this feels too "static" for me. I never used to mechanize my troops, but since Maelstrom and Objective secured, it's almost a must.
As much as my priest had a plasma gun to get some shooting in, i'd agree with Pretre now: Drop the points and take them at 25pt bare. Unless you intend to charge Terminators, the 1 Eviscerator on canoness should deal enough AP2 imo.
I just really want Rhinos for the 7 BSS and 5 BSS...

 pretre wrote:
Why so many eviscerators?

My local meta has lots of wraithknights and imperial knights... so dealing with them in combat may be necessary... since the priests make you fearless you can't retreat and need to do some damage to them somehow.


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 BlackTalos wrote:

 frgsinwntr wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I definitely don't think he's the only way, but I do think he's better off than a Canoness. Also, priests are an easy conversion. Get converting!

I've run the 20 girl blob with priests and jacobus. It is insanely fun.

This is the list I'm bringing this sunday to a tourny near me. They are doing 2 CAD at 2000pts. The list will have issues vs long range tau.... but 4 exorcists should mitigate that.

In this list I used the cannoness as a way of unlocking the second CAD cheaply while also boosting the combat power of the blob.

The 7 sisters sit in the top of the bastion with quad gun and the other 5 man squad sits inside.

HQ Uriah (warlord) 100
HQ Priest with evisorator and litanies 70
HQ Priest with evisorator and shot gun 56
HQ Cannoness with evisorator 95
Troop 20 sisters, 2 meltas, vet with melta bomb 265
Troop 20 sisters, 2 meltas, vet with melta bomb 265
Troop 7 sisters with heavy bolter 94
Troop 5 sisters with heavy bolter 70
Fast 5 dominions with 4 meltas and a combi melta in a dozer MM immo 180
Fast 5 dominions with 4 meltas and a combi melta in a dozer MM immo 180
Fort Bastion with quad gun 125
Heavy exorcist 125
Heavy exorcist 125
Heavy exorcist 125
Heavy exorcist 125

Apart from the dominions, this feels too "static" for me. I never used to mechanize my troops, but since Maelstrom and Objective secured, it's almost a must.
As much as my priest had a plasma gun to get some shooting in, i'd agree with Pretre now: Drop the points and take them at 25pt bare. Unless you intend to charge Terminators, the 1 Eviscerator on canoness should deal enough AP2 imo.
I just really want Rhinos for the 7 BSS and 5 BSS...

I agree... but I don't want to give up first blood... and tournies do not run maelstrom missions yet near me. Not everyone has the cards and rolling in the book slows the whole event down.

If you're not on Maelstrom and cards then yeah, good list. Just know that if you start you'll really need mobility.

As to Imperial Knights, i play one myself in 2K, and having one is good against one =P

However, to deal with one without is relatively simple: Melta

One set of shots from a dominion squad WILL take down a knight. Of course, he can put his shields up for it, but with 4 Exorcists, he takes that he's down too
Not sure what your standard deployment is, but 2 Exos left, and 2 right, if the knight is near the middle he should die in a turn. If he's on a flank, dominions come in and pop

Here's what I've been running for Maelstrom, and it's been really effective against anything except 4 flying hive tyrants.

Detachment - Primary
HQ St. Celestine
FA 5x Dominions, 4x meltas, Rhino
FA 5x Dominions, 4x meltas, Rhino
TR 5x BSS, 1x melta, 1x heavy flamer, Rhino
TR 5x BSS, 1x melta, 1x heavy flamer, Rhino
HS Exorcist
HS Exorcist

Detachment - Secondary
HQ Canoness, Roasarius, Mantle
FA 5x Dominions, 4x meltas, Rhino
FA 5x Dominions, 4x meltas, Rhino
TR 5x BSS, 1x melta, 1x heavy flamer, Rhino
TR 5x BSS, 1x melta, 1x heavy flamer, Rhino
HS Exorcist
HS Exorcist

Detachment - Allied
Coteaz

Detachment - Fortification
Aegis, Quadgun

I'd have to check the weapon upgrades, but it should come out right at 2000 points. Celestine is by her lonesome to deep strike for an objective or to harass some troopers. I stick the canoness on the quad, and Coteaz goes in with some dominions somewhere. Eventually I'm going to drop the wall, and an exorcist for Avenger Strike Fighter's x2.

