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Came across this and didn't know if there's a more suitable thread for it; anyway, here it is...

Personally I'm quite excited to try out the new assassins. They'll add some variety to the lists for us and yeah the Culexus seems like a major boost to a psyker-less army. The vindicare seems awesome too with the multiple ammunition types. A very safe bet to throw in a list if you're not sure what your opponent will throw at you.

ShaneTB: That's an awesome pic. I'm always impressed by 40k cosplay (or cosplayers in general!) but The Passion (teehee) SoB cosplayers put into their outfits are astounding.

There's a group in the States who vac form an SoB armor: https://www.facebook.com/FoamCorps

40k cosplaying is a lot of fun!

As for the new assassins, Culexus will be perfect against Seer Council, which always gives me troubles.

So I was planning on trying the Bastion + Retributors with an ammunition dump outside, within two inches to benefit my rets and my exorcists.

I then got into an argument with my opponent about the rets not being able to benefit from the ammo dump since they are inside the building, technically not on the table, and things inside transports/buildings cannot benefit from outside effects.

I could not find any rules to refute him so had to alter my strategy.


Since I saw this combo posted here, I figured I would this by veteran sister players and find out if anyone knows of a rule to justify this?


I could see this becoming a problem as well with the Culexus and his power to prevent psykers from generating warp charges... if said Psykers is inside a transport or a building, he's technically not on the table so someone could argue the culexus's power does not affect him.

I would imagine it's covered under the:

"If the players need to measure a range involving the embarked unit (except for its shooting), this is measured to or from the vehicle's hull."

bit of the embarkation rules in the vehicles section. It doesn't strictly speaking address them being on the table or not, but you can certainly determine whether or not they are within 2" of the depot.

Inquisition gives a Null Rod and Psyocculum for a blob of sisters to be death to any psykers that they can see. Now the Assassins let us shut down invisibility...

Mavnas wrote:
I would imagine it's covered under the:

"If the players need to measure a range involving the embarked unit (except for its shooting), this is measured to or from the vehicle's hull."

bit of the embarkation rules in the vehicles section. It doesn't strictly speaking address them being on the table or not, but you can certainly determine whether or not they are within 2" of the depot.

that quote should do it.

If models inside the bastion were able to benefit from the ammo dump, why would they also have an upgrade called ammo store that does the exact same thing, except only for models inside the bastion?

The ammo store upgrades the bastion itself, the other is merely an additional piece of terrain that can be bought by a variety of other fortifications too.

And the ammo store is cheaper than the dump.

I've never thought about this before, but can a ministorum priest be a legit HQ option for a detachment of sisters? It doesn't seem right, but off the top of my head i can't think of why it doesn't work. Is it because priests don't take up a slot in the FoC?

 deviantduck wrote:
I've never thought about this before, but can a ministorum priest be a legit HQ option for a detachment of sisters? It doesn't seem right, but off the top of my head i can't think of why it doesn't work. Is it because priests don't take up a slot in the FoC?

"An Adepta Sororitas Detachment may include 0-5 Ministorum Priests. They do not take up a Force Organisation slot, and do not qualify as a mandatory HQ selection."

You're the best. Now that won't be on my brain until i get home from work.

Also, thursday, i think i'm going to run a vindicare in a bastion with a void shield, and put the retributors on the roof.

 deviantduck wrote:
You're the best. Now that won't be on my brain until i get home from work.

Also, thursday, i think i'm going to run a vindicare in a bastion with a void shield, and put the retributors on the roof.

You should do the opposite. Rets inside and Vindicare on the roof. Rets can run the extra HB.

That's what i normally have, but the vindicare is such lascanon bait. I'd like him to live beyond turn 1.

 deviantduck wrote:
That's what i normally have, but the vindicare is such lascanon bait. I'd like him to live beyond turn 1.

He's still Lascannon bait inside it since Glances/Pens give him an Ignores Cover hit. At least on top he has a 3+ cover save and the Void Shield.

