Rumored Fortification / Escalation (Apoc in 40k) Books

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**Azreal13**

pretre wrote:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/11/escalation-and-lords-of-war.html

an anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:
Escalation gives each army access to at least one Lord of War that are for 'regular' 40k games. There appears to be a difference from Apocalypse and regular 40k games, but the exact rules for them I do not know. Any Lords of War though are expensive in points, and I have been told that the Khorne Lord of Skulls matches the point value found in apocalypse, sitting at 888pts.

There are only certain units that are in escalation, so no others are allowed for regular 40k games. There are only 16 listed in the new book. As to the point level of the games, there is mention of 1500 or 2000pt games. Here are the known models that can be used for regular games in Escalation.

Imperial Guard-Baneblade or Shadowsword
Chaos Space Marines-Khorne Lord of Skulls
Space Marines: Thunderhawk
Tyranids: Harridan
Eldar and Dark Eldar: Revenant Titan
Necrons: Necron Obelisk
Ork: Stompa

Hmmm, that would only need three kits to make it an all plastic lineup?

Interesting.

Unlikely, but interesting.

**pretre**

Any rumor with Plastic Thunderhawk? Automatically false.

**Azreal13**

I know.

**Bull0**

Shandara wrote:
In news somewhat related to Apocalypse/Fortifcations, I received the following in the mail:

Spoiler:

Together with replacement datasheets. I was pleasantly surprised.

That's a surprising amount of effort for GW to go to. True story: my "numbered" Chaos Space Marines Ltd Ed book had two separate numbering cards in it. It's either number six hundred and something or number one hundred and something. :/
Ultimately this was the harbinger for an overall disappointing book

**Troike**

pretre wrote:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/11/escalation-and-lords-of-war.html

an anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:
Escalation gives each army access to at least one Lord of War that are for 'regular' 40k games. There appears to be a difference from Apocalypse and regular 40k games, but the exact rules for them I do not know. Any Lords of War though are expensive in points, and I have been told that the Khorne Lord of Skulls matches the point value found in apocalypse, sitting at 888pts.

There are only certain units that are in escalation, so no others are allowed for regular 40k games. There are only 16 listed in the new book. As to the point level of the games, there is mention of 1500 or 2000pt games. Here are the known models that can be used for regular games in Escalation.

Imperial Guard-Baneblade or Shadowsword
Chaos Space Marines-Khorne Lord of Skulls
Space Marines: Thunderhawk
Tyranids: Harridan
Eldar and Dark Eldar: Revenant Titan
Necrons: Necron Obelisk
Ork: Stompa

Wonder what the SoB will get out of this? Something new and unique to them would be awesome, but a Baneblade variant or something would also be fun.

The GK are in a similar boat, actually. They could get something unique, but a variant of something else is also possible.

**Rinkydink**

Tau are also absent.

For the supplement to work you'd think they'd need to cover all existing armies.

**Troike**

Rinkydink wrote:
Tau are also absent.

For the supplement to work you'd think they'd need to cover all existing armies.

I don't think they're absent, it seems like the source... just doesn't know about them, maybe? Note how they say that there's 16 in the book, but only list 8 superheavies.

**Azreal13**

Also, I don't think there's a Tau Superheavy that would be balanced in any way for normal 40K is there?

Not hugely familiar with FW Tau, but can only think of the Manta.

**RiTides**

One the rumors says December... there's no way we could see this and Tyranids in December, right? (Given the rumor that the Hobbit box was delayed and so the nids moved up)

One of those seemingly has to be wrong...

**pretre**

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/11/stronghold-assault-and-its.html

an anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:
Stronghold Assault adds a lot of Fortifications into regular games of 40k, and it appears most of the new ones are from the Wall of Martyrs sets. There are 17 new datasheets for fortifications.

Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Line is two sets of trenches for 80pts that only take up one fortifications slot, while a Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Emplacement is a single trench for 40pts. So there are lots of new options, that include multiple fortifications and brings them into a single foc slot.

Here are some of the new fortifications options
Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Emplacement
Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Line
Macro Cannon Aquila Strongpoint
Skyshield Landing Pad (can be upgraded to start a flyer on it)
Imperial Strongpoint (two bastions and an aegis defense line)
Imperial Defense Network (defense line, defense emplacement, imperial bunker, and a pair of vengeance weapon batteries) Can add quad-autocannons to the bunker

There are three new Seige War missions also included in the release

**spectreoneone**

azreal13 wrote:
Also, I don't think there's a Tau Superheavy that would be balanced in any way for normal 40K is there?

Not hugely familiar with FW Tau, but can only think of the Manta.

The Tau have the two Tigershark variants as superheavies as well. I could definitely see the standard Tigershark being valid, but the AX-1-0, being armed with a twin-linked Heavy Railgun (a "D" weapon) would be a little ridiculous. That being said, I'd love it if they'd make a plastic model of it, but I don't see it, along with a plastic Thunderhawk, happening. It will be interesting to see how having superheavies in "standard" 40k will play out. I can see it really shaking up some of the metas out there.

**jonolikespie**

pretre wrote:

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/11/stronghold-assault-and-its.html

an anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:
Stronghold Assault adds a lot of Fortifications into regular games of 40k, and it appears most of the new ones are from the Wall of Martyrs sets. There are 17 new datasheets for fortifications.

Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Line is two sets of trenches for 80pts that only take up one fortifications slot, while a Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Emplacement is a single trench for 40pts. So there are lots of new options, that include multiple fortifications and brings them into a single foc slot.

Here are some of the new fortifications options
Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Emplacement
Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Line
Macro Cannon Aquila Strongpoint
Skyshield Landing Pad (can be upgraded to start a flyer on it)
Imperial Strongpoint (two bastions and an aegis defense line)
Imperial Defense Network (defense line, defense emplacement, imperial bunker, and a pair of vengeance weapon batteries) Can add quad-autocannons to the bunker

There are three new Seige War missions also included in the release

So.. that expansion is just new rules for using those impractically huge terrain pieces?

**Kroothawk**

jonolikespie wrote:
So.. that expansion is just new rules for using those impractically huge terrain pieces?

Yep, in addition to that expansion with new rules for using those impractically super heavy units.
What did you expect: Real Xeno terrain? Hah!