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 Gitkikka wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Gitkikka wrote:
Plastic gnolls? At last a source of Khornegor.

Gnolls as Khornegor?




Don't make me laugh....

The Auld Grump - preparing for plastic gnolls and Legacy of Fire, no laughing matter.

You play with your army mens the way you want to, and I'll play with my army mens the way I want to.

That wasn't meant as an insult - I am picturing Khornegors laughing like hyenas - if you have ever heard them up close, that laugh is really freakin' scary - and hyenas can bite through a three inch lead pipe.

They do not steal food from lions - lions steal food from them.

I will be using hyena laughs for the Legacy of Fire Adventure Path - that was more of a suggestion than anything else.

The Auld Grump - and the female hyena is both larger and worse natured - and has more testosterone than the males....

*EDIT* In short, I liked the idea of hyena men as Khornegors, I think hyena men work just fine in that role.

Female hyenas also have penises. Just sayin', creepiest mammals ever.

 Wehrkind wrote:
Female hyenas also have penises. Just sayin', creepiest mammals ever.

Wut.

 Wehrkind wrote:
Female hyenas also have penises. Just sayin', creepiest mammals ever.

That's actually the clitoris. I'm not sure if that's the case for all varieties, or just the spotted Hyenas though. They're also matriarchal and have an intelligence level that surpasses most primates. Hyenas are rather interesting animals.

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

Spoiler:

 Gitkikka wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Gitkikka wrote:
Plastic gnolls? At last a source of Khornegor.

Gnolls as Khornegor?




Don't make me laugh....

The Auld Grump - preparing for plastic gnolls and Legacy of Fire, no laughing matter.

You play with your army mens the way you want to, and I'll play with my army mens the way I want to.

That wasn't meant as an insult - I am picturing Khornegors laughing like hyenas - if you have ever heard them up close, that laugh is really freakin' scary - and hyenas can bite through a three inch lead pipe.

They do not steal food from lions - lions steal food from them.

I will be using hyena laughs for the Legacy of Fire Adventure Path - that was more of a suggestion than anything else.

The Auld Grump - and the female hyena is both larger and worse natured - and has more testosterone than the males....

*EDIT* In short, I liked the idea of hyena men as Khornegors, I think hyena men work just fine in that role.

Oh, not a problem! I'm just excited that my old dog-headed Citadel beastmen will finally have proper playmates.
Also, this thread went to a weird place with the lesson in hyena anatomy

Latest 3up posted to Facebook.

Not as good as a space marine sculpt. #FAIL

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Not as good as a space marine sculpt. #FAIL

I'm glad it's opposite day... I'm so sick of space marines, that the plastics from Warhammer Fantasy Regiments back in 1987 are better than every space marine sculpt that I see.

Now that looks a lot better.

I like this new example loads better. I think maybe the first one was just a bad choice of pose or photo or something.

 Barzam wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
Female hyenas also have penises. Just sayin', creepiest mammals ever.

That's actually the clitoris. I'm not sure if that's the case for all varieties, or just the spotted Hyenas though. They're also matriarchal and have an intelligence level that surpasses most primates. Hyenas are rather interesting animals.

That is true, though since they have the same bone to make it do its thing, pee through it, and use it to mount each other (perhaps only when young) it is functionally nearly identical. For my purposes at least

They are interesting creatures indeed! But man... if someone set out to design an animal that would be repellent to humans with the only stipulation that it had to be a mammal with the normal mammal details, it would be hard to imagine a more successful design. Maybe naked mole rats. I mean, sure regular rats are considered unpleasant, but just about every aspect of hyenas seems intended to displease humans.

Much like the frostgrave gnolls seem to be, but not in a good way. Really not impressed with that model... I am not certain I think it is even better than the 90's era Ral Partha gnolls.

Ehhh... Better than that archer version, but still falls well short, IMHO, of what the box art promises... Pity, but we'll see if they can continue to improve the look.

As it stands, I'm not seeing those models on my "I want to buy some" list...

Valete,

JohnS

Ral Partha made gnolls?

I have forgotten in my old age.

Looks... alright.

Still don't mind, as I want plastic animal people.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Ral Partha made gnolls?

I have forgotten in my old age.

