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**ncshooter426**

pretre wrote:
ncshooter426 wrote:
So, last year I did the unthinkable -- I stopped playing 40K and subsequently sold my SoB army (went to a good home).

Well, it's one of the few actions in my years of hobbying that I actually regret. Out of all the armies across countless IPs, I missed the Sisters the most. So now, here I am, trying to rectify the situation. I plan on building a new AS force - leaner, meaner, with 10% more heresy fighting power! I know there have been some shakeups with the 40K rules as of late, and who allies are these days...

but if you were to build a nice 1500pt *casual* store play army, what would you go with? My LGS has zero AS players (guy @ the store was actually sad when I sold my army :( ) so it's mostly them vs. Marines/Tau/Nids. Very few chaos players last time I checked.

Allies wise, I still have (I think...)

20-30 Kasirkin (old metal ones) IG. Just loved the old lasgun look
2 Valkyries
2 Inquisitors
2 Rhinos that were pending conversion into Exorcists
Smattering of marines from various sets (probably 20 termies, 40 tacs, etc)
2 Leviathans from Dreamforge -- Unusable at GW stores, but still fun to paint up on the odd change I play at non GW location and use as knight proxies.

10lbs (yes.. 10lbs.) of tyranids to use as target practice

So, I'd like to be able to use the inquisition/IG forces somehow in the build, but aren't opposed to using Marines (muuuch rather use IG/Inqisition though).

Budget: Let's keep it under 400$

If you want a small casual army, go for:

Celestine
2 BSS with Melta/Flamer in Rhinos/Immos
2 Dominions with 4 Melta in Rhinos/Immos
Seraphim Squad
2 Exorcists

Then add in any of your allies to buff up points. Good luck keeping it under 400 though. There's a guy on Bartertown selling a butt ton of infantry for a good price right now.

I've tried to register over at BT before, and even post in the required section to get the account unlocked - but it never works :| I'll try again, hopefully I can ping that guy looking to unload his sisters (unless he/she also posts here...never know).

**L1ttle**

This month I will play a kill team battle against DE.
We have two possible missions to play. (Determind by dice roll)

The first one the mission is to kill the oppontents leader and specialists.
The other is a Defence/offence mission in wich the attacker needs to get as many models of the board in the Defenders end Zone.

Since I'm going to play against our top ranking player in our kill team campaign I would like some of your advice.

Is this a valiable list?

5 BSS, flamer, HF, Rhino
5 Seraphim, 1x hand flamer.
Specialists:
BSS random bolter sister with scout.
Serpaphim with hf: Split Fire
Last one is yet to be decided

**ALEXisAWESOME**

This Dark Eldar player will take either 2 Venoms or a fully packed Raider. He just will, its easily abusable in kill team where barely anything can touch you in a 3+ jinking AV 10 vehicle. You need something to break his Raiders. Not like a Melta Gun, but something like a Heavy Bolter with Ignores Cover, more shots = better.

**BlackTalos**

ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
This Dark Eldar player will take either 2 Venoms or a fully packed Raider. He just will, its easily abusable in kill team where barely anything can touch you in a 3+ jinking AV 10 vehicle. You need something to break his Raiders. Not like a Melta Gun, but something like a Heavy Bolter with Ignores Cover, more shots = better.

Because a melta gun (or 4) with "Ignores Cover" will not be enough?

I seriously question Adepta Sororitas who do not take a 4-Melta Dominion Unit.
Outflank
Ignores Cover
No LoS in Kill-Team

= Melta Dominions Auto-include

**L1ttle**

I agree that a unit of Dominions would also work.
The downside is that I have 50% chance of rolling on the attacker/defender mission. This mission outflanking isn't allowed. On top of that if I were to be the attacker. They would have to walk across tje board...

Normally I play this:
5 BSS, Flamer, HB, combi-plasma
5 Dominions, 4 melta, combi-plasma

But because of the mission and the fast moving DE. I feel like I need more mobility.

Besides, I'm sure that a couple of Krak-grenades would also do the job.

**BlackTalos**

L1ttle wrote:
But because of the mission and the fast moving DE. I feel like I need more mobility.

Besides, I'm sure that a couple of Krak-grenades would also do the job.

Ah yes, if you cannot outflank that would make sense.

Also note that every sister can now throw a Krak at range 8", as the limit is one throw per squad

Also i've seen some very nice Seraphim lists. I like the one with 9 Seraphim, 1 Hand flamer, 1 Inferno.