Isn't up top 4+ ruins, same as his invuln? And the hits allocated to the assassin inside from a pen on the building are only S6, so no instant death.

I didn't realize they removed the 'each hit with glance or pen also causes the same strength hit with no cover to the unit' from 6th.


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Also, he has stealth, so 3+ battlement save.

Vindi has stealth.

 pretre wrote:

 deviantduck wrote:
You're the best. Now that won't be on my brain until i get home from work.

Also, thursday, i think i'm going to run a vindicare in a bastion with a void shield, and put the retributors on the roof.

You should do the opposite. Rets inside and Vindicare on the roof. Rets can run the extra HB.

I'd agree with this for the 5th rending HB. If it makes the assassin a bit more of a target, meh

Plus, remember that being in the battlements he's still Void shield covered, so Turn 1 that 2 Las canons at least...
And on the second Las shot, i'd rather roll a 4++ (or 3+ Ruins+stealth) for the guy than loosing 3 units (Bastion+Rets+Vindicaire) because he crumbled the building...

I have always heard "shoot the building he's in, not the vindicaire" so that'd be my tactic against one!

vindicare in a bastion is a big deal. But i don't see what that model adds to the list that allies wouldn't be better at....

Babysitting a vindicate in a tooled up bastion seems awfully expensive for what he brings to the table.

I am not even sure he's really that worthwhile compared to some other assassins. He will likely draw some anti tank fire and it only takes one lucky missile to finish him off. There's only so much a 3+ cover save can do.

Assuming he survives past the early turns he kill 1 model a phase at best, sniper kills no longer make you do pinning checks so he's not messing with the unit either. Shooting at tanks he can do some damage, but he's not that great at outright blowing them up.


I like the Calidus best myself. Calidus can really mess up heavy weapons team. Deploy her as close as possible out of line of sight and watch your opponent either move his heavys to charge you first or lose them on the next turn.

Culexus is nice, but delivering him to where the psykers are, when all your opponent need to do is stay 12 inches away, is not going to be easy.

Ill try fielding one of each in my next game and see how they fare.

Has anyone thought about borrowing a GK librarian or two to put in a unit of Repentia and use Gate of Infinity to get them across the board? Any reasons it wouldn't work now we're BBFs?

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Has anyone thought about borrowing a GK librarian or two to put in a unit of Repentia and use Gate of Infinity to get them across the board? Any reasons it wouldn't work now we're BBFs?

That just means they still can't assault when they get there... If you have to use repentia, a land raider is probably a better idea.

Mmh, but it can avoid line of sight issues and arrive somewhere unexpected.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Mmh, but it can avoid line of sight issues and arrive somewhere unexpected.

And get shot to pieces before you get chance to charge? No thanks.

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Well, that's why you have the guys in terminator armour standing somewhere relevantly shot-soakey.

Repentias in a land raider are very under whelming for testing them.

Any lucky over watch shots will more than likely kill a few and once they've slaughtered whatever they hit (which usually happens the turn they charge), they will get shot to death. They are honestly too much of a one trick pony to work well.

If you're getting a land raider, get one for an inquisition henchman team of Crusaders and Death cults and attach 2 or 3 priests.

The above has never let me down. They have killed everything they have hit including a solid space wolves cavalry death star.

I've had limited successes with a Land Raider and Repentia by including one or 2 characters with a real save (Coteaz or Canoness for instance), some priests and then multi-charging.

Of course the same can by done with Crusaders/Death Cultists, but my Sisters Repentia want table time!

The change to their Act of Faith really hurts though against opponents that kill em before they can strike.

What has everyone been running as far as lists go? I'm a long-time player just starting Sisters and I've been following this thread awhile. I'm starting to wrap my head around the unit-by-unit tactics but I haven't seen anyone put it all together in a way that really speaks to me yet.

Any ideas? What lists have you guys had the most success/fun with?