Looks... alright.

Still don't mind, as I want plastic animal people.

Yea, they had a few different versions. Most were more upright than we might expect now, but the heads were pretty nice. I had the Gnoll army box:



It had a number of multipart, mix and match metal infantry and then a Flind shaman with flindbar and a gnoll chieftain. One of these days I am going to strip off my "I am 13 and learning to paint before the internet!" paint jobs and do them up nicely. Along with my "Bilidum and the Ogre Mauraders of Spiderhaunt" army box, among others.

None of these are mine, but here's what they looked like;




Note they are also 25mm scale, so they are not much taller than regular infantry these days.

The Otherworld Miniatures gnolls are my favorite gnolls on the market:

Ah Otherworld. Sort of retro, sort of bad ass, often tricky to find in stock.

I do like that Otherworld gnoll, very cool!

 judgedoug wrote:
Latest 3up posted to Facebook.

"Who's a good boy? Is it you? Is it you?"
Definitely better than my old Battlesystem gnolls.

Called it.. I figured it was just a matter of someone picking some iffy components off of a sprue with lots to choose from. Looking much better

On the positive side, the new Frostgrave Gnoll post doesn't look like a Skaven by another name.

On the negative side, the pose / arms look wooden. There's no sense of naturalistic animation, tension, waiting to pounce, preparing to strike, etc. I think this is what the cover art conveys well that the models have really been lacking so far.

For better posing, see the Otherworld image above, which has it in spades. Yes, it's a monopose figure, which is an advantage. But good multi-part kits allow for figures that look like they're doing something purposeful, even if that's just waiting for the right moment to attack.

And that's why GW (and others) have moved away from cool box art to adequately painted pictures of minis (or prototypes)

cool pictures are prone to causing disappointment when we look at the actual minis

They will make great filler for my mixed beast here army in KOW. I just picked up a bunch of clearance Almemy figures for $1 each, which will fill up some units. If I add in my GW beastmen and these gnolls then the army will look very diverse, even if multiples of same poses are in a unit.

Alkemy minis just FYI, they seem to be back in business, but 3-4 owner now.

Compared to these bad boys, the Frostgrave ones look magnificent


I actually have a ton of the D&D Miniatures Games ones, in various sculpts, that look pretty cool, but were suffering from a steady scale creep.

"Yeah, I know your head is only up to his belly button, but he's still on a medium base, so he's not a giant"

 Vermonter wrote:


On the negative side, the pose / arms look wooden. There's no sense of naturalistic animation, tension, waiting to pounce, preparing to strike, etc. I think this is what the cover art conveys well that the models have really been lacking so far.

That's true of the cultists and...other kit (?) as well IMO. Maybe just less obviously an issue because they're human.

Looks solid, wondering if we'll see any not Grill heads on the sprues for an alternate look?

 judgedoug wrote:
The Otherworld Miniatures gnolls are my favorite gnolls on the market:

Problem with that gnoll (as cool as it looks overall) for me is that he lacks dogleg hind quarters.

Valerie,

JohnS

Body and legs look fine. Head looks goofy. Real hyena says not impressed:

 cygnnus wrote:

Problem with that gnoll (as cool as it looks overall) for me is that he lacks dogleg hind quarters.

The problem with that Gnoll is it's 2 for £11.00, while the Frostgrave ones will be 20 for £20.00

 adamsouza wrote:

 cygnnus wrote:

Problem with that gnoll (as cool as it looks overall) for me is that he lacks dogleg hind quarters.

The problem with that Gnoll is it's 2 for £11.00, while the Frostgrave ones will be 20 for £20.00

to be fair that's the champion who I believe is 1 for £8.00!

 adamsouza wrote:

 cygnnus wrote:

Problem with that gnoll (as cool as it looks overall) for me is that he lacks dogleg hind quarters.

The problem with that Gnoll is it's 2 for £11.00, while the Frostgrave ones will be 20 for £20.00

Yeah, to be completely honest, I get the appeal of Otherworld's stuff, it just really isn't my thing either especially for their bonkers pricing.

Otherworld's market is primarily Old School RPG players, maybe?

And they do a FANTASTIC job in that respect.

On topic here....er, yeah?