**Green is Best!**

OK... so, I am hoping to get to an 1850 tournament next week. I a am finally going to have my Repentant Host ready (whether I can use the formation or not is another matter). Either way, I plan to purge my enemies with fire. However, I would like to fine tune this list:

Canoness

BSS with Heavy Bolter
BSS with Multi Melta

Dominion Squad (4 meltaguns) + TLMM Immolator
Dominion Squad (4 meltaguns) + TLMM Immolator

Repentia x 10 w/ Rhino
Repentia x 10 w/ Rhino
Repentia x 10 w/ Rhino

3x Penitent Engine
3x Penitent Engine
2x Penitent Engine

I have about 95 points to play with. I doubt the Repentant Host formation will be legal. If that is the case, I can drop a repentia per squad and add in a priest.

Other thoughts:
- Should I just put the repentia on foot and have them run behind the penitent engines in an almost Imperial Kan Wall formation?
- If so, that would free up points (and models) to put my BSS squads in rhinos or Immolators.
- I had St. Celestine in there, but did not see any real place to put her. Adding her means adding Seraphim, which means something else has to go.

Other restrictions:
That is ALL the repentia and pen engine models I have, so no adding more. I am capped out on rhino / immolators short of borrowing ones painted for space marines. (doable, just not as visually appealing).

**BlackTalos**

I would really drop the canoness.

For this list, i think Jacobus would work pretty well, either in an Immolator, but better with a Repentia Squad.
Possibly upgrade said Squad to a Repressor, survivability and space rather than for the Firepoints...

**Green is Best!**

Yeah. I thought about adding Uriah as well.

It really comes down to if they let me use the Repentant Host formation. If they do, I need to keep my repentia squads at 10. If they don't (which I suspect they won't), I can drop some down to 9 in order to make room for Uriah and Priests. We need to keep those girls focused on their atonement!!!!

**pretre**

I'd ditch the Repentia rhinos and get some for the BSS. If you can add uriah or Celestine, that'd be great. Have them attach to the Repentia.

**Green is Best!**

So footslog the repentia behind the engines?
If I do that, I can easily put the BSS in Immolators and and in Uriah.

**pretre**

Yep. Do that. It's not good but it is better.

**ncshooter426**

So let's talk transports. Out of my 20 years of 40K, I've only actually played a handful of games. And of those games, nearly all my armies are foot sloggers.

As fate would have it, I'm now in possession of 10 rhinos (thank you craigslist! LOL) for an absurdly low price. Would it be advantageous to give every BSS/HQ unit their own dedicated transport -- and out of the BSS would it be advantageous to run 2x flamer units and fire from the top? Does the old "Dump 'em, shoot, then flat-out to block" cycle still work in the current meta?

**MrFlutterPie**

Transports are very much recommended for the sisters

We also believe in the "She who bails, fails' method." Keep your squads in their transports and use the 2 fire points to shoot your 2 special weapons. Remember if your transport gets assaulted you can over watch with the embarked squad. I've surprised a few opponents with 2D3 wall of fire shots from my fire points

**ncshooter426**

MrFlutterPie wrote:
Transports are very much recommended for the sisters

We also believe in the "She who bails, fails' method." Keep your squads in their transports and use the 2 fire points to shoot your 2 special weapons. Remember if your transport gets assaulted you can over watch with the embarked squad. I've surprised a few opponents with 2D3 wall of fire shots from my fire points

So you leave them in, and just rush to objectives to cap or? Interesting note about overwatch, sounds like fun.

**pretre**

I'm so glad that 'she who bails, fails.' stuck.

**MrFlutterPie**

ncshooter426 wrote:
MrFlutterPie wrote:
Transports are very much recommended for the sisters

We also believe in the "She who bails, fails' method." Keep your squads in their transports and use the 2 fire points to shoot your 2 special weapons. Remember if your transport gets assaulted you can over watch with the embarked squad. I've surprised a few opponents with 2D3 wall of fire shots from my fire points

So you leave them in, and just rush to objectives to cap or? Interesting note about overwatch, sounds like fun.

Don't worry your rides will popped fairly quickly but until then take advantage of the rhino's armour. You will want to rush up to enemy armour with meta guns and try kill enemy tanks while your flamer squads do the same against infantry. You can also use the extra mobility to start grabbing objectives. We work best at 6"-12" range so even just going flat out one turn can help us close the gap for our short range weapons.

pretre wrote:I'm so glad that 'she who bails, fails.' stuck.