That is a sexy list! What's the purpose of Coteaz though? Seems really out of place.

He is. I have no idea why I have him in there... Extra warp charge points? the occasional prescienced ignores cover meltas? He's really useless since he's in a rhino a lot. I Might be better served with Jacobus, a couple rets, or 5 seraphim with flamers with celestine.

I really like that Dante/Seraphim combo you guys were talking about yesterday. He's on order now.

If you can scrounge the points a squad of rets in a bastion would be better.

Drop the wall and the canoness, for rets, jacobus, and a bastion. Give them a simulacrum for 3 turns of at rending goodness. i'm sure a BSS squad can donate a rhino to the cause.

Only downside is my exorcists are now naked and afraid.

 pretre wrote:
That is a sexy list! What's the purpose of Coteaz though? Seems really out of place.

Seize protection?

 deviantduck wrote:
Drop the wall and the canoness, for rets, jacobus, and a bastion. Give them a simulacrum for 3 turns of at rending goodness. i'm sure a BSS squad can donate a rhino to the cause.

Only downside is my exorcists are now naked and afraid.

I like that better. You should be able to get some cover on the board, plus you have the bastion and you can hide two behind it pretty easy with 25% coverage from most angles.

plus i usually move the Exorcists around, 6" every turn, to maximise cover and get WS1 =p

WS1 is auto now in 7th. isn't it?

Yep

oh, missed that then =p

In light of my upcoming tournament, and my first time (if i don't get a test game) using Jacobus+Priest+Canoness(Eviserator) in a Blob of 20 Sisters, how do players having used them before go about it?

Do you sit them snugly on a objective back/midfield?
or do they unrelentingly push forward mid-field?

 BlackTalos wrote:
In light of my upcoming tournament, and my first time (if i don't get a test game) using Jacobus+Priest+Canoness(Eviserator) in a Blob of 20 Sisters, how do players having used them before go about it?

Do you sit them snugly on a objective back/midfield?
or do they unrelentingly push forward mid-field?

Well, step one, drop the canoness for more priests and make sure to get the litany of faith for them.

Step two: Relentless push forward. You want to get them in hand to hand where they will wear down whatever they come into contact with. Sitting on an objective is a waste.

Maybe this has been answered before, but does the rosaries and the cloak of aspira stack? Or is it just your shield of faith invul 6+?

Thanks pretre.

St Aspira only re-rolls your 3+Armour and 6++ shield, nothing else (not the 4++ Rosarius, no)

Yeah. I was disappointed in the relics. If they had let you take both, you could have made a worthwhile Canoness, but nope.

I played with a priest bomb in a repressor in a lot of games in 6th. it was a huge point sink, and was either amazing, or died horribly without earning it's points back. probably 65/35 on success.

Canoness with axe, rosarius, and mantle
2 priests with mauls for str 5 ap2
2 priests with axes for reroll wound and save, 1 with litanies.
SCS Squad meltas x4
1 Hospitaler

So in assault it was 9 ap1 str 4 attacks, 6 str 5 ap2 attacks, and 5 sisters.
They reroll to hit first round, reroll to wound, and reroll failed saves and had FNP.

I think the mvp game for that squad it tanked an Archon and Farseer from the bottom of turn 1 to the top of turn 7, when it won combat.

Yeah, I like the blob:
20 Sisters with 2 Specials
Jacobus
4-5 Priests with Litanies and 1-2 Power Mauls

Hard to kill and fun as hell when it gets to something. Just chews it up.

Not tactics per se, but what models are people using for their priests, specifically female ones? I have some priest models, but am thinking about trying to make my force entirely female. Any help? Thanks.

I converted an old Bretonnian Damsel (the one with a staff and sword) into a priest, keeping the staff as a power maul and sawing off the sword to replace with a plasma pistol (she's not one of my commonly used priests, sadly.)