Catchy ain't it

"Let it be known that St. Alicia Dominica, blessed who gave birth to our order taught her loyal followers that that she who bails from her most holy transport provided by the immortal god Emperor in which he protects the faithful shall feel the wrath of the heretics, mutants and witches and will surely fail in her most holy and scared duty. "

Select teachings of the Ecclesiarchy Vol. XXXXIIIIV
Recorded by cleric pretre

**pretre**

More amusing when you know what pretre means.

**MrFlutterPie**

pretre wrote:
More amusing when you know what pretre means.

I love it when a plan comes together

**Inevitable_Faith**

At the risk of sounding ignorant what does Pretre mean?

**BlackTalos**

Inevitable_Faith wrote:
At the risk of sounding ignorant what does Pretre mean?

Not ignorant, simply not versed in all languages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretre

Green is Best! wrote:
Yeah. I thought about adding Uriah as well.

It really comes down to if they let me use the Repentant Host formation. If they do, I need to keep my repentia squads at 10. If they don't (which I suspect they won't), I can drop some down to 9 in order to make room for Uriah and Priests. We need to keep those girls focused on their atonement!!!!

Not too sure about the footslogging of everyone...

I'd say take 1 Repressor. It has transport capacity 12. That means that you can still take the Repentant Host formation AND put Jacobus and a priest with them =)
It all fits in your spare 95pts, but if not, spare one Rhino and Footslog 1 Squad. With the other 2 in Rhino+Repressor, the enemy will be busy

**Green is Best!**

Well, I spoke to the TO over the weekend and the Repentant Host formation will not be allowed. So, I am revising the list as follows:

Uriah Jacobus
Priest w/ Mace of Valaan

5x Battle Sister Squad (2 flamers) w/ TLMM Immolator
5x Battle Sister Squad (Multimelta) w/ Rhino

5x Dominion Squad (4 meltaguns) w/ TLMM Immolator
5x Dominion Squad (4 meltaguns) w/ TLMM Immolator
5x Dominion Squad (4 meltaguns) w/ TLMM Immolator

10x Repentia Sister Squad
10x Repentia Sister Squad

3x Penitent Engine
3x Penitent Engine
2x Penitent Engine

I am not completely sold on the priest with the mace, but I have the old Kyrzimov model that I would like to use... so, there ya go. I am hoping that I have enough scouting Dominions to keep an opponent distracted in order to advance my engines and repentia.

I plan to put the priest with one repentia and Uriah with the other. It may not make the most tactical sense, but it feels right from a fluff sense.

**BlackTalos**

Green is Best! wrote:
Well, I spoke to the TO over the weekend and the Repentant Host formation will not be allowed. So, I am revising the list as follows:

Uriah Jacobus
Priest w/ Mace of Valaan

5x Battle Sister Squad (2 flamers) w/ TLMM Immolator
5x Battle Sister Squad (Multimelta) w/ Rhino

5x Dominion Squad (4 meltaguns) w/ TLMM Immolator
5x Dominion Squad (4 meltaguns) w/ TLMM Immolator
5x Dominion Squad (4 meltaguns) w/ TLMM Immolator

10x Repentia Sister Squad
10x Repentia Sister Squad

3x Penitent Engine
3x Penitent Engine
2x Penitent Engine

I am not completely sold on the priest with the mace, but I have the old Kyrzimov model that I would like to use... so, there ya go. I am hoping that I have enough scouting Dominions to keep an opponent distracted in order to advance my engines and repentia.

I plan to put the priest with one repentia and Uriah with the other. It may not make the most tactical sense, but it feels right from a fluff sense.

I really preferred the old list with the Repressor option... but i guess this new one could be more competitive.
How many points to spare?

Don't like the mace: drop Mace of Valaan, take Power Maul, The Litanies of Faith. +5 pts
Much much better result. Then this priest+Jacobus with the Repentia.
I guess it's not as good with 10 Repentia than with 20 sisters, but i'm sure it'll help more...

Flamer sisters will have more fun in a Rhino, you have quite a few TL MM + 4 Meltas already.... Are you facing a full-Mech?

Same for MM Sister squad: They'd probably have more fun with a HF from their Rhino, possibly a melta-gun. Depends on points of course.

Not going to go into Exorcists. But i feel you're dropping the CC-theme for Dominion-spam, and it's back to Dominion+Exorcist Spam (Standard list)... So i preferred the first list!

**Green is Best!**

Well, there is the fact I don't have repressors. That is the main reason I am not fielding them. So, going back and forth on this one:

Uriah
Priest w/ Power Maul + Litanies (and I still get to use the Kyrzimov model)

Battle Sister Squad (2 Flamers) w/ TL MM Immolator
Battle Sister Squad (Storm Bolter Sgt, Flamer, MultiMelta) w/ TL MM Immolator

Dominion Squad (4 MG) w/ TL MM Immolator
Dominion Squad (4 MG) w/ TL MM Immolator

10x Repentia Sister Squad
10x Repentia Sister Squad
10x Repentia Sister Squad

3x Penitent Engine
3x Penitent Engine
2x Penitent Engine

Thanks again for the input.

And I love Exorcists. I have three. But the whole point of this was to try out the Pen Engines and Repentia. I have seen TONS of internet hate about how awful they are, etc. I would just like to try out first hand and see. Who knows? Maybe they actually do something.

**pretre**

Inevitable_Faith wrote:
At the risk of sounding ignorant what does Pretre mean?

It means priest in French.

It is short for my much older screen name (from BBS days), Le Pretre De Voyou (The Hoodlum Priest).

**BlackTalos**

I'm quite sure you can use a Rhino as a Repressor (even by temporarily affixing a heavy flamer, etc... but up to you on that one.
You went completely the other way with the Rhino comment lol.

How i'd like to see the list, probably makes it better to get across:

Uriah
Priest w/ Power Maul + Litanies (and I still get to use the Kyrzimov model)

Battle Sister Squad (2 Flamers), Rhino or Battle Sister Squad (Heavy Flamer), Rhino (to save points)
Battle Sister Squad (Heavy Flamer), Rhino

Dominion Squad (4 MG) w/ TL MM Immolator
Dominion Squad (4 MG) w/ TL MM Immolator

10x Repentia Sister Squad, Rhino
10x Repentia Sister Squad, Rhino
10x Repentia Sister Squad, Repressor (<- Uriah + Kyrzimov)

3x Penitent Engine
3x Penitent Engine
2x Penitent Engine

I think it's still a little above points cost, but that's the general idea.
Everything Rolls up forward (T1), disembark behind your transports (T2), charge (T3). With that much stuff driving up, "Overwhelm" might be a small word...

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pretre wrote:
Inevitable_Faith wrote:
At the risk of sounding ignorant what does Pretre mean?

It means priest in French.

It is short for my much older screen name (from BBS days), Le Pretre De Voyou (The Hoodlum Priest).

but but but....

Your flag always says "US" for me >.>

**pretre**

BlackTalos wrote:
I'm quite sure you can use a Rhino as a Repressor (even by temporarily affixing a heavy flamer, etc... but up to you on that one.

I use the sister of battle immolator kit with the turret SB and glued on a heavy flamer from the immo kit to that. Then I put on a heavy IG dozer blade on the front (as opposed to the light dozers from the SOB sprue). I use those as Repressors. For rhinos, I use rhinos without the SOB kit and Immos are just immos with the SOB kit.

pretre wrote:
Inevitable_Faith wrote:
At the risk of sounding ignorant what does Pretre mean?

It means priest in French.

It is short for my much older screen name (from BBS days), Le Pretre De Voyou (The Hoodlum Priest).

but but but....

Your flag always says "US" for me >.>

That's because I'm from the US but happen to be a francophone.

**Green is Best!**

With this:

10x Repentia Sister Squad, Repressor (<- Uriah + Kyrzimov)

What is the role of Uriah and Kyrzimov in this squad?
I am guessing one is to reroll invul saves. What is the second? Reroll to wound?

The smash attack seems wasted in a squad of str6 ap 2 armourbane attacks.

Just wondering.

**Mavnas**

The smash priest might get to swing and remove some things before I1 potentially saving some of your sisters.

**Belac Ynnead**

Mavnas wrote:
The smash priest might get to swing and remove some things before I1 potentially saving some of your sisters.

Smash-Priest. Hmm - I'm thinking some kind of pseudo-heretical SoB Repentia garage band? Maybe a little bit